00:02:14 Because of using Windows XP, I have collected a set of XP-compatible USB etcher tools: AnyBurn, DriveKey, IsoToUsb, RmPrepUsb, Rufus, WinSetupFromUSB, Easy USB Creator. 00:04:16 I need them to create a bootable MS-DOS stick for installing MS-DOS, Windown 3.11, 98SE, and XP onto a HP t5720 think client, with a boot menu by Grub4DOS. 00:04:31 * thin client :-) 12:08:06 if i set up a zfs mirror with 2 ssds... then add another vdev to the pool with 2 more ssds (mirrored). will the data balance? 12:08:20 or is that a situation where the data will stay camped out on the 2 disks unless it's copied back? 12:11:06 ah never mind. it seems like no 12:12:18 It won't be balanced immediately 12:33:01 yeah. i'll have to yank the 4 disks... well.. 3 actually. i had a 4TB ssd elsewhere that i'll use for it as well. no big deal. i was sort of planning on that regardless. 12:36:06 i guess that's a good thing considering i haven't been using that 4TB drive so it will be worn at a different interval as the rest... i need to cycle them out once a month or so just to avoid multiple drive wear. 12:36:30 if SSDs weren't so expensive now i'd probably have gotten more of them just to avoid having to do this. 13:00:53 I'm not sure I follow entirely 13:01:36 But anyway, adding new vdevs doesn't mean the data is immediately balanced; any newly written data should be, if both vdevs have free space, at least. Removing vdevs is non-trivial as zfs is a copy on write FS 13:04:58 ah. my point was that i was going to see about just making a mirrored vdev for a new pool then adding 2 more ssds later 13:05:20 but i'll just go ahead and wait until i can have all 4 disks in 13:12:06 Depending on what you want to do you might also want to have a look at zpool2 13:12:25 That one will be balanced even with two disks and once you add two more you'll have double redundancy 13:26:57 Macer: I was always known to have crazy amounts of SSDs over the last 10 years, but my inventory of spare SSDs will eventually run out over the next years... 13:27:55 There was a time where you could get smaller SSDs for insanely cheap, I still have some 16-64 ones somewhere... 13:29:12 Needless to say with todays SSD prices you better keep what you can. ;-) 14:54:55 Yup. 14:55:19 Wish I bought more when I had the chance. 14:55:49 But I was of the endless cheap ssd prices mentality. Then the AI bandwagon showed up. :( 14:56:13 My favorite story was Samsung not selling memory to Samsung. :) 14:57:54 That's the only cool thing about now. 14:57:58 there will come a time when the market gets flooded by used gear. Suspect it will have an impact on the market as well 15:03:09 you assume they're using commodityish gear. 15:03:32 I assume we need server gear 15:04:17 I guess that was the real misstake =) 15:07:27 their server gear is fairly proprietary 15:23:56 the GPUs aren't using commodity memory but they're usually hosted by rackmount kit with DDR5 RDIMMs