00:59:25 quickrr: as a wifi card? yes, for driver support? Afaik its LinuxKPI and it can be funny with certain wifi cards, I think someone a month or two ago had a similar issue. 00:59:45 Also I dont believe the drivers are bootstrapped, due to redistribution clauses 00:59:58 in other words, you will need to install via ethernet, and then you can install the right kmod and it will *hopefully* work 01:15:56 polarian: thanks, i found a usb ethernet, and go it sorted now, at least amdgpu is working in gnome, i will soon i will try a speedtest to see how bad it can be for speed :) 01:16:27 quickrr: wifi speeds tend to be good, its usually the user experience of wifi which is the problem. 01:16:39 its being worked on 01:17:11 personally I append wpa_passphrase outputs to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and pkill -HUP wpa_supplicant to add a wifi network 01:17:17 its far from user friendly, but works :) 01:19:44 well didn say this, but i havent had ax yet, i just have a ac router 01:21:38 802.11ax isn't yet supported in the freebsd ieee80211 stack afaik 01:21:41 so it wouldn't matter anyways 01:22:16 yeah my bad 01:22:18 if you did want support for it you could checkout a project called wifibox: https://github.com/pgj/freebsd-wifibox 01:26:12 ah thanks, i will keep an eye 14:39:55 Hi.. does anyone know if OpenSSL 3.5.6 (in base) and www/nginx 1.30.4,3 on 15.1-RELEASE-p2 works with HTTP/3 and QUIC? I set up nginx to listen on quic with reuseport. openssl s_client can handshake using TLS with -quic and -alpn but goes no further.. can't send any traffic on udp/443. 15:51:52 Anyone happen to know what base package include ntpd/ntpdate/ntp-keygen/etc..? 15:52:16 Strangely enough, I have a FBSD 15.1 VM that doesn't have it and I can't figure out why. 15:52:35 pkg which /usr/sbin/ntpd gets me nothing. 15:58:46 ek: /usr/sbin/ntpd was installed by package FreeBSD-ntp-16.snap20260710113244 15:58:50 ek: FreeBSD-ntp-15.1p2 package on my machine has it 15:59:28 Thank you! 15:59:40 Out of curiosity, how did you get that information? 15:59:52 pkg which /usr/sbin/ntpd :) 16:00:03 Even of systems that do have it (via pkgbase), it says "/sbin/ntpd not found in database" 16:00:40 ek: my 15.1-p2 machine lists 318 packages that start with 'FreeBSD-' 16:02:17 Hrm. Mine only lists 282. 16:03:13 ek: ntpd --version returns nothing? 16:03:19 I suppose a "pkg search ntp" would probably turn it up. I'm just curious why it wasn't there to begin with. 16:03:27 skynight: ntpd doesn't exist on the system. 16:03:36 (yet) 16:44:32 Hi 16:44:33 I need some help 16:48:56 you know I installed Ubuntu 24 debootstrap and using some tricks got rid of most systemd errors, but pulseaudio after reconfigure works only inside chroot, outside it never.. So weird I set up server to shared socket (which made work in chroot), is pulseaudio needs systemd to work probably? 17:34:49 any idea? 17:36:20 not really a freebsd question, is it. but yes, in linux is probably needs systemd 17:36:38 why are undertaking this exercise? 17:37:33 it's a freebsd bec I am using linxulator, talking about pulseaudio works inside chroot without systemd but outside no 17:37:59 or I don't know if systemd is the problem really 17:37:59 mosaid: you might have better luck with Debian (or maybe, Devuan) in chroots for deb/ubuntu base like 17:38:15 sorry I can't use them need ubuntu 17:38:28 ek: pkg which only works on files that are on the host, iirc pkg recently got rwhich to query which packages from the remote repo provide a file, but no idea if that is in any released version 17:38:30 fixed most problems, but pulseaudio is the only one 17:38:36 mosaid: why? 17:39:28 I need some packages available for ubuntu only 17:39:48 I seem to have set up pipewire and pipewire-pulse and got that going (non-chroot) on debian13trixie 17:39:48 that doesn't answer the systemd portion of it 17:40:02 oh 17:40:16 I should say (non-chroot) but on sysvinit 17:40:29 enyc: if it a real fix, you will save my day 17:40:34 you might find you can use pipewire rather than pulseaudio but still compatible for your combination of linux chroot freebsd and so-on 17:40:47 I do not know, but just throw that in there. 17:41:21 mosaid: so you are trying to run pulseaudio inside the chroot, not just getting whatever you are running there to talk to the sound system on the host? 17:41:35 What are sound system options on freebsd anyway? 17:41:41 no, it works fine inside chroot but outside no 17:43:16 there is some way to run systemd on bsd using old wsl trick 17:43:30 but I want to know if systemd is the problem or not 17:46:30 no luck :( installed but I think it didn't start well /proc/ is not mounted. This is not a supported mode of operation. Please fix 17:46:31 your invocation environment to mount /proc/ and /sys/ properly. Proceeding anyway. 