01:01:09 <rtprio> ant-x: whats wrong with twm?
01:09:01 <ant-x> rtprio, it behaves wrong with pop-up menus of e.g. FireFox. When I press the sandwich button, a pop-up menu is shown, but it disappears as soon as I shift the mouse cursor, unless I keep holding the LMB down.
01:09:26 <ant-x> ^ This does not happen on Windows and I am sure is not meant to happen anywhere.
02:39:47 <CorvetteZR1> hello.  i have an old laptop with intel ivybridge and HD4000 graphics.  it was working well up until i updated to freebsd 15.  now, it doesn't load i915kms on boot; i have to load it manually using kldload
02:42:00 <CorvetteZR1> i have kld_list="i915kms" in /etc/rc.conf, i also tried full path, kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" (file does exist) and in both cases, i see a warning during boot that says:  /etc/rc WARNING: can't load i915kms: No such file or directory
02:43:00 <CorvetteZR1> but then logging in and running sudo kldload i915kms does load it.  any thoughts on why rc can't find the file?  zfs filesystem if it matters...
02:44:22 <CorvetteZR1> i've been using the laptop since freebsd 11 and it was working fine until freebsd 14.3 and this issue only crept up after updating to freebsd 15...there weren't any obvious errors/failures during update to freebsd 15, followed the usual process as documented in handbook
02:46:27 <CorvetteZR1> using drm-kmod package
02:49:21 <rtprio> but you say `# kldload i915kms` works just fine
02:50:04 <CorvetteZR1> from cli, yes, it does
02:50:16 <CorvetteZR1> but not when rc tries to load it during boot
02:50:49 <CorvetteZR1> rc says file not found...even if i give it full path
02:51:05 <rtprio> you shouldn't have to give it a full path
02:51:24 <CorvetteZR1> right, it doesn't find it with or without
02:51:25 <rtprio> how did you upgrade to 15? freebsd-update?
02:51:28 <CorvetteZR1> yes
02:52:09 <rtprio> after booting, try running `service kld start`
02:52:42 <rtprio> we can try and diagnose that
02:53:00 <CorvetteZR1> ok
02:54:07 <CorvetteZR1> will disconnect to reboot, brb
02:56:47 <CorvetteZR1> ok, running 'service kld start' in cli loads it fine
02:58:06 <rtprio> and at boot there's no related errors?
02:58:30 <CorvetteZR1> during boot got that same error that it couldn't find file
02:58:48 <CorvetteZR1> i ran service kld start after boot in cli and that loaded it
02:59:04 <CorvetteZR1> should i run service kld enable or something so it runs during boot?
02:59:20 <CorvetteZR1> i need to step out to walk the dog, will be back in 20 min or so...
03:06:12 <rtprio> CorvetteZR1: it should always run
03:06:34 <rtprio> i don't know, sorry, maybe someone else knows
03:23:46 <CorvetteZR1> yea, this is weird...ok, i'll keep digging.  thank you!