18:53:19 <dangergrrl> so, is the oi-dev ml just really quiet?
18:55:12 <dangergrrl> I just added myself i think again, searched my email for the confirmation and it looks like i was already subscribed maybe and it's just low traffic, like 10 threads in the past couple of years
19:02:24 <sommerfeld> it's pretty quiet.   there's much more chatter on the github pull requests.
19:02:47 <dangergrrl> ok
19:03:03 <dangergrrl> is that the best place to discuss something largeish?
19:04:01 <sommerfeld> (subscribe to notifications for changes to openindiana/oi-userland on github and you'll see lots of traffic)
19:05:02 <sommerfeld> is it integration of a bunch of related packages or something else?
19:05:12 <dangergrrl> I've been talking to dragonfly bsd people and they re-ported the DRI/DRM layer from linux much more recently that OI has (2008 or 2013) and it looks like a worthwhile thing to do but iut also looks like a large project
19:05:36 <dangergrrl> only 2 packages probably but it looks like a big job
19:06:32 <sommerfeld> I think the oi version of that is https://github.com/OpenIndiana/gfx-drm but may be mistaken (haven't touched that code at all..)
19:07:35 <dangergrrl> I found a patch contemporary with our code that will add support for my oi laptop (intel haswell cpu/gpu) that looks like i could integrate pretty easily
19:08:00 <sommerfeld> If you have the energy to drive it, give it a go (either the small patch or the resynch)
19:08:05 <dangergrrl> but there's a lot of support we're probably missing if our code is forked over 10 years oag
19:08:11 <dangergrrl> ago
21:04:39 <alanc> the challenge with trying to keep up with DRI/DRM is that you have to keep adding new interfaces to your kernel to do things that were added in the Linux kernel for the DRI framework and DRM modules
21:05:15 <alanc> one of the people porting to BSD described it as "more a matter of porting your kernel to DRI, than DRI to your kernel"
21:19:12 <dangergrrl> aha
21:19:56 <dangergrrl> well, I'm working with draginfly bsd people too and they have offered some advice in this area (dri/drm code)
21:20:16 <dangergrrl> Dragonfly BSD even
21:21:39 <dangergrrl> I once rewrote much of a svr4 kernel to incorporate missimg interfaces for a mpspec module, that project failed but i learned a lot
21:22:17 <dangergrrl> so, I know someone who has in fact done just this reasonably recently
21:57:16 <dangergrrl> there was an odd thing, I know I installed build-essential on oi yet I still had to manually install gcc-10 to build
22:20:09 <tsoome> dangergrrl did you do 'pkg update; reboot'  first?
22:21:14 <dangergrrl> pretty sure, i can't really find out now afaik
22:21:43 <dangergrrl> it was pretty obvious from the errors what was missing at least
22:22:11 <dangergrrl> it wasn't something that would stop anyone with much experience i would think
22:22:26 <dangergrrl> I would have to try a fresh install to be sure