00:32:06 read this earlier, interesting to me: https://itsfoss.com/news/ageless-linux/ 00:45:32 thanks for that link, ageless.org is a good read. cheers 00:45:50 australia will be next, for the children, of course :-) 00:58:38 since when have single issues distros ever been successful? the exceptions might be SteamOS (gaming) and Android (Mobile) 01:05:38 agreed but i think that misses the point of the website 01:19:25 what are the criteria of success 03:55:12 rwp: let me try, thx a lot, rwp 04:10:06 rwp: still same 04:51:24 radhitya, You will have to debug it. It's htop, right? What version of Freebsd? 05:10:29 The way I would debug these things is to use "ldd /usr/local/bin/htop" to print out the shared library dependencies. 05:11:10 That will show something like "libunwind.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libunwind.so.8 (0x9488e8cd000)". 05:11:50 Then I would use "pkg which pkg which /usr/local/lib/libunwind.so.8" to show for example here on 14.3R that it "was installed by package libunwind-20250904". 05:13:02 Then possibly force a re-install with "pkg upgrade -f libunwind". 10:42:59 rwp: https://ibb.co.com/5hTpgZ4D 11:03:39 hm, how about ldd /usr/local/lib/libunwind.so.8 my current guess is that some dependency of libunwind broke for you 11:18:47 liblzma would be a candidate, as it is there in the lld output for root, but not for your user 11:21:08 nimaje: liblzma.so.5 => /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 (0x39964ef0000) (non-root) 11:21:30 liblzma.so.5 => /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 (0x1ecaf1e0a000) (root) 11:21:37 different output, strange 11:28:46 and the rest of ldd /usr/local/lib/libunwind.so.8 ? 13:22:07 libmap.conf(5) might be your friend. 13:33:23 probably not, as it works for root, probably permissions got messed up somewhere and somehow 14:49:37 nimaje, true. . . though I don't think I've ever encountered an issue where linking worked for root vs. non-root. 14:49:54 But I could totally see how file perms could break that. 21:20:52 radhitya, ls -ld / /usr /usr/local /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/lib/libunwind.so.8 /usr/local/lib/lib/libunwind.so.8.* 21:21:21 Given your latest information I suspect that the directory accidentally has restricted permissions. 21:37:30 oh shoot, it seems i have wrecked my thunderbird data after a unclean reboot 21:42:19 radhitya: different output because you had a trailing colon on the binary path when you tried to exec it in that img 21:49:37 thankfully i could restore my thunderbird, it seems prefs.js was messed up and there was a backup of that file with a -1 suffix. 23:13:56 kevans, Yes but note the ldd above it in that paste. All of the /lib/* files are found but the /usr/local/lib/* file is not found unless run as root. So I think that /usr/local and/or /usr/local/lib has accidental restricted permissions. 23:40:02 isn't it setuid or something where you can have programs owned by root:wheel yet ordinary users are allowed to use them? I'm no wizard about some of this stuff