00:02:23 <aGaTHoS> 2 pc hangs today after the last pkg update && pkg upgrade && freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install, and then reboot, is there any issues with
00:02:27 <aGaTHoS> 15.0-RELEASE-p2
00:02:42 <aGaTHoS> ?
00:10:22 <mjp> whole OS lock up after boot?
00:12:36 <aGaTHoS> after 4 hours of boot it hanged completely not accesible by ssh screen freezed... then reboot and after 7 hours more or less happened the same
00:17:01 <mjp> :(
00:17:01 <mjp> and worked on on -p1?
00:17:01 <mjp> can see the patches for -p1 and -p2 here, they dont look they _should_ cause an OS to lock up completely https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/errata/
00:28:51 <aGaTHoS> I think previous 15.0-RELEASE-p2 i was just on 15.0-RELEASE
00:32:19 <aGaTHoS> maybe is a coincidence, in the past several years ago i experimented the same hangs, i was using linux then, it eventually even left unbootable mi hard drive, then i install windows and have the same problems at firs but then with another reinstall it stopped to hang and use it for some years until i install freebsd like 3 months ago, and since today i hadn't hang problems, well maybe one or two
00:32:21 <aGaTHoS> times hanged but not so quickly as today
00:33:17 <mjp> sounds like it could be a hardware / firmware problem then
00:34:07 <mjp> update bios/uefi, check hdd health, psu voltages etc.
00:34:36 <polarian> I have had no issues with -2
00:34:38 <polarian> -p2*
00:35:11 <mjp> yeah me either...
00:38:31 <aGaTHoS> and I can't see any error messages in /var/log/messages there aren't also files in /var/crash, it just completely freezes, it should be a hardware problem that has come back
00:43:32 <aGaTHoS> the only thing there wasn't when it has stability with windows for years is that i disconnected my disk with the home in zfs, but it has been back for three months without issues, the only thing today ia have done after the update and reboot has been opened the case to see if i could install a disk that i have but the cable wasnt long enought, but i haev touched very little the other disk. maybe
00:43:34 <aGaTHoS> there's some problem with the disk connection or something
04:48:19 <Chip1972> FreeBSD have Rust code in the kernel?
04:49:52 <rwp> Not yet.  But there are external modules.  I don't know which ones.
04:49:53 <SarahMalik> I don't believe so; why?
04:57:12 <kevans> we have at least one contributor that's written some apple silicon drivers in rust, but not upstreamed for the obvious reason
05:55:11 <kerneldove> yikes jail escape cve
06:11:01 <AnomicBSD> no shit?
06:12:12 <AnomicBSD> oh yea, check that out: https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-26:02.jail.asc
10:41:14 <vortexx> polarian: are you using VNET for your jails on the wifi interface or a bridge interface? Bridge interfaces don't work with 802.11, not sure VNETs do
11:01:51 <bendodroid> I'm on 15.0-RELEASE and my pkg (tracking latest ports, not quarterly) wants to remove deskutils/nextcloudclient when I do pkg upgrade, anyone else having the same problem? pkg search no longer finds it either.
11:02:26 <bendodroid> It's a bit weird that https://www.freshports.org/deskutils/nextcloudclient/ also no longer finds a version, but only for 15.0 latest, quarterly still has it
11:04:06 <bendodroid> And by digging through https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ I found the poudriere logs https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy23/build.html?mastername=150amd64-default&build=12d307f3fb3f which claim the port was built successfully
11:04:40 <bendodroid> Why would it vanish from the repos then? I've never had something like this happen before...
11:09:33 <nimaje> hm, maybe skipped because a dependency failed to build? Then fallout wouldn't find it. But the bulk you found there seems to be the correct and most recent one and that says succesfully build
11:21:26 <polarian> vortexx: its routed
11:21:27 <polarian> no bridging
11:21:46 <polarian> besides the interface it sits on is wg0
11:57:57 <bendodroid> nimaje: That was my first suspicion too, but then I found the poudriere logs. Seems like the pkgs built by that builder never went live or something, weird.
