00:00:08 <satanist> is this set in the router advertisement? doesn't sound like it's going to work
00:00:34 <mewt> that's what the VPS provider says to do, but it may be shorthand for something else
00:01:07 <mewt> I can see a link-local IP if I ping link-local broadcast. I've never really seen it use *anything* beyond a link-local IP so far
00:01:57 <satanist> ::1 is the locahost address so you would send to lo
00:02:21 <mewt> ...exciting, why didn't I remember that
00:03:28 <satanist> you could try to manual set the default gateway to the link-local address from which the router advertisements are send
00:03:43 <mewt> I have once, seemingly to no avail...
00:04:03 <mewt> I'll try it again I suppose, moment
00:04:52 <satanist> don't forget to include the %interfacename for the route
00:09:03 <mewt> https://bpa.st/Z3OQ
00:09:23 <mewt> This is what happens in tcpdump if I restart rtsold
00:09:53 <mewt> ping6 on anything just gives "ping6: UDP connect: No route to host"
00:11:13 <satanist> about your config, have you actually "accept rtadv" in rc.conf or "accept_rtadv" and it was a paste error?
00:11:27 <mewt> (I did add the interface name)
00:11:32 <mewt> accept_rtadv
00:12:20 <mewt> just checked
00:12:44 <mewt> I guess I can scrub out the identifying stuff and just paste my whole rc.conf, if you like
00:13:39 <mewt> https://bpa.st/FVEQ
00:13:40 <satanist> sorry I don't have time anymore, need to go to sleep
00:14:06 <mewt> ok, that's fine
00:14:17 <mewt> maybe it can be useful to someone else
00:20:43 <polarian> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/freebsd-just-removed-every-single-line-of-share-7483715495494488064-2V3c/ fucking linux wankers
00:21:01 <polarian> dont get me wrong I support its foss movement, but their linux way of looking at the world has just flung mud accidentally at FreeBSD
00:21:51 <polarian> I am sure people here know that the issue with GPL is not because FreeBSD want to appease big corporations and feed the latest big corpa tech solution, its down to the fact GPL has "firendly fire" so many open source projects get tramped in the GPL movement, not just that, but the GPL is legally ambiguous and difficult to enforce (800 lines of FSF ramble)
00:23:19 <mewt> doesn't seem like SLAAC is working at all
00:23:25 <polarian> To be honest I dont blame its foss, or most the Linux users spreading this narrative. I blame the FSF. The FSF has campaigned for decades how the GPL protects consumers, and the only people who would hate the GPL are evil corporations or people who want to violate user freedom. The idea that GPL == freedom has been permanently engraved into many FOSS developers brains, and the idea of freedom
00:23:27 <polarian> without GPL is just incomprehendable to many Linux users.
00:23:49 <polarian> Sorry for the rant, it makes me so mad when people without knowing the history act like GPL eradication was a matter of appeasing companies.
00:24:03 <polarian> mewt: show me your rc.conf?
00:24:20 <mewt> https://bpa.st/FVEQ
00:24:25 <mewt> has a couple things anonymized
00:24:29 <mewt> but that's it
00:25:05 <mewt> tcpdump output, also anonymized https://bpa.st/Z3OQ
00:25:18 <mewt> that's from restarting netif service
00:25:31 <mewt> I only have a link-local IP still
00:26:29 <wavefunction> Also, no one *wants* to challenge/enforce the GPL because, whether it gets enforced or not will be an absolute *sea change* event
00:27:24 <wavefunction> Kinda like how Google/Oracle API situation happened -- once courts ruled API implementation absolutely _does not count_ as infringement, bam, it's "settled law"
00:28:07 <polarian> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7483715498531131392/
00:28:09 <polarian> fucking c*nt
00:28:24 <polarian> I swear if I don't close linkedin right now I will make myself unemployable for the rest of my life!
00:29:31 <polarian> And we wonder why people dont adopt BSD when you have senior sysadmins spreading the narrative that FreeBSD is a "corporate slave OS"
00:29:56 <mewt> that does seem extremely...sensationalized
00:30:14 <oxyhyxo> it protects the time they invested in learning linuxisms
00:30:27 <oxyhyxo> and also preempts having to learn anything new
00:30:28 <polarian> mewt: whats with dhcpc6?
00:30:32 <polarian> its one or the other...
00:30:38 <mewt> one or the other, huh?
00:30:39 <polarian> well technically not
00:30:42 <polarian> sorry ignore that
00:30:59 <polarian> im half asleep you can use dhcpv6 as well
00:31:05 <polarian> also why the c?
00:31:07 <polarian> is that a typo?
00:31:18 <polarian> anyways for SLAAC you dont use DHCPv6 at all
00:31:32 <polarian> mewt: can you verify that you have SLAAC support from the router
00:31:41 <polarian> the router must broadcast router advertisements
00:32:12 <mewt> The tcpdump log shows a router advertisement, I guess I need to check the content of that?
