11:31:26 What term could describe both illumOS and BSD's, aside from Unix? As Solaris evolved from BSD, SunOS was a BSD. 11:44:28 Solaris was a fork of SVR4 with some BSD importations. 11:48:36 Unixia? Posixia? 12:10:51 Posix is a term made by Stallman 13:03:52 I know, but that doesn't make the term useless. 13:04:12 The traditional plural is /unices/ I think. 13:04:29 But if you need something more specific, you're probably on your own. 13:43:29 Unix is trademarked 13:43:42 It would have to be 13:43:54 depends by who, if it's a nonprofit for open source 13:44:59 by the Open Group, they're open source 13:45:15 I believe they do Motif 13:50:22 it's TOG, they're def not open source 16:26:08 The Open Group is "open" as in "open standards", not "open source" - it was named years before the "open source" name was created 16:37:11 Motif on the other hand is now open source: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ 16:58:19 even CDE is now that no one was still paying for it 19:54:02 Hi