17:47:22 hm, something working in a chroot, but not outside of it reminds me of https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289739 17:47:49 heh, fixed this from a while 17:47:58 correct the symlink 17:49:17 enyc: "you might find you can use pipewire rather than pulseaudio" how? 17:50:18 mosaid: for me, with only pipewire packages installed and working, pipewire-pulse installed [to provide compatibilty for applications that connect to pulseaudio] 17:50:29 I do not know about chroot and freebsd complications 17:50:46 I think this was my old setup before upgrade 17:51:18 maybe pulseaudio needs systemd to start it's services outside chroot 17:51:41 I see pipewire supports all sorts of connection options, network based, allsorts 17:52:03 mosaid: barring input from those who know more, I'd guess at try to set your host system up with pipewire only etc 17:52:24 yeah, but looks like it's service not starting well without chroot maybe 17:52:58 mosaid: you might want to try a OFTC pipewire channel or so 17:53:04 thisiis freebsd channel 17:53:52 so how could I connect them bsd's pipewire and linux one? 17:54:48 you might be able to e xport the PIPEWIRE_ environment 17:55:06 but something about this seems like... i donno, just choosing to do something the hard way 17:55:37 *only way, rather than going to 23 ubuntu with no lts 17:56:39 if there were a way to run newer glibc on ubuntu 22, I will revert back 17:57:17 mosaid: owouldn't reccemoned that tbh 17:57:45 mosaid: worth checking what your ubuntu only packages ACUTALYL depend upon, dothey work on debian 1 3 trixe and so-on. 18:07:27 what is this app that you're working around? 18:17:27 a seamonkey fork work on linux needs now newer glibc 18:18:14 enyc: will this break system? 18:23:30 mosaid: changing main libc gets lots of potential for issues 18:23:38 could you compile it as sa satic binary or osmething else? 18:24:20 just thinking if I could add newer glibc beside original one, and make binary call it 18:24:35 yes, all sorts of tricks with LD_LIBRARY_PATH and zillion solutions 18:24:58 but then the libraries linked to by that binary, and so-on, horribly mess 18:27:36 oh possible, yes imagined it but will be better than systemd hell.. look like I rushed to upgrade :( 18:29:08 mosaid: honestly, try a deb 13trixie choroot, that is beween ubuntu 24 and 26 and may well be compatible withy our binary/package/program, and if you really hate systemd you can use devuan variant where it has been all 'patched out' but that is OTT in most cases. .... 18:32:01 enyc: yeah compatible but some commercial packages available for ubuntu, makes installing easier 18:33:03 mosaid: I really have to question if you are better setting up a vibvirt machine or oall sort snof other solutions here 18:33:06 do not know 18:34:00 In any case, imho tihs is getting less freebsd related :O 18:36:06 Could always try bhyve 18:39:35 want run linux bin like bsd native, I don't think bhyve will dod it :( 18:44:37 So, you're doing a linux jail or what? I wasn't following the conversation. 19:23:01 no, bhyve will give you a whole linux desktop for you to do whatever 19:24:07 is it x, wayland, or tui? 19:59:20 Anyone here running MariaDB and have it listening on both v4 and v6, by chance? 20:06:10 rtprio: no, I want smth like linuxlator runs linux bin like native one 20:11:20 ek, I'm not. . . though I would think it should "just work." What's up? 20:25:53 CrtxReavr: I would think so, too. But, it seems no matter I change the "bind-address" setting to in the configuration, it just doesn't adhere. 20:26:18 Using "--bind-address=blah" in the "mysql_args" of /etc/rc.conf works fine, though. 20:27:22 I've tried many different variations for the bind-address setting in the config. But, no matter what, it's always listening on "tcp4 *:3306". 21:17:28 Hi.. does anyone know if OpenSSL 3.5.6 (in base) and www/nginx 1.30.4,3 on 15.1-RELEASE-p2 works with HTTP/3 and QUIC? I set up nginx to listen on quic with reuseport. openssl s_client can handshake using TLS with -quic and -alpn but goes no further.. can't send any traffic on udp/443. 21:19:25 pertho: openssl 3.0+ www/nginx work fine with quic, sans 0rtt 21:19:39 im sure 3.5 should also work, also gaining you 0rtt support 21:45:42 ek, so you're good with the rc.conf syntax? 22:43:18 CrtxReavr: I mean, it works. But, ideally I'd like to use the recommended method of just editing the config file. 22:43:31 I'm just trying to find someone else who can verify before I submit a PR. 22:43:45 Or, if I'm maybe doing something wrong? 22:46:11 pastebin the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mariadb or whatever it's called.