05:04:17 <jack-sparrow> how i backup my vps freebsd system on my external usb disk for redeploy if i crash by vps and how can redeploy on my ovh vps from ovh freebsd reinstalled system ?
05:50:04 <antranigv> mornings.
05:50:55 <antranigv> rhaberkorn clone, update, commit, arc diff, get all the profits... or something like that.
05:52:33 <jack-sparrow> morings
05:53:56 <jack-sparrow> https://blues-softwares.openproject.eu/projects/admin-debian-desktop/wiki/backup <-- what need modifing for freebsd system ?
05:56:12 <jack-sparrow> peaprs for --exclude directory ?
08:10:50 <jack-sparrow> https://bpa.st/Q4UA <-- sorry my site isn't readed
10:16:56 <nwe> I using cwm and looking after a good statusbar, can someone recomend a good status bar
13:40:07 <hulina> HELP! Doctor wants to kill me! Help me?
13:41:29 <scottpedia> hulina: wat?
13:41:46 <AmyMalik> off-topic for here
15:06:06 <gnuself> Does one need to copy over configuration from blacklistd to blocklistd to retain the same config when migrating to freebsd 15?
15:07:41 <mzar> yes. you shuld migrate, but old names will work
15:08:11 <gnuself> yeah, I just realized I'm probably being dump and should just copy blacklistd.conf to blocklistd.conf
15:08:18 <gnuself> dumb*
16:48:52 <wildeboskat_> Oh no
16:48:57 <wildeboskat_> https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/26/plasma_6_6_systemd_login/
16:49:08 <wildeboskat_> It's annoying they cozy up with systemd so much
16:49:14 <wildeboskat_> But I can just keep using sddm I understand
16:49:51 <wildeboskat_> And it says wayland now works with KDE on FreeBSD?
16:50:03 <wildeboskat_> I thought there were still major issues? I'll give it a try soon
16:50:36 <wildeboskat_> But if this continued I will stop my monthly donation to KDE I think
17:02:12 <JC_Denton> for a second there, i thought that'd be a CVE about the two
17:02:14 <ant-x> Is Xorg really in such a bad way? -- <https://felipec.wordpress.com/2025/07/08/xorg-neglect/> .
17:05:12 <wildeboskat_> Well Xorg is now managed by redhat and wayland is their 'invented here' so they've been neglecting it on purpose
17:05:55 <wildeboskat_> I always thought that they took it over to basically kill it
17:05:59 <wildeboskat_> And nobody else wanted to of course
17:10:05 <JC_Denton> EEE: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
17:21:45 <ant-x> Is XLibre worth a try? <https://x11libre.net> ?
17:31:51 <rtprio> ant-x: no
17:45:26 <kenrap> wildeboskat_: I think Freedesktop has plans for replacing Xorg: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback
17:47:36 <wildeboskat_> Oh nice
17:47:43 <wildeboskat_> I'm not really hung on Xorg though
17:47:54 <wildeboskat_> Wayland is fine if it works, I just thought it was still broken
17:48:03 <wildeboskat_> Although I do sometimes use the network transparency
17:48:14 <wildeboskat_> But I understand that will still work with xway
17:48:48 <wildeboskat_> I do worry about so many dependencies piling up on systemd though
17:49:01 <wildeboskat_> Maybe we could eventually have a translation layer for it or something on BSD
17:49:32 <wildeboskat_> Because a port is impossible that's for sure (if we'd even want to)
18:35:50 <antranigv> wildeboskat_ yes, but at some point, just like systemd, wayland might become very Linux-y as well. Even tho I like much of the technologies in wayland, I hate that it doesn't have a proper transport layer (we rely on X forwarding for daily use) and that they might just ignore the other Unices over time. we need x11libre to be stable and modern.
18:55:24 <rtprio> and not coded by a crazy conspiracy theorist?
19:01:54 <format_c> Hi, I've issues finding librtmp in FreeBSD. Has it been dropped?
19:03:03 <rtprio> format_c: have you checked in freshports?
19:04:54 <format_c> Good point.
19:05:13 <format_c> Let me try
19:05:22 <format_c> Seem to be there.
19:06:11 <rtprio> expired: Depends on legacy functionality of OpenSSL and superseded by multimedia/ffmpeg
19:06:22 <format_c> Yeah  just saw it
19:06:27 <format_c> port deleted on 2024-04-30
19:06:35 <format_c> :-/
19:08:16 <rtprio> do you have something else which requires that library?
19:11:08 <spork_css> Anyone got hints on how to get port updates committed? I reached out to the maintainer of PowerDNS recursor (which currently has a few CVEs active) and he noted that he submitted a PR for the update, but can't find someone to commit it.
19:12:02 <spork_css> https://www.freshports.org/dns/powerdns-recursor/
19:13:18 <spork_css> https://doc.powerdns.com/recursor/changelog/5.3.html
19:20:47 <antranigv> rtprio Enrico being a bit crazy is something I can handle. ignoring every non-Linux Unix is something I can't stand. Over time, I'm sure more contributors will join as well.
19:21:34 <antranigv> In case anyone needs this https://reviews.freebsd.org/P689
19:32:47 <gnuself> Anyone have suggestions on connecting to an nfsv4 share on freebsd from macos?
19:42:33 <antranigv> gnuself so macOS NFSv4 client? and FreeBSD NFSv4 server? I think you just need to set a flag
19:45:37 <rtprio> finder already has a nfs client, apple-k nfs://your-server and check the logs
19:47:07 <gnuself> guess I'll be moving on to the checking logs part :)
19:52:12 <antranigv> gnuself good luck!
20:02:29 <rtprio> also `man nfs` on the client
20:24:47 <adam_sm> Hey
22:11:32 <tuaris> If I have a virtual machine (freebsd of course), and I set it up with two volumes, then have a ZFS pool using a vdev with those two volumes in a mirror, do I gain anything in terms of read speed?
22:12:13 <tuaris> Assuking those two virtual volumes are backed by the same physical volume on the host machine
22:12:19 <tuaris> *assuming
22:13:18 <rtprio> doubtful
22:20:47 <tuaris> Sounds like if I have proper backups running then I don't really gain anything by having a mirrored vdev.  Well, maybe a shorter RTO.
22:22:59 <rtprio> if it's a vm, everything is waiting on the host to write anyway, no you wouldn't gain anything
22:23:23 <rtprio> all of my freebsd virtual machines are single disk zroots
22:24:54 <tuaris> I've had incidents where ZFS virtual volumes get damaged and refuse mount.  I figure I can mitigate that issue by having a mirror or copies=2