14:05:16 * arekinath stare vacantly at the metux email 14:05:31 should have unsubscribed from -discuss after all 14:14:19 * nrubsig wonders WTF is wrong with RedHat staff this year - they rm -Rf'ed lots people from opensource projects this year, just unclear WHY 14:29:20 i mean, it's IBM now... I'm pretty sure layoffs is somehow their business model... 14:44:08 I was JUST about to ask about that... 14:44:36 I wonder too if long-time X person @alanc has Opinions (though he may be handcuffed himself in this case?). 14:45:08 And JBK is right about IBM's current business model. 14:58:05 danmcd: That was not my point. I'm not talking about layoffs, I am talking abut RH deleting many active contributor accounts in opensource projects this year, and the reason is unclear. People scream "it's revenge etc" 14:58:57 Ahh. I wonder if IBM's taking a page from the Lawnmower handbook? Seriously, it's probably just about (short-term thinking about?) money. 15:01:57 danmcd: looks more like "getting rid of disputes and opposing opinions" ... this is almost as bad as the UBOOT boot loader people 15:02:44 Interesting... especially these days, I might not even need to open the tinfoil-hat collection to believe that. 15:07:06 danmcd: this is not about tinfoils, just an observation that they do that, and people are upset. WHY RH is doing that, I have no clue yet. 15:41:01 what is wrong with the uboot people? 16:18:37 ... lawnmower? is that about oracle? :o 16:18:47 or some other company 16:23:58 the global conspiracy preventing Xorg development is mainly zero people being interested in doing it any more, with nearly everyone who had been heavily involved either finding Wayland a better solution or losing interest in working on the project 16:24:24 btw, is it better actually? 16:25:23 and enrico was definitely on a "the existing code all sucks, I have to break everything in order to do what I want" run of commits 16:26:39 but he came from the Linux kernel space, where drivers are all part of the kernel tree, and there is no such thing as stable driver ABI, and it's okay to just make incompatible change whenever you want, which is not the way Xorg had been designed/developed/released for the past 20 years 16:27:48 though I don't keep up with linux kernel stuff that much, so don't know how involved he still was there after https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccine_smackdown/ 16:29:05 .oO 18:15:08 * danmcd understands now... 18:19:30 the code itself is conspiring /half-sarcastic 18:53:53 it's very violent with all of the talk of executing and killing processes... obviously it's out to get us :P 18:58:52 jbk: sometimes we reap our children! 18:59:16 other times just hang them up 19:00:32 if you don't wait to hear if your children have died, they can become zombies 21:02:19 one of the many ways unix is different from real life