00:32:16 <mewt> one sec
00:32:50 <polarian> hmmm
00:32:54 <polarian> the tcpdump seems fine
00:33:17 <polarian> whats your ifconfig output?
00:33:29 <mewt> [let me quickly anonymize and paste that...]
00:33:47 <polarian> wavefunction: ugh copyright is a pain in the arse
00:34:47 <mewt> https://bpa.st/HAJA
00:34:50 <mewt> is this helpful?
00:35:20 <mewt> if that looks ok, maybe I'll poke the provider
00:36:46 <polarian> mewt: wait is this a server?
00:36:59 <mewt> yeah, it's a VPS
00:37:00 <polarian> if so most hosting providers I know of use DHCPv6-PD
00:37:07 <polarian> you sure they support SLAAC?
00:37:22 <polarian> SLAAC is often used on client networks, not server networks (although I dont see any reason it cant be used for servers too)
00:37:48 <mewt> let me double check
00:37:56 <polarian> some others dont even use any sort of automatic IPv4/IPv6 config and instead use cloud-init to inject static allocations
00:38:09 <polarian> but yeah I dont see anything wrong here, unless freebsd is bugged
00:38:40 <polarian> rtsold will send solicitation, and afaik it also listens for adv
00:38:49 <polarian> and the ifconfig for the interface looks fine
00:38:57 <polarian> if you want to see my IPv6 setup (working) its as simple as this:
00:39:29 <polarian> https://bpa.st/QYAQ
00:39:30 <mewt> yeah, they don't have much documentation on this, honestly. Would be happy to see yours
00:39:43 <polarian> (note lagg'ing wifi isn't supported, and causes issues, but thats how you do SLAAC)
00:39:54 <polarian> this is client side not server
00:40:04 <mewt> mk
00:40:05 <polarian> mewt: contact them, I would assume its DHCPv6-PD or its static allocated
01:04:17 <mewt> nope, another OS's guide for the VPS provider says SLAAC with no privacy addressing
01:04:21 <mewt> err
01:04:26 <mewt> VPS provider's guide for a nother OS
01:05:36 <mewt> another*
01:32:44 <polarian> mewt: not sure then, I just got back from a meetup so I am too tired to help out
01:32:44 <polarian> hopefully someone whos got more energy can help out
01:32:55 <mewt> I did find something interesting
01:33:16 <mewt> when I manually dump the router advertisement, and then configure that address in place of accept_rtadv
01:33:25 <mewt> somehow, that address gets assigned to lo0
01:34:20 <mewt> at least according to netstat
01:34:38 <polarian> linkedin has rate limited my posts, probably for the best, I kinda got a little heated and decided to reply to every post which discredited the achievement of FreeBSD becoming GPL-free
01:35:13 <polarian> is it going to change peoples opinions? no. Is it going to make me seem like a arsehole? yes. Why did I do it? Idk... I love BSD and people lying about it angered me. Did I waste my time and labour? definitely!
01:36:06 <bsdrobert> first mistake was having a linkedin
01:45:44 <polarian> bsdrobert: need work :(
01:45:54 <polarian> money doesn't grow on trees
01:46:02 <polarian> but making enemies with people is a bad way to find work too xDDDDDDD
01:56:12 <bsdrobert> lol
01:57:23 <wez> heh, I'll employ you polarian :P  If  I had any opened positions... and a business
01:58:12 <polarian> wez: if only it was that easy xD
01:58:36 <wez> :)
01:58:40 <polarian> no shortage of non-profit work to do ;)
01:59:04 <polarian> but you want food on the table? good luck! :p
01:59:32 <wez> non-profit sure makes a lot of profit for the people up top
02:00:07 <kevans> polarian: what do you consider your skill set?
02:04:33 <polarian> kevans: breaking freebsd docs :p Jokes aside, im a rather useless junior in a market with very few junior positions. System administration, network, security and software in that order, the last I barely touched in the past 5 years. However it was a fun realisation when I realised the days of junior sysadmin positions are long over... did some contracting (mainly did networking though, got a
02:04:35 <polarian> pfsense contract though which was a ton of fun!) and then back to being useless!
02:09:12 <polarian> I should break a few more ports while I am at it too!
02:12:15 <polarian> wez: hey still counts as experience! >:)
02:16:28 <Macer> i was watching earth final conflict.. and after aliens come to earth.. humanity was doing video calls using.. mci
02:19:00 <polarian> alright gn all!
02:19:35 <polarian> dont let rs232 bite!
02:41:59 <mewt> ok, I got it working
02:42:47 <mewt> It needs static config with my eui64 as the IP. Somehow setting the default gateway in rc.conf didn't work, but seems to be working now without changing anything, so maybe I simply hallucinated one reboot/restart of netif
02:44:05 <mewt> it first showed signs of life after setting the gateway directly with route. Still don't know why, but it's been good through multiple reboots now