03:09:29 <tangentnet> hi, has anyone seen frogs or tigelle?
05:06:18 <iRobbery> 00107 1110697698980 93298606714488 Thu Apr 16 05:05:20 2026 skipto 1000 icmp from 10.10.2.0/24 to any out via bridge0 keep-state :default // seems rather high for a server that is idle
05:33:28 <iRobbery> https://blog.feld.me/posts/2026/02/using-new-bridges-freebsd-15/ && https://people.freebsd.org/~ivy/bridge_vlan_filtering.txt
05:34:05 <iRobbery> if anybody has more reading material about all these changes to bridges/ipfw and how to make it behave like it did on 14.x that would be great... though im already leaning towards going back to 14.x
07:50:26 <dch> iRobbery: other than bridge(4) manpage, ivy's post is as good as it gets, if you can clarify what you're running into that would help
08:04:39 <iRobbery> dch: i posted on forums freebsd with config snips and sorts, https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-15-bridge.102377/
08:06:16 <iRobbery> since i always assume i mess something up, i have repeated the install/config process a few times. 14.4 -> 15.0 -> 14.4 -> 15.0 to make sure i was not clearly to be blamed, at least not very obviously :)
11:27:04 <f451> hi folks. looking for a howto for swap-over-nfs
11:29:45 <f451> is it just mounting the nfs dir then creating a swapfile on that from the client?
11:29:52 <ketas> i've done this
11:29:53 <ketas> yes
11:29:58 <ketas> but
11:30:04 <f451> :D
11:30:04 <qiu> hi, did you try with mdconfig? I'd guess it should work like with local swapfiles
11:30:09 <ketas> it's a horror
11:30:19 <f451> i bet but its temporary
11:30:32 <ketas> yes just do it
11:30:43 <f451> it's for building world on a rpi2b
11:30:55 <ketas> i once swapped into smb in win
11:30:59 <f451> the growfs_swap fills up
11:31:10 <ketas> and or ufs in smb on win
11:31:29 <f451> wow
11:31:32 <ketas> well you should not swap into sd anyway
11:31:43 <f451> correct
11:31:50 <f451> ahh better idea
11:31:51 <ketas> so yeah md a file
11:31:54 <ketas> swap to it
11:32:04 <f451> i'll swap onto local usb2
11:32:12 <ketas> a hdd?
11:32:21 <f451> no thumb
11:32:36 <ketas> well i guess it'll work for a while
11:33:10 <f451> also with local usb2 thumb i can make it a partition
11:33:59 <f451> ketas: thanks for the suggestion
11:34:28 <qiu> or two usb thumbs with striping
11:41:55 <f451> ;)
11:46:41 <f451> i get the usual kern.maxswzone warning
12:22:29 <wsky> my new project https://chmurkairurka.pl/ :-)
12:29:06 <ketas> hmm
12:30:52 <ketas> ehm
12:34:09 <polarian> wsky is polish O.O
12:34:18 <wsky> yea
12:34:40 <wsky> it runs on freebsd, i offer shell accounts for 30pln/m :)
12:34:56 <wsky> i got up today and set up a server :D
12:36:57 <wsky> it's $8,3 a month
12:37:16 <polarian> for shell?
12:37:19 <polarian> yikes
12:37:36 <wsky> for shell/cloud/hosting
12:37:50 <polarian> I pay ~£6 for an entire dedi :)
12:37:58 <polarian> how? not gonna say :p
12:38:00 <wsky> and what you got there
12:38:10 <polarian> fuck all because im procrastinating
12:38:18 <wsky> and maybe you'd help me out someohow instead of undermining the whole project :)
12:38:33 <polarian> wsky: sorry didnt mean to make you feel I was undermining you
12:38:46 <polarian> just err... the price is kinda a lot
12:39:17 <wsky> i am not a miltimilion hosting company, just a single guy with a server
12:40:18 <polarian> still... and you realise there are lots of pubnix's out there which provide a similar service for free?
