00:07:10 welp I am seeing it right now 00:07:18 well hold up lemme verify 00:51:47 I am on 15.0, with pkgbase. I'm looking at the handbook, 26.7.2. Upgrading a Host using freebsd-base 00:53:30 I have this line by itself in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD-base.conf: { enabled: yes } # I didn't mkdir -p nor created the file, that's what got installed 00:55:25 do I have to create the repo stanza, etc.? or am I good to go? I mean, can I simply run pkg update -r FreeBSD-base and pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base? 01:13:43 just running those 2 commands seems to have worked 03:47:30 mmlj4: Yep. That should have worked. That file in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ is just to override the "enabled: no" for FreeBSD-base in the /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf file. 07:45:40 anth: if possible you want to use the kms driver for X 07:50:35 and to me scfb(4x) reads like you only want to use it if you really have to, because nothing else works 10:03:12 Hi 10:03:22 why installing open-vm-tools installs wayland...? 10:03:40 and sqlite3 ? 10:03:46 xorgproto 10:40:30 eoli3n: there's a nox11 flavour 11:22:16 I'm using lockf -k /some/lock/file with 15 cron jobs which are starting at the exact same time, am I sur that all commands will be executed? 12:22:36 deepy great ! thanks 12:25:06 ek: thanks 13:54:19 mage: not the approach I would take 15:13:06 rtprio: which approach would you take .. ? :) 15:13:45 the use-case is syncoid, with # crontab -l -u zsync_send 15:13:45 @600 TZ=UTC /usr/bin/lockf -k /tmp/.syncoid-cron /usr/local/bin/syncoid --no-sync-snap --sshcipher="aes128-gcm⊙oc" --include-snaps="autosnap" --no-privilege-elevation --compress=none --recursive --force-delete zsync_send⊙sl:zroot_srv/data/users/julien zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv/data/users/julien 15:13:50 @600 TZ=UTC /usr/bin/lockf -k /tmp/.syncoid-cron /usr/local/bin/syncoid --no-sync-snap --sshcipher="aes128-gcm⊙oc" --include-snaps="autosnap" --no-privilege-elevation --compress=none --recursive --force-delete zsync_send⊙sl:zroot_srv/data/jails/nextcloud zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv/data/jails/nextcloud 15:13:55 @600 TZ=UTC /usr/bin/lockf -k /tmp/.syncoid-cron /usr/local/bin/syncoid --no-sync-snap --sshcipher="aes128-gcm⊙oc" --include-snaps="autosnap" --no-privilege-elevation --compress=none --recursive --force-delete zsync_send⊙sl:zroot_srv/jails/nextcloud zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv/jails/nextcloud 15:14:00 oops 15:14:03 sorry 15:29:47 i would put those in a script and run the script from cron 15:30:49 good idea, thanks 16:50:52 when I got up to like 10 syncoid lines in one crontab, i finally got them into a script recently 18:29:38 syncoid? 18:30:39 Oh, it's a ZFS thing. 18:59:44 should I ditch pulseaudio on freebsd and go with oss only? 19:01:07 if you just want to hear some mp3's and flac's, use what is simpler 19:02:06 latency is an issue for me with pulseaudio 19:06:44 https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sound search for word "latency" there are some tweaks and recommendations here 19:09:22 https://m4c.pl/blog/freebsd-audio-setup-bitperfect-equalizer-realtime/ some nice recommendations here 19:09:55 thank you! 19:29:50 https://2.5admins.com/2-5-admins-288/ and now HDD prices is going up as AI companies is buying all of WD - Western Digital Stock 😛 22:36:30 luna: WD has been sold out for the entirety of 2026 for a while now. AI stuff is causing some serious problems for anything other than huge, rich companies. 23:06:24 rich people's yacht money at work 23:22:17 I had someone suggest to me that it is good that the AI craze is breaking everything. Breaking everything means that everyone will feel the pain. And then maybe everyone will be able to keep it contained. If it were only some small group getting the pain then there would be no saving them. 23:23:05 RAM is now unavailable. Storage is now unavailable. Heroku hosting sold all of their capacity to AI startups. There is a long list of similar things happening due to AI consuming everything right now. 23:23:19 Oh, I thought I was in -social... 23:42:35 I sold a 32GB memory kit on ebay recently for more than I bought the sapphire rapids workstation I pulled it from for 23:42:42 It is truly crazy 23:43:16 I didn't feel too bad as it was bought by some sort of dropshipper business in Slough 23:48:05 Okay, I think I've got a bouncer up and running now.