00:18:58 <ant-x> In /etc/ssl/certs , I cannot create a new file with cat:
00:19:10 <ant-x> # cat self.crt self.key > self.pem
00:19:21 <ant-x> sh: cannot create self.pem: Permission denied
00:19:49 <ant-x> Even though I can open, edit, and save self.pem in a text editor, also as root. Why?
01:56:31 <rwp> ant-x, Works for me.  Is self.pem actually a symlink to some place that is truly not writable?
01:57:09 <ant-x> No, it is cat-related: I have done it by hand.
02:00:38 <ant-x> No symlinks.
02:01:17 <ant-x> As I said, I can create self.pem with ``vi self.pem`` or with ``touch self.pem'' (as root).
02:05:20 <rwp> csh has a shell flag that prevents it overwriting files with > redirection.  Is that set for you?
02:05:42 <ant-x> I use sh.
02:07:06 <ant-x> doas echo test > self.pem # fails, too.
02:07:15 <rwp> set -o | grep clobber
02:07:30 <ant-x> I am doing that under /etc/ssl/certs (perhaps it matters).
02:07:31 <rwp> doas will not have any effect on a > redirection.
02:07:40 <ant-x> Ooop!
02:07:56 <rwp> What does "set -o | grep clobber" show?
02:08:01 <ant-x> Unless I do something like eval?
02:08:46 <rwp> You said you were already root so there is no need for doas.
02:09:06 <ant-x> That explains it. This works: doas sh -c "echo test > self.pem"
02:09:17 <rwp> However if you want to use doas to elevate a non-root process then: doas sh -c "echo foo > foo.txt"
02:09:25 <rwp> Jinx!
02:09:39 <ant-x> I said that to simplify things. I use doas to assume root. Beg pardon!@
02:09:50 <ant-x> Yep. Thanks.
02:10:28 <ant-x> That'll teach me to report things literally as they are.
02:10:30 <rwp> I still think you must have the shell's noclobber option set.
02:11:34 <ant-x> No, I don't (just checked).  I have never heard of this options.
02:13:59 <ant-x> I have succeeded setting domain fronting with sslh+mtg+thttpd+stunnel , but I need assistance in testing whether all three points are satisfied: <https://github.com/9seconds/mtg/wiki/Choosing-a-Domain-and-Hosting#1-why-this-matters-in-30-seconds> .
02:14:27 <ant-x> OK, #2 can be excluded.
12:52:11 <polarian> does anyone have IPv6 packets randomly stop being routed?
12:52:19 <polarian> on FreeBSD 15.0
12:52:23 <polarian> (release)
12:52:51 <polarian> for the second time in maybe 3 months, the route seems to have been lost for IPv6 completely randomly
12:52:59 * polarian shrugs
12:53:03 <polarian> will see if it happens again
14:13:21 <leah2> polarian: using some realtek nic?
16:20:58 <elivoncoder> 15.1-rc2 is here https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/15.1/
18:12:21 <Ltning> Hrmf, drm-612-kmod is not being nice to me. Back to 6.6. :-/
19:32:03 <rdr> does anyone here run Linux steam on FreeBSD?
19:33:25 <rdr> would be nice if Sony just contributed all the device drivers and such and opened up their PS5 OS.  It's based on FreeBSD right?
19:47:09 <elivoncoder> would be nice heh
19:49:39 <rdr> haha
20:04:52 <polarian> leah2: yes
20:04:58 <polarian> I believe so
20:05:01 <polarian> cant quite remember
20:13:04 <leah2> polarian: iirc there's a bug with upstream drivers and checksumming. see https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/blob/main/net/realtek-re-kmod/pkg-message
20:56:48 <solstis> hello! i'm trying to install a win program on freebsd but i get a message:
20:56:51 <solstis> wine: could not load ntdll.so: Shared object "libprocstat.so.1" not found, required by "ntdll.so"
20:57:22 <solstis> any ideas how can i get this .so.1. .. ?
20:59:19 <rdr> hmmmm what program
20:59:29 <rdr> did you look it up on winedb?
