10:07:24 <wsky> i need to run ioq3ded in a jail, how do i do that?
10:09:48 <boru> Which part? Creating the jail, or running the ioq3ded?
10:10:04 <wsky> crating the jail
10:10:19 <wsky> i know how to run ioq3ded
10:10:25 <boru> Lately, I've been using bastille for jail management, and I can recommend it.
10:10:41 <boru> Do you want to expose the jail directly to the network?
10:11:54 <wsky> i want two netowrk ports to be available from internet
10:12:25 <boru> Well, what I mean is, do you want the jail to have its own IP on your LAN? Are you going to use NAT to port forward those Internet facing ports?
10:12:53 <wsky> yes i will be using nat
10:13:10 <boru> And do you want the jail to have its own IP on your LAN?
10:13:15 <wsky> yup
10:15:23 <wsky> boru: so, what should i do? i've ran bastille setup already
10:15:46 <boru> I'm at work. Be patient.
10:16:38 <boru> You could look at the "Installation" and "Networking-VNET-DHCP" sections here for a general idea: https://alfaexploit.com/en/posts/managing_jails_in_freebsd_with_bastille
10:16:51 <boru> However, I'd recommend using a newer RELEASE so you can use `--pkgbase`
10:17:35 <boru> Once you have the jail set up, you can manage installing what you need and dropping into a shell to configure things with bastille.
10:19:32 <boru> If you run into problems, refer to the handbook/bastille documentation, but what's there is more or less as straightforward as it gets.
10:19:50 <wsky> i don't want this software, it's overcoplex
10:19:56 <wsky> i just want a simple jail
10:21:55 <boru> `man 8 jail` -- good luck
14:20:15 <satanist> wsky: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/jails/ a better starting point
14:20:59 <wsky> actually
14:21:14 <wsky> i might go for running ioq3ded without a jail
14:21:22 <wsky> but the startup script wont work :/
14:21:28 <wsky> it does not start up
14:33:11 <rtprio> how's that
14:40:05 <scoobybejesus> I also tend to recommend bastille, because of its simplicity. It's a nice abstraction that you can easily dig into because it's just shell scripts
14:56:18 <wsky> rtprio: it simply wont start up
14:56:26 <wsky> it silently fails
17:36:54 <mason> wsky: If your jails will be on your LAN directly, I describe that here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/MasonLoringBliss/JailsEpair
17:37:29 <mason> I'm still working through the more traditional "jail on lo0 and NAT for a couple ports" config.
21:01:15 <dch> I want to put lockf inside an existing shell script, any comments on this approach? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9m8mK5jb/stuff.sh
21:01:45 <dch> it seems to work ok
23:38:55 <rtj> I started with iocage and found vanilla jails a lot more simple. That was the old version that was abandonded though I belive. Many years ago in FreeNAS before it was TrueNAS.
23:39:25 <rtj> It worked pretty well in the GUI but I was trying to use it CLI.
23:39:39 <rtj> I had a lot of trouble with the vnet networking.
23:40:08 <rtj> Could have just been user error. :)