00:20:39 jbk: Right, I'm saying you could make a service that could do all kinds of diagnostics things like that if you were easily able to subscribe to SMF state changes 00:21:49 We have some nascent things in the Oxide control plane software that poke at bits of system state for collecting evidence about potential issues 00:22:19 I think generally it's going to be pretty hard to make a generic service that does what everyone wants, as a lot of it is going to come down to making policy decisions 00:22:43 But we could much more easily provide really good first class interfaces that people could consume in their appliance- or site-specific tools 01:03:26 yeah, just thinking out loud (online?) 01:09:25 We all do it once or twice. 14:17:05 Hey @jbk ==> https://www.illumos.org/issues/17863 14:17:06 → BUG 17863: libsff_8472 test needs update to libsff_8472.out post-17827 (New) 14:17:19 I think you forgot to update the libsff_8472 expected-output. 14:27:26 hrm.. yeah.. let me see if I can get a fix up this afternoon.. meetings this morning 17:35:27 danmcd: I'm assuming I can use 17863? I can put it up on gerrit, but will need to go back over everything after lunch 17:35:55 Yeah, you should be good to use it jbk. 17:36:02 Dan didn't assign himself. 17:38:12 ok.. i'll take it then 17:40:36 17863 the binary is quite self-contained, and the diff pipeline I put up there is the perfect way to confirm/deny it. 17:40:51 SHould be just mods to the .out file. 17:44:34 i've put up a fix on gerrit, it looks reasonable, but I want to sit down after lunch just to go over the changes with the changes in the code to be sure before I call it good.. 17:46:07 I'll hopefully stop getting bombarded with multiple things all at once so I can focus :) *fingers crossed* 17:54:23 Heh heh heh. I'm supplying you with a full release-week test run (SmartOS gcc14 in this case) where I can compare it against its prior release. 18:02:25 [illumos-gate] 17847 zfs: add ability to set user properties while changing encryption key -- Matthew Ahrens 18:24:20 doh! SFF_8636_ENHANCED_OPTIONS_MASK should be 0x1f not 0x1e.. 18:25:29 i guess that'll need a follow up change (but thankfully a small one) 18:31:10 @jbk to your 17863 changes? 18:31:36 yeah.. 19:02:18 danmcd: mind if I squash that fix so it's one review (w/ the update fixes)? 19:02:35 that way it can be merged together 19:07:49 Does the second one have major impact? I didn't notice any in my original runs, just the libsff ones. 19:08:39 Ahhh I see. Yeah, squish 'em. 19:09:28 not really, it just fixes thigns up 19:09:30 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) 20:53:57 Would it be a bad idea to install OmniOS and then put a desktop environment on that? 21:04:02 i don't know if it'd be a bad idea, but yuo might have to do more work since it's not really geared towards that... 21:05:06 I'm just not really sure I want to try OpenIndiana instead. 21:05:39 The comparison table on illumos.org says it approximately compares to Ubuntu. 21:05:47 I'm deliberately not using Ubuntu. 21:12:43 msiism: well, the ammount of work to add a desktop to omnios is .... huge. this is exactly what openindiana does for you. I would not compare ubuntu with openindiana. 21:13:31 Okay. :) 21:13:45 just building all the desktop bits is a lot of annoying work, usually 21:14:04 I think I've done it two or three times, ever, and when it was easier. 21:14:17 I see. 21:58:31 anubis on code.illumos.org is not letting me past the "making sure you're not a bot" page. 21:58:35 anyone else seeing this? 22:00:00 Is it asking you to activate Javascript? 22:01:34 sommerfeld: it is working harder now, because the bots got around it and ruined everything 22:01:45 but you should get past it if you're human 22:01:58 jclulow: do we have logs? 22:02:25 the only change I saw was that 1) the service was up again, and 2) I actually had to be vetted by anubis now 22:02:31 so I got past it by deleting illumos.org cookies. 22:02:39 weird 22:02:51 jclulow: seems definitely something you'd want to know 22:03:44 perhaps I had something stale in cookies that confused things and sent it in a redirect-to-self loop. 22:04:25 and after signing in again it's still working so I'm unblocked. 23:49:16 richlowe: We do have logs, and they're entirely useless 23:49:41 But yeah, there is clearly something happening with the cookies. I am going to look at it again this afternoon 23:49:47 If you clear the cookies, for now, that seems to get past it. 23:49:54 As ever: we apologise for the inconvenience.