20:59:34 <rdr> is that still a thing?
21:02:02 <rdr> oh, solstis you dont have 32 bit stuff installed
21:02:38 <rdr> bsdinstall lib32  #this command should get those libraries installed
21:03:07 <rdr> unless it's more proper to use pkg these days?
21:16:01 <solstis> zsh: command not found: bsdinstall
21:16:23 <solstis> would ' pkg install wine32 ' install these 32bit stuff ?
21:18:24 <solstis> hmm no it doesnt work.. i guess i did this command on linux maybe
21:19:21 <solstis> 'winetricks' ?
21:21:19 <rdr> hmmmm
21:21:25 <rdr> i'll look into it one sec
21:23:03 <solstis> ok, thx a lot
21:23:22 <rdr> solstis: i *think* you would want to do "pkg install FreeBSD-lib32" BUT it might not work
21:23:40 <rdr> only if you are on (Tech Preview"
21:24:52 <rdr> https://paste.cachyos.org/p/2433f31.txt here is some instructions on how to do it if it fails
21:25:52 <ivy> that would be FreeBSD-set-lib32, not FreeBSD-lib32 which doesn't exist
21:26:06 <rdr> ooh thanks
21:26:17 <rdr> my googling failed me
21:27:24 <solstis> thanks for the help guys! i will try the thing from the website link
21:28:03 * solstis is ashamed that he needs to admit that he is using GhostBSD
21:28:31 <solstis> :-( i'm in tis channel because i think it should work the same..
21:28:55 <solstis> kg: No packages available to install matching 'FreeBSD-set-lib32' have been found in the repositories
21:30:14 <rdr> ohhhhh you probably aren't able to use that package method
21:30:22 <rdr> you'll have to fetch and extract
21:32:02 <ivy> rdr: are you sure that's the right method for GhostBSD?  (i don't know anything about this downstream, but randomly extracting things into it may cause issues, i suppose)
21:32:33 <rdr> hmmmm i'm not certain but it is just FreeBSD which is preconfigured
21:33:12 <rdr> solstis: can you give us the output of `uname -m` and `uname -r`
21:33:39 <solstis> uname -m
21:33:39 <solstis> amd64
21:33:46 <solstis> uname -r
21:33:46 <solstis> 15.0-RELEASE-p8
21:34:24 <rdr> oh okay, so it looks pretty vanilla, but ivy is right again, you'd probably want to download from ghostbsd's servers because who knows what they've modified :O
21:36:48 <solstis> ok will try that, thank you very much, rdr, ivy !
21:37:41 <solstis> tomorrow i will continue the attempts (now it's late here.., time for bed)
21:37:45 <rdr> yeah that's the trouble with using anything that isn't the main release
21:37:55 <rdr> sometimes the solution is slightly different
21:38:22 <solstis> i wanted to put freebsd on my hardware but was intimidated that i would be able to set it up correctly..
21:38:36 <solstis> so i settled for some compromise
21:38:43 <rdr> like many linux distros are based on another distro, but change the /etc/os-release file so some commands fail lol
21:38:53 <solstis> *that i would NOT be able
21:39:05 <rdr> yeah it's intimidating
21:39:09 <vkarlsen> solstis: Have a little faith in yourself :D
21:39:12 <rdr> but i got it mostly working :)
21:39:36 <solstis> :-D
21:40:19 <ivy> solstis: fwiw, if ghostbsd has some sort of mailing list / support forum, you could just ask them the right way to install 32-bit libraries
21:42:21 <solstis> good idea.. will try that
21:42:55 <solstis> wine: could not load ntdll.so: Shared object "libprocstat.so.1" not found, required by "ntdll.so"
21:43:16 <solstis> oops. sorry (the paste was for another channel)
21:44:42 <solstis> in the ghostbsd channel on this network they're like.. 18 ppl. i will leave the inquiry for tomorrow- i feel very sleepy
21:45:05 <solstis> have a good day  (evening?) thanks again for the assistance and advice