11:59:22 <nimaje> polarian: so you created a wg interface on the host and gave that to a vnet jail? how did you create the wg interface? wg-quick assumes you want to use it where you created it
13:17:52 <polarian> nimaje: wg-quick is used as per the service, epair is used for the jail and then a tap device for the vm within it, and its all routed, no bridging
13:18:04 <polarian> for some reason the host drops the packet
13:18:08 <polarian> lemme grab the ML post for it
13:19:25 <polarian> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pf/2025-April/000723.html
13:19:30 <polarian> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2025-July/006747.html
13:19:33 <polarian> thats as far as I got debugging it
13:19:41 <polarian> I did go further a few months ago, no dice
13:20:15 <polarian> in the end after speaking to adrian on #freebsd-wifi on efnet I finally decided it was no longer a skill issue on my part, and this is likely a bug
13:20:32 <polarian> skip forward a few months, I still haven't found the time to write up a detailed bugzilla issue for it
15:35:29 <antranigv> what's the recommended laptop these days? I need a laptop to be used a client device: email, ssh, browser, chat clients (xmpp, telegram, signal). Ideally I'd want something with an amazing battery lif
15:39:02 <linXea> Cannot go wrong with a Dell Latitude series, especially the higher tier 7- and 9- series
15:43:50 <hodapp> used to be Thinkpads but I guess they're not so great nowadays
15:56:37 <ant-x> I hear only good feedback from owners of Framework laptops.
16:10:29 <CrtxReavr> 'Cept for the whole Trump-loving Michael Dell cash-cow.
16:17:06 <nerozero> sorry for offtop, does anyone else experience issues with signal ?
16:17:24 <nerozero> (the messenger)
16:18:22 <CrtxReavr> I've mostly had great luck with it.
16:18:30 <CrtxReavr> What are you experiencing?
16:18:52 <nerozero> no connection
16:19:00 <nerozero> ah https://status.signal.org/
16:21:28 <CrtxReavr> I thought ou meant in general. . .
16:21:38 <CrtxReavr> But, yes, I see my desktop client is disconnected.
16:22:35 <CrtxReavr> https://downdetector.com/status/signal/
16:23:12 <CrtxReavr> nerozero, where you located?
16:30:46 * ant-x I thought Signal was open source and self-hostable, but is a another centralised messenger?
16:36:16 <rrahl0> ant-x: it is foss, but (for some reason) there are no competing clients/servers... (never looked into it why)
16:36:46 <nxjoseph> there is unofficial client: net-im/flare
16:37:05 <rrahl0> yeah I saw that, but the last time I tried it, it was unusable
16:37:13 <nxjoseph> well it works for me
16:37:40 <nxjoseph> it's still highly in development though
16:37:49 <rrahl0> good to know, thanks :) will look into it
16:37:51 <scottpedia> nerozero: irc2p was down earlier so it's not just signal's issue
16:38:04 <scottpedia> reportedly tor had gone dark too
16:38:35 <nerozero> sorry where AFK
16:38:44 <nerozero> its kinda coming back now
16:38:51 <scottpedia> yeah
16:38:57 <nerozero> messages are coming in random order
16:39:03 <nerozero> thanks for replies
16:39:48 <scottpedia> ant-x: do you know of session? it's basically signal without the use of phone number
16:40:46 <scottpedia> tox, jamie(?), various XMPP chat protocols are some examples
16:41:39 <scottpedia> jitsi for voice chat, and element/matrix
16:41:41 <nerozero> have you tried a "briar" messenger
16:41:59 <nerozero> I have lost hope with matrix ...
16:42:10 <scottpedia> nerozero: wdym a "briar" messenger?
16:42:37 <nerozero> https://briarproject.org/
16:42:54 <nerozero> No number, no caching, direct messages
16:43:00 <nerozero> tor network support
16:43:11 <nerozero> desktop app / android / linux clients
16:43:19 <nerozero> java application
16:43:39 <scottpedia> that sounds great
16:43:47 <nerozero> require 0 user information other then nickname
16:44:15 <scottpedia> how does it do the bootstraping?
