19:12:19 should xsvc package be renamed pkg:/driver/x11/xsvc -> pkg:/driver/xsvc - its not really depending on X11 (Xsun?), the gate consumers are acpidump and libsmbios - neither is depending on X11 but acpidump has hard dependency on /dev/xsvc, while smbios can live with only /dev/smbios present... 19:22:36 tsoome_: other consumers should be fixed to not suck 19:22:56 consuming xsvc is never a good idea 19:24:13 smbios needs to only use /dev/smbios, acpi needs to do the equivalent, but there's no such device yet 19:25:04 thats is valid point ofc. 19:25:21 I wouldn't rename the package, 'cos X is what was meant to use it 19:25:43 everyone else is just cheating because they want to broddle around in real memory and don't want to do the extra work 19:25:56 alanc might have things to add 19:27:21 so the real bugs are missing /dev/acpi and libsmbios is still looking for /dev/xsvc:) 19:27:28 xsvc was supposed to go away when we got kernel drivers implemented for all the video cards we supported in Xorg, but well, that never got implemented 19:28:45 we did get libpciaccess & scanpci to use PCI interfaces instead of just reading PCI bus registers directly via xsvc 20:21:38 my impression was using it for acpi and smbios was a bit of a hack... 20:21:48 'hey this'll work, let's use it for now' 20:21:59 but wasn't really meant for either 20:23:39 jbk: more than "a bit" 20:29:14 and I used it just yesterday to get a hash of the bootrom in a guest VM.. <> 20:48:56 i didn't want to be too harsh :) 20:52:30 andyf: not denying being able to do that has its uses, but it's a terrifying thing to be able to do 20:53:45 (I still think sun should probably not have delivered/relied on pcitool interfaces so much either) 20:58:42 I then decided just to get the bootrom to populate SMBIOS https://paste.omnios.org/?ab3605e4b8729cd3#FJC3tHYqJX2jVhFyeTMGLmBiTz35MSrckad1Q1PBJf68 20:58:48 Definitely cleaner 21:05:44 at some point, I need to see if I can setup a bhyve VM (under smartos) for variable storage and maybe run the UEFI shell to be able to test some stuff... 21:34:27 [illumos-gate] 18149 ld(1) should support -zsysroot -- Richard Lowe 21:34:27 [illumos-gate] 18247 elf-test TLS tests should work with newer gas -- Richard Lowe 22:20:03 heh.. I feel like ::dladm could possibly be more useful :)