00:24:41 <danmcd> OUCH.
00:25:21 <danmcd> My last two years in SV I lived in Santa Clara, which has its own independent municipal electric utility.  Did not miss PG&E one iota.
05:35:07 <unixery> What will be missing if I use sharemgr for SMB shares instead of dataset shares? I guess the Windows "shadow copies" that automatically are generated from ZFS snapshots? Anything else?
15:33:10 <sjorge> andyf our ppt driver does not allow for ReBAR under bhyve right?
17:26:47 <jbk> unixery: i think that'd probably be it.. but can't say 100% for sure
20:11:03 <unixery> What about NFSv4 ACL?
20:11:13 <unixery> I probably just give it a try...
20:23:36 <richlowe> I'm not sure you'd miss anything, it would seem sloppy if you did, to me
20:23:45 <richlowe> gwr would know for sure, possibly tsoome and jbk too
20:24:28 <jbk> they should work fine
20:24:52 <tsoome> sharemgr by itself is just management tool, the NFSv4 ACL feature depends on the actual file system really.
20:24:53 <jbk> with SMB or NFSv4 (NFSv4 you should make sure you NFSv4 domains match)
20:25:24 <jbk> yeah.. under the covers when you 'zfs set sharesmb=xxxx' it's more or less invoking the same library calls
20:26:06 <jbk> IIRC there's a little special bit with putting the zfs managed stuff in its own group or something like that I'd have to re-look at to remember the specifics
21:06:02 <jbk> i'm wonder if anyone would object to removing the sun-specific SMART DATA VPC page for SATA disks... it was never documented, and you can get the exact same info via a ATA PASSTHROUGH command (this is what smartctl does)
21:06:18 <jbk> it was implemented in a rather annoying way
21:06:42 <jbk> in that every other VPC page has a nice fixed-sized header w/ the page code, length, etc.
21:06:46 <jbk> except this one
21:07:14 <sommerfeld> if there are no conceivable consumers for it I'd say torch it.
21:07:15 <jbk> if anything ever used it, it had to be some sort of internal Sun tool that never saw the light of day outside of sun
21:09:58 <richlowe> remember there was also SUNWhd for thumper
21:10:03 <richlowe> as far as weird tools that look at sata
21:13:27 <jbk> which i'm guessing is all closed source?
21:15:32 <richlowe> no idea, honestly.  probably?  I'm not even sure where to find it.
21:15:59 <richlowe> it was just a sun-specific sata thing, so I mentioned it