02:22:04 <jbk> i have a wrapper script that uses pushover to notify my phone/watch when it's done
07:11:43 <szilard> I am planing a family house renovation, 4 floors including cellar. I plan to run ethernet to each floor from the cellar, where the main router supposed to be. Connection over 1000 mb/s is common around here. I am wondering if i should go with cat8 or stick with cat6. Any hints?
07:26:40 <tsoome_> cat6 max is 55meters (180ft) with 10BaseT, cat7 up to 100meters and cat8 30 meters. cat8 is shielded, so it is more expensive and harder to install.
07:28:26 <tsoome_> for example, https://www.msl-tw.com/news_detail/cat6-vs-cat8.htm for quick feature summary 
07:36:46 <szilard> Longest run would be less than 20 m. I plan to run a cable channel vertically trough all the floors. Between the main router and the router+AP combo on each floor i would then use cat6. The devices itself can use cat5 or so.
07:49:30 <tsoome_> I used cat6 myself, segment lengths were ok for this setup, each room got at least 2 (some got more) connections on wall and this strategy turned out to be quite well working. With decent monitor you can have 2.5G wired connection if you want laptop to be connected with external monitor via single cable for power+video+ethernet;) and the stationary devices connected via cable is good to reduce wifi noise.
08:25:16 <szilard> tsoome_ : thx for the hin5s. Next question: i'd like to segmen5 my network using vlans inside illumos and on the physical network level. Does vlans will just work ootb? So will my physical openbsd router know ok this zne communicates via vlanX i should do this and that?
08:26:36 <szilard> I thi k i should draw a network schematic first :s
08:38:53 <otis> yes, vlans (dot1q) works ootb
16:52:47 <sommerfeld> szilard: Did something like that about five years ago.   Pull twice as much cable as you think you need.   It's easy to do when the walls are open.  10g over cat6 at residential scale works great.  Even have 10gbaseT running over a (short) cat5 in one room.
16:54:24 <sommerfeld> lots of vlans.  main service just upgraded to 10gig fiber, seeing ~7gig throughput on speed tests to mac mini desktops.
16:58:54 <sommerfeld> biggest issues right now: (a) 10g switch has some issues with its sfp+-connected peers -- links sometimes don't come back up when the peer reboots.  (b) router and ONT don't get along with a direct connection so I have to bounce it through an isolated vlan on the aforementioned switch.
17:04:28 <sommerfeld> pulled all drops to a patch panel in the basement, and currently have two switches, router, and home server racked there.  pulled a few ceiling drops for wifi access points on the upper floors.
17:12:51 <tsoome_> isolated vlan for router could be really handy if you need to copy packets for inspection:)
17:18:48 <sommerfeld> (given differences in euro vs. US construction practices, some of this advice may not be applicable)
17:25:34 <sommerfeld> Got one of the cable testers that comes with multiple remotes so I could test more than one cable per trip up/down stairs.