15:15:20 <danmcd> Is Gernot around?
20:14:23 <richlowe> for my own information, since it got brought up and I realized I don't think I have ever seen one.  Does someone have an x86 running that uses uppc?
20:14:31 <richlowe> it would presumably be a small, uni-processor, vm?
20:24:20 <richlowe> jclulow: I feel like I might be a crazy person getting thwarted by network bullshit, but: if I update a bug in redmine and click 'preview' the anim girl attempts to vet me again in an iframe(?), and everything goes really wrong
20:25:04 <richlowe> including losing my fucking comment even now
20:25:25 <richlowe> lesson of the day, _never_ leave a tab open long enough the anime girl forgets you
20:31:58 <MelanieUrsidino> she's a jackal I believe
20:32:21 <jbk> heh.. so this is fun
20:32:41 <jbk> whatever cursed version of qemu scalable systems seems to be using also doesn't follow the virtio spec
20:33:14 <jbk> in that their virtio devices are both transitional, and have a revision id of 1
20:33:30 <jbk> (this is the same one that has the broken sata emulation)
20:33:41 <jbk> but according to teh qemu folks is an old version'
20:38:37 <jbk> i'm wondering if maybe we should add an escape hatch to relax the strictness here: https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/uts/common/io/virtio/virtio_main.c#L279-L290
20:38:52 <jbk> for anyone unfortunate to be using a broken hypervisor
20:39:41 <richlowe> jbk: qemu is GPL, you should email these people and ask for their broken source
20:39:54 <richlowe> rather than figuring out by feel
20:40:35 <jbk> the issue is apparently the qemu version is old(er) and is being shipped as scalable system's hypervisor
20:40:41 <jbk> (which also gives you few options)
20:41:14 <richlowe> it doesn't get them out of their obligation to give you the source
20:41:14 <jbk> i mean, we'll probably just remove the check internally because we have customers migrating to it (from vmware)
20:50:42 <Dixie_F> I really enjoy your guys discussions.  I just wish I understood more than 20% of it.
20:51:09 <Dixie_F> That's 20% after googling (usually).
21:31:24 <nomad> Perhaps they would consider alternative hypervisors? I am quite happy with our migration from VMware to XCP-ng.
21:31:30 * nomad goes back to the shadows from whence he came.
22:03:58 <andyf> jbk I think it would be very reasonable to add an escape hatch for that being fatal.