16:44:27 <scottpedia> does it require any central server to reseed?
16:44:40 <nerozero> your instance is a server
16:44:50 <scottpedia> ohh okay
16:45:02 <scottpedia> gotcha. I was talking about something else sorry
16:45:06 <nerozero> you can make your mailboxes by running same app with your own keys
16:45:13 <nerozero> so the messages are always on your side
16:45:25 <ant-x> scottpedia, Briar looks good.
16:45:48 <nerozero> but do not download applications from the webside
16:45:54 <nerozero> go directly to git
16:46:10 <nerozero> website contains very old versions and builds
16:46:36 <nerozero> its not a microslop github which is also a plus
16:46:57 <scottpedia> ant-x: man. if you talking about "centralised messenger" anything is good basically, even a forum software.
16:47:12 <ant-x> Yes.
16:47:46 <nerozero> in case of centralized server - host your own nextcloud instance
16:47:54 <scottpedia> ohh I forgot to mention bigbluebox(?)
16:47:57 <nerozero> and use nextcloud talk
16:48:28 <scottpedia> alternative to the zoom thing.
16:50:10 <nerozero> also look @ https://nadeko.net/
16:50:16 <scottpedia> nerozero: have to express my dislike of nextcloud here, first because of being written in php
16:50:34 <nimaje> you mean bigbluebutton?
16:50:45 <nerozero> from my side its a plus, not a minus
16:50:45 <scottpedia> nimaje: yeah. thx for the correction
16:51:13 <nerozero> https://meet.nadeko.net/
16:51:21 <scottpedia> as a CMS software it's not very well designed humbly speaking
16:51:36 <nerozero> you can host it by yourself
16:52:14 <nerozero> afk
16:56:12 <mosaid> Hi
16:56:21 <mosaid> heh, znc now works
16:58:27 <mosaid> nerozero: nadeko.net is the best! it hosts the most workable Invidious..
17:28:37 <sandbag> hello, does bastillebsd create lightweight jails? it only mentions container framework so i am confused https://bastillebsd.org/
17:30:14 <sandbag> which jail manager is recommended? like i want something like proxmox/incus to create jails
17:31:43 <sandbag> this is recommended? https://freebsd.github.io/iocage/
17:34:48 <vortexx> polarian: ok
17:44:30 <antranigv> sandbag its fine
17:44:58 <antranigv> sandbag there's also BastilleBSD, recommended by most of the community. I also maintain jailer.dev, which is more hands-on compared to the others.
19:50:11 <Posterdati> hi
19:50:14 <Posterdati> please help
19:50:30 <Posterdati> which is the standard arm toolchain on freebsd 15.0? Thanks
19:55:39 <Posterdati> ?
20:02:44 <eoli3n> Hi
20:02:46 <eoli3n> since latest upgrade, i have a strange behaviour of my freebsd arm64 VM
20:02:48 <eoli3n> FreeBSD wps 15.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC arm64
20:02:50 <eoli3n> after few hours running, the VM become unreachable
20:02:54 <eoli3n> i can't connect to console through hypervisor interface
20:03:06 <eoli3n> blank screen, there is no real display, this is a "console" display
20:03:36 <eoli3n> this : https://0x0.st/PbIe.png
20:03:48 <eoli3n> i'm forced to reboot
20:04:10 <eoli3n> netdata is running on the host and i receive not any alert, after reboot noting in /var/log/messages
20:04:36 <eoli3n> i just sysrc dumpdev=AUTO
20:04:54 <eoli3n> waiting for the next crash, but I should see something on the console if this is a kernel crash right ?
20:07:43 <eoli3n> i don't have any other idea, is somebody have one ?
20:08:29 <eoli3n> s/is/if
21:41:23 <Posterdati> I found pkg-config not working on freebsd 15.0: it adds wrong switches to --cflags for gtkmm-3.0
22:23:53 <rwp> Posterdati, Please file a Problem Report for it.  (You you know if it worked in the previous release?)
23:23:40 <Matt|home> https://i.ibb.co/V0L362qJ/IMG-20260203-181218796.jpg