00:01:55 <voy4g3r2> i second the sanoid/syncoid.. once setup it is sold and has been working flawlessly for 3 years
00:12:51 <s2r> voy4g3r2 any tutorial worth reading besides the documentation?
00:13:24 <s2r> I listened many times about the combination in 2.5 admins podcast.
00:20:22 <rtj> I love that podcast and the Klara articles.
01:00:22 <s2r> The classic customary Klara articles.
01:20:27 <s2r> specialbomb you set up sanoid script to be run by root or by replicationuser?
01:25:55 <specialbomb> root, for now. ill likely create specific users for it this weekend
01:26:11 <specialbomb> it shouldnt be hard
01:26:14 <s2r> and the syncoid script also as root?
01:26:50 <s2r> I configured saoid to run the script in /etc/crontab however I use zrepuser as the replication user.
01:28:06 <s2r> After I run: syncoid zroot/jails/ubuntu2 zrepuser@nasbackup:mypool/backup/ubuntu2 I'm asked for a password.
01:29:10 <s2r> will try specifying the ssh file
01:29:33 <specialbomb> yeah just point it toward the identity file and it will work
01:31:25 <specialbomb> it worked flawlessly for me via ssh and a keyfile first try, so it shouldnt be hard for you to achieve
01:50:18 <s2r> fixed it with --no-privilege-elevation
01:50:43 <s2r> now I've got to specify sanoid snapshots, now it's trying to send zrepl snapshots
01:54:53 <cpet> CrtxReavr: failed to google
01:55:00 <cpet> s2r: too many snapshots
01:59:00 <s2r> cpet you mean for the first error zrep_0003b5? yes, many many hours without replicating.
01:59:45 <s2r> I reinitiated the replication. fortunately is a small vm around 30GB
03:01:28 <jgardner> o/
03:02:51 <jgardner> howdy. I'm looking to swap to FreeBSD and I'm on an unconventional setup. I'm running Alpine Linux in diskless mode, booting from a customizable boot device (booting into a standard root FS in RAM, then unpacking a compressed /etc, /home, yadda yadda).
03:03:39 <jgardner> I do enjoy being able to run from RAM and boot the same configuration on multiple machines. was wondering if there's something similar to `lbu`/`lbu commit` on FreeBSD.
03:04:44 <jgardner> I went through the handbook and the relevant pieces seem to just talk about NFS/network booting.
03:06:00 <rtj> Something like this maybe? https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?bsdinstall
03:07:01 <rtj> It was neat installing Alpine. I like how they have it setup. It reminded me of Arch. I like it more than Arch though.
03:07:13 <jgardner> I do too!
03:07:36 <rtj> (it all remineded me of FreeBSD) :)
03:07:41 <jgardner> it's quite nice. though docs are a tad lacking/out of date in some places. good opportunity for community involvement. :)
03:07:55 <jgardner> right? like wow.
03:08:00 <jgardner> also that is interesting.. huh.
03:08:28 <jgardner> for me the real magic is being able to load everything into RAM, unmount the drive, and then plug it in later to commit changes.
03:08:45 <jgardner> this is.. interesting.
03:08:53 <rtj> This is cool too. https://mfsbsd.vx.sk/
03:09:32 <jgardner> oh huh.
03:09:34 <rtj> I'm just average user. Sure someone more knowledge might have a better solution.
03:31:58 <voy4g3r2> my knowledge is limited in this area as well but a search.brave.com returns the same site as rtj
03:37:39 <rtj> voy4g3r2: I call that "Consulting the Oracle"
03:51:17 <voy4g3r2> bingo.. i looked at handbook and all i found was using NFS as a server but nothing in the use case that was mentioned above
04:07:52 <rtprio> jgardner: pxe or what?
04:29:52 <rwp> jgardner, It is possible to create a memory disk, unpack-copy-clone mfsbsd into it, reboot -r (re=root option) to it.  And then you are running from ram.  The only limitation is that you continue running the same kernel you booted originally.
04:30:26 <rwp> That technique works and I have used it to do file system changes on the running system before.  No reason you couldn't run that way if that's the way you like to run things.
