00:07:53 adiabatic, I don't know but I might think that fragmentation is also a measure of how discontinuous the free block space is on the disk. Freeing up files creates free blocks in those dispersed areas. Maybe. Don't quote me on it. 00:08:20 better than _my_ best guess, at least. 00:08:41 I wonder how big the new files are… 00:09:44 I save off articles and then never have time to read them in detail. But look at this one: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSZpoolFragmentationDetails 00:10:27 It's 10 years old now from 2015 so I am sure many details will be different but it is a place to start. 00:10:46 The new ones are all 67 MB apiece. 00:12:35 this looks like it's gonna be the ticket but I'm gonna have to get a good night's sleep before it makes sense 00:12:41 thanks! 00:14:50 I think in general the wisdom of the net has been that the frag reported in zpool list does not mean what we coming from other file systems thinks it means. And that we can pretty much not worry about it. As long as there is enough free space for the file system to work. Keep 5%-10% free. 00:19:10 I don't even _remember_ fragmentation percentages in Norton Utilities or Diskeeper or whatever it was for NTFS. 00:19:18 But it's kind of been a while. 00:29:25 rwp I will also relisten or read the transcript from the latest 2.4ad podcast there was question from the listeners. 00:31:10 rwp my install would hold the contents of /var/opt/mssql (sql server) for a linux vm. 01:42:19 s2r, The command I listed was the one I found as the recommended combination of features for MariaDB/MySQL databases. 03:36:32 what causes state-insert (failures) in the output of pfctl -si? 03:39:03 (state-insert state insertion failure) 03:46:27 zfs question. i have jailed a dataset; within said jail I am getting "cannot set property for 'fleuve/jails/invictus/ARCH/amd64/usr.local': 'mountpoint' cannot be set while dataset 'zoned' property is set" trying to set the mountpoint for a dataset which was legacy mounted (mount -t zfs works though) 03:47:02 do i have to fettle something to make the script that processes fstab work jailed 04:16:15 also got IPv6 being fun™ 04:22:15 ok this is weird for me. I have a laptop(mac) connected to a box that's doing nat and wireguard to my home network. my laptop seems to nfs mount from my home server and shows top level folders but when I try to go into one the mount seems to hang 04:41:18 crb: are you using NFSv4 ? 04:42:45 if the client is behind NAT but the server no, then only NFSv4 protocol is able to help 04:45:51 Also NFSv3 is latency limited, works great on a LAN, but is terrible over the Internet WAN. Recommend to avoid. (I don't know about NFSv4 over the Internet WAN.) 04:46:22 Over the Internet WAN sshfs might be a better choice. But I know you said Mac and I have no idea anything about macs of if they support sshfs or not. 04:47:23 I'm on a Mac and I _used_ to use sshfs with FUSE… 04:47:39 Also NFS operates in the kernel layer. Which means that when servers drop off, because the Internet is not reliable, or you moved your laptop, or whatever, then it can wedge up systems. Since sshfs is in the fuse layer that never wedges up the kernel. 04:48:37 NFS is really a LAN protocol. I have worked with NFS on LANs forever. Not hating on NFS here. NFS is actually a good thing. 04:51:35 LXGHTNXNG, How are you mounting with fstab? I forget which but if trying to use fstab /inside/ the jail then yes there are more permissions needed for it. But instead add the mount line in the /etc/jail.conf file and it should work. That's a typical way, of the several, of mounting into jails as the jail starts and unmounting automatically when the jail is stopped. 04:55:19 LXGHTNXNG: when dataset is jailed, you can change properties of this dataset from within the jail 04:56:58 If I don't need the dataset mounted in the jail directly, I just use nullfs and be done with it. 05:00:01 ek: sometimes jailing a dataset is the only viable solution, for example if you want to run poudriere in the jail 05:02:40 mzar: Exactly. If I don't need anything like that, I just use nullfs from outside to grant r/w or whatever to the jail. 05:04:20 yep, good point, that's less complex, we should keep things simple and stupid, that's our duty