01:23:08 hello! i am looking to try out illumos on desktop and am currently looking for a good distribution. which one would you guys recommend? i've heard of openindiana and it seems to be pretty good but i can't get it to boot off of usb and i've heard the ips packaging format is hell 01:23:32 i am familiar with linux and have dabbled in freebsd also 01:30:32 anyone here? 01:37:50 tap tap ... is this thing on yet? 01:38:17 kantraa, not sure how much of what I typed got out. 01:38:33 huh? 01:38:43 all i see is "tap tap ... is this thing on yet?" 01:38:50 did you send something else? 01:38:54 I updated my firewall and saw your question at the same time. 01:39:14 o 01:39:18 anyway, what I was trying to say was there are multiple distros, each one emphasizes different things. 01:39:44 OmniOS, for example, tends to focus on zones and bhyve and such. 01:39:53 but you can use any of them for 'general purpose' things. 01:40:14 $job[1] uses OmniOS for NFS & SMB/CIFS file services backed by ZFS. 01:40:20 how hard is it to install and set up X on Tribblix? 01:40:24 (We completely ignore the zones stuff.) 01:41:06 that would be a good question for ptrbble but, like most people here, he's probably off enjoying his Friday evening/Saturday. 01:41:16 This isn't a great time to expect people to be hanging out here :) 01:41:25 fair 01:41:29 I'm only here because I noticed there was activity in the channel while I was updating my firewall. 01:41:39 and I'm about to step away now that it is back online. 01:41:43 what's the best time to be here? 01:42:15 work days in Europe/US seem to have the most coverage but it's hard to say specifically. 01:42:20 this is a very global channel. 01:42:43 thanks! 01:42:53 its like 4am for me because ive been trying to boot openindiana since 2am lol 01:43:02 i think 1am actually 01:43:07 * nomad nods 01:43:21 Looks like I need to restart my IRC proxy so I'm going to vanish again, brb. 01:44:34 and now that I'm back.. I'm going back to not-computering for the evening. 01:44:42 have a nice day! 01:44:45 im going to bed 01:44:47 Hope to see you here Monday. :) 01:44:49 sleep well. 01:44:50 * nomad & 09:27:59 wow i did not realisze illumos had such a huge irc group of people 09:30:37 clos, never moved away :P once you know it.. (see illumos distros and a few cloud platforms.. ) 09:30:45 * nikolam going away atm 12:28:17 if i installed tribblix would i be able to run pre-11 solaris packages on it? 12:28:27 I’m happy illumos comunity didnt move to discord 😅 12:28:49 IRC has it’s issues but it works well for what it is 12:29:33 discord is way easier to use but also has a slew of other problems 12:31:06 if i installed tribblix would i be able to run pre-11 solaris packages on it? i honestly just wanna run IE for UNIX 13:27:59 kantraa: while backwards compat is usually pretty good I'm not sure it goes that far back. Probably best to just try and see how it goes 18:27:44 how do I use the classic vi/ex in the repo here - https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/tree/master/usr/src/cmd/vi 18:42:51 did somebody know if svccfg is able to addpg for dependent (not dependency) to a smf service? If I use addpg dependent is creats a not a entry to the service, which than isn't working as expected :) 18:43:40 makr: Goes in a combo of /usr/xpg4/bin/ and /usr/has/bin/ 18:53:55 thanks rmustacc 19:04:10 kantraa: you should be able to run applications from Solaris 10 or earlier without too many problems. 19:04:51 Actually, going further back can be easier in terms of compatibility, simply because in earlier releases there was less to be compatible with 19:06:14 Although for things like old web browsers, finding a website that's compatible with a really old browser is likely to be a bit of a problem 19:09:52 drscream: you might be able to create a profile that you can apply to create the relationship 19:11:58 I ran a 2010 copy of Opera recently and, as you might expect, it couldn't connect to most sites using https 19:12:27 Although it didn't do that bad a job rendering the few it could reach 19:12:43 Wasn't IE for Solaris only available for SPARC, though? 19:12:57 that's my recollection 19:13:46 IIRC, it would only use a single core as well because solaris couldn't 'properly' do SMP (according to MS).. or something silly like that 19:16:10 ELF 32-bit MSB executable SPARC Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped 19:16:39 That's the installer, at any rate. 20:17:58 [illumos-gate] 14736 zfs: Improve sorted scan memory accounting -- Alexander Motin 20:19:12 jbk: so you're idea would be to create a profile which reflect the dependent based on the services which need to be started? so list both services in the profile? 20:30:48 drscream: Yes you can basically list any service in the profile and just make targetted adjustments 20:57:19 jclulow have you seen (on vbox) Jul 6 16:33:51 oi-server usba: [ID 691482 kern.warning] WARNING: /pci@0,0/pci8086,1e31@c (xhci0): Connecting device on port 1 failed 20:57:39 I have not! I try to avoid virtualbox, it's kind of a mess 20:57:47 :) 21:01:14 jclulow / jbk that works, thanks a lot :) 21:01:27 awesome!