04:32:03 <rwp> Here is an article with a use case for it.  If you read between the lines then you can do what you are wanting: https://people.freebsd.org/~lidl/blog/re-root.html
04:52:12 <cpet> jgardner: you may be interested in
04:53:11 <cpet> nomadbsd
04:54:44 <cpet> forget the name of what i was looking for
04:59:12 <cpet> there we go
04:59:14 <cpet> mfsbsd
04:59:23 <cpet> https://docs-archive.freebsd.org/doc/9.3-RELEASE/usr/share/doc/freebsd/en/articles/remote-install/preparation.html
04:59:27 <cpet> old but it still works
04:59:48 <cpet> https://mfsbsd.vx.sk/
05:05:30 <rwp> cpet, That's a good piece of documentation that I am going to bookmark and I did something very similar to that to side load FreeBSD onto an OVH node a couple of times in the last few months so far.
05:06:09 <cpet> actually its ins /contrib
05:07:15 <cpet> aww where did it go
05:45:58 <cpet> https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/configuration-management-2/mfsbsd-in-base/
05:46:04 <cpet> guess its not commited yet
10:11:53 <cyric> Ugh, is it just me? pkg: Failed to fetch https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/quarterly/meta.conf: Unknown error
12:00:26 <Macer> There are known knowns and that there are known unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns; things we don't know that we don't know. - Gin Rummy
12:02:15 <Macer> cyric: it worked for me and i'm using FreeBSD.org and not a mirror
12:03:24 <Macer> (although i think freebsd.org just round robins the mirrors afaik)
16:24:33 <kerneldove> 15.0 won't boot on an epyc server i rented. it panics just after the installer tries to start
16:24:46 <kerneldove> can anyone help me debug or should i just keep debian on it?
16:34:45 <CrtxReavr> YOu have console access?  Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?
16:42:50 <kerneldove> ya console
16:43:32 <kerneldove> i tried booting with hint.acpi.0.disabled="1", didn't work. tried adding set acpi_load="NO" to that, still didn't work
16:43:44 <kerneldove> tried going into bios to disable acpi but that's not an option doesn't seem
16:45:42 <kerneldove> fwiw the panic is: madt_parse_apis: double apic id 241
16:46:32 <kerneldove> bios/pc mfg is aici
17:12:23 <JetpackJackson> Is there a way to have poudriere use pre compiled packages from the FreeBSD repo for dependencies and only build the specific target package? EG if I build waybar to update it, can poudriere use packages for the deps and only build waybar?
17:12:58 <nxjoseph> man poudriere-bulk, check -b argument, but it didn't work for me
17:16:13 <JetpackJackson> Hmm I tried that but it gives me packagesite error
17:16:36 <nxjoseph> what command do you run
17:17:37 <JetpackJackson>  sudo poudriere bulk -j def -p def -f /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/packages-def -b latest
17:18:25 <nxjoseph> i see
17:18:55 <nxjoseph> why do you want to build waybar
17:19:02 <nxjoseph> isn't it available as a package
17:19:19 <rtprio> it is
17:19:24 <JetpackJackson> Yeah I just wanted to update it to see if that would add the wlr modules
17:19:35 <JetpackJackson> But I guess I don't really need them
17:19:49 <nxjoseph> or you can do something like, without using poudriere, install required dependencies with pkg then do a make
17:19:59 <JetpackJackson> I think my brain is looking for a distraction from exams
17:20:02 <JetpackJackson> Yeah true
17:20:03 <rtprio> some things don't work in waybar; and the pkg builds all the options, i don't see WLR as an option
17:20:39 <JetpackJackson> I wanted to replace it with conky but couldn't get it to act as a taskbar where stuff doesnt go on top of it
17:21:17 <rtprio> you want to replace waybar with something else is an unusual reason to build it yourself
17:21:50 <nxjoseph> > Yeah I just wanted to update it to see if that would add the wlr module
17:21:59 <nxjoseph> maybe they meant updating to newest release which isn't in ports yet
17:22:14 <nxjoseph> idk if it is outdated or not
17:22:48 <JetpackJackson> Idk
17:22:53 <JetpackJackson> Its no biggie
17:22:57 <JetpackJackson> I'm just distracted
17:23:14 <rtprio> nope, 0.14 is latest for both the port and waybar's github
17:23:20 <nxjoseph> i see
17:23:49 <JetpackJackson> Huh interesting
17:23:58 <rtprio> so stop procrastinating and get back to work
17:24:09 <JetpackJackson> Yeah...
17:24:31 <JetpackJackson> Thank you all btw
17:24:35 <nxjoseph> yw
17:43:51 <JetpackJackson> Ended up looking up the conky thing real quick, looks like the exclusive zone/taskbar thing is being worked