12:40:26 <polarian> again not trying to undermine
12:41:05 <wsky> with ads
12:41:18 <wsky> and worse quality
12:42:36 <polarian> Sure, you get what you pay for
12:43:37 <polarian> idk maybe for others the price isnt terrible, but to me that would be a lot
12:44:02 <polarian> anyways not trying to put you down, I hope it goes well
12:45:05 <polarian> also its nice to see something bsd based for once
12:45:11 <polarian> almost everything is linux based
12:45:14 <polarian> so thats cool too :)
12:45:55 <polarian> theres also https://dataswamp.org/ which is not public, but that runs on OpenBSD
13:21:25 <f451> there's also https://sdf.org
13:21:49 <f451> runs netbsd iirc
13:24:07 <ketas> i have few ideas
13:24:12 <ketas> on this
13:24:28 <ketas> but yes arguments are right
13:25:35 <f451> with sdf you can pay for more services but iirc a simple web page and email and shell sre free
13:41:49 <ketas> business sucks
13:41:56 <ketas> you can do it if
13:42:03 <ketas> it's side task
13:42:23 <ketas> it advertises you
13:42:25 <ketas> etc
13:42:58 <ketas> nevermind the abuse
13:51:09 <f451> yea
13:51:49 <f451> thing is, the problem is the public ;)
13:55:02 <tangentnet> ketas, have you seen frogs?
13:55:47 <f451> bit too cold for them rn, it's mid-spring
13:56:20 <tangentnet> snorters can survive cold
13:57:44 <f451> we have some amphibious thing(s) hibernate over winter. tadpoles are usually very numerous end of spring where im at
13:58:34 <f451> found a slow worm the other day inderneath thatched grass
13:59:31 <ketas> tangentnet: no
13:59:38 <ketas> where is he
14:00:15 <ketas> oh you mean animals?
14:07:07 <boru> There was SID (silence is defeat) but I think that was merged with SDF or something. That also ran OpenBSD iirc.
14:08:31 <boru> Yeah, SDF: https://silenceisdefeat.org
14:09:25 <tangentnet> ketas, no frogs, your bud.
14:09:56 <boru> I thought they had passed away, no?
14:10:24 <tangentnet> boru, I hope not!
14:10:35 <boru> I hope not too. They were a good laugh.
14:10:49 <boru> I always suspected they were behind allaboutthebsds
14:10:50 <tangentnet> true
14:11:15 <tangentnet> phoronix or something like that.
14:12:55 * f451 apologises for derailing the chat with amphibians
14:20:27 <ketas> i don't know where frogsbud is
17:21:37 <wsky> i've finished configuring chmurkairurka.pl more or less
17:26:01 <lts> Congratulations
17:26:53 <lts> You don't have an SPF or DMARC record though, so I can send email as you
17:50:08 <LXGHTNXNG> it depends
17:50:15 <LXGHTNXNG> but email is odd anyway
17:55:35 <satanist> I always send from "bill.gates⊙mc" <bill⊙ee>
18:52:01 <iRobbery> wsky: i dont understand Polish, but FlieZilla* FileZilla :)
18:55:13 <wsky> iRobbery: corrected thanks
18:59:45 <kona> tilde.institute runs obsd
18:59:50 <iRobbery> Nie ma problemu :) the little .pl i know
19:04:27 <wsky> :((
19:04:34 <wsky> i'm having a really bad life
19:05:00 <wsky> in my latest dream i appeared as a charming young guy that was able to create worlds
19:05:12 <wsky> i'm nothing like that in this life
19:08:49 <kona> idk you've got freebsd. new jails are kind of like creating worlds.
20:57:42 * iRobbery making slow progress on figuring out this ipfw/bdrige network issues he has on 15.0
20:58:14 <iRobbery> skipto rules seem to make things loop and make things crash and burn
21:59:03 <wsky> iRobbery: https://chmurkairurka.pl/posts/English/
22:01:41 <polarian> Polska
22:01:50 <polarian> the only Polish word I know ^^
22:01:54 <polarian> Polska and Polski
22:02:08 <polarian> oh and nie
22:02:20 <wsky> polarian: this is the translkated site
22:02:23 <polarian> and tak
22:02:26 <wsky> look it up
22:02:33 <polarian> I know lol
22:02:37 <wsky> ok
22:04:13 <polarian> welp gotta go to bed, gotta be up to hike in a few hours
22:04:23 <polarian> ugh hiking on a few hours sleep, gonna be an experience
22:08:47 <wsky> ok
22:08:49 <wsky> bye :-)