01:51:25 <rdr> I see the BSD, but it wasn't free... I paid with my blood, sweat, and tears ;_;
01:52:36 <djPoorly> it's always a struggle, then you die alone
01:54:41 <djPoorly> I'm new to Freebsd, however I do enjoy how involved it is
02:10:46 <rwp> BSD gives me the power to crush those who oppose me. :-)
02:14:03 <rdr> i like how a package told me "you maybe dont want to install this" after i installed it XD
02:15:21 <s2r> rdr, package near eol?
02:15:32 <rdr> oh it was eol in 2024 lol
02:16:18 <rdr> centos7 emulation layer
02:16:24 <rdr> i went with rocky 9
02:36:06 <wavefunction> BSD = Blood, Sweat, and ground-in Dirt?
02:40:24 <tangentnet> BSD = Bondage, Sockets, and Daemons.
10:41:32 <FaFaS> Heya. Would like to ask if py-build@py311 py311-wheel-0.47.0 works fine on 14.4? having problems updating using ports.
13:53:36 <skered> FaFaS: Via `make build`?
13:54:10 <skered> FaFaS: Makefile error: UNIQUE (suffix): ... error?
18:13:01 <Comstar> is it wrong that I get the impression that SMPng was a big deal for a minute until 2005 and then stuff quieted down about it?  or did the documentation/whitepapers stop because it basically got implemented and was a solved problem
18:18:24 <Comstar> like I know some of the amd64 smp stuff got updated as late as oct last year with stuff like `cpu_mp_stop` being added
19:40:16 <ivy> SMPng was the name for the new kernel threading features which shipped in 5.0, while they were in development.  after smpng was merged there was no need for it to have a name anymore
20:27:00 <LXGHTNXNG> stop the world, I want to gc
20:35:49 <Comstar> ivy, I guess my question then would be that https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/arch-handbook/smp/ would otherwise have seemed to be the documentation on how threading/caching is implemented on FreeBSD?   I get that this isn't Design And Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System
20:36:38 <Comstar> i just think the stuff is neat and wanted to know how cache misses and stuff are thought of which the chapter of the architecture handbook does discuss
20:44:51 <CrtxReavr> 5.x was an unstable POS on SMP hardware.
20:45:19 <CrtxReavr> Found myself removing SMP support from my kernel, 'til 6.x came out.
20:45:47 <CrtxReavr> 6.x also added SCHED_ULE which was an awesome improvement.
20:46:14 <CrtxReavr> I think that was the last time I jumped early to a new major FreeBSD version.
20:46:38 <Comstar> scars from the trenches
20:46:59 <CrtxReavr> It was so weird and scary for FreeBSD to not have rock-solid stability.
20:47:14 <vkarlsen> Single-thread Reaver, they called him
21:01:29 <sopparus>   throw new Error(`Unsupported platform: ${platform} (${arch})`);
21:01:29 <sopparus>            ^
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21:01:30 <sopparus>    Error: Unsupported platform: freebsd (x64)
21:01:36 <sopparus> from codex npm install?
21:01:41 <sopparus> did the drop freebsd?
21:01:45 <sopparus> theyy
21:11:55 <Comstar> sopparus, https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/13802
21:12:19 <sopparus> thanks
21:12:22 <sopparus> but how sad
21:15:27 <nimaje> sometimes people don't care to write portable software
21:54:46 <rtprio> not even not portable, but actively unportable