14:36:39 I think it is really the shame that in situation of multiple gateway, illumos DHCp as a client takes both and then sometimes uses one gateway sometimes another. 14:37:24 It is usually first gateway is meant to be the default gateway and the other to be used only if the first one is not able to forward packets 15:11:18 it really depends on your network whether you want failover or ECMP (equal-cost multipathing) or something more complicated. The illumos kernel forwarding table does something ECMP-ish when there are multiple routes and I don't believe there's any notion of a standby route in the kernel forwarding table. 18:27:19 [illumos-gate] 16538 fifofs should track tv_nsec -- Robert Mustacchi 18:46:39 [illumos-gate] 16565 smbadm: diagnostic messages are missing newline -- Toomas Soome 19:18:36 [illumos-gate] 16564 mdb nv_resize() doesn't correctly handle UM_GC -- Robert Mustacchi 19:30:00 nice:) 20:00:11 also nice: power was just restored to my place :) 20:00:47 gz:) 20:00:55 been out since thursday night 20:01:08 ouch. winds? 20:01:11 yeah 20:01:23 yea, happens here a lot too 20:01:28 had some really bad storms with some extremely powerful winds that basically went right through the city 20:01:40 took down several of the big transmission lines 20:01:47 lots and lots and lots of downed trees 20:02:04 almost 200 km/h winds 20:02:15 if my conversion is correct (120 mph) 20:03:00 53m/s 20:03:09 almost 1 million people lost power 20:04:06 jbk: Houston area? 20:05:56 rather bad, yep. well, fun fact, 50-55 m/s is terminal speed for human flying on belly:) 20:13:14 sommerfeld: yes 20:13:50 i'm just south of i-10 in the 'inner loop' 20:14:07 the area just north of i-10 looks like it got hit the hardest 20:14:24 that and a far NW suburb (cypress) 21:00:33 when the derecho hit DC years ago, we just drove until power existed again and went "camping" 21:09:42 (though for future reference, if you're going to drive 3 hours from DC _north_ is the direction to do that, any other direction gets... local) 21:10:00 heard some banjos? :) 21:11:31 though north (unless you went the whole 5+ hours to Dallas) was probably the wrong move since just a few weeks before, the area north of houston had some pretty severe flooding and probably isn't entirely recovered yet from that 21:11:35 for here 21:11:42 so Austin or San Antonio 21:17:18 but i have an elderly cat, who doesn't like going in any vehicles, so i figured i'd try to avoid stressing her out if i could avoid going elsewhere 21:17:32 though with the temps this afternoon, i was to the point of leaving had power not come back on 21:20:45 I'm glad it did 23:01:55 nikolam: If you can find some description (say, in an RFC) of the intended behaviour when DHCP provides two default routers we can certainly look at fixing the behaviour somehow 23:02:00 oh, they're gone 23:03:28 Anyway the idea of a "warm spare" second gateway being provided through DHCP is something I've never heard of, and seems a bit silly. How do you know when the "primary" is down, without a routing or heartbeating protocol anyway 23:08:23 jclulow: would have to be a heuristic like failure to respond to arp 23:08:34 Yeah that seems pretty fraught 23:09:10 This is why people either do VRRP style network-side HA, or they just do BGP/BFD/whatever 23:10:13 Mind you if someone wants to add the ability to illumos to do neighbour liveness via ARP/NDP for next hops, knock yourselves out haha 23:13:46 having an option in /etc/default/dhcpagent to limit the number of default routes we're willing to install would deliver 90% of what was needed for 10% of the effort... 23:57:26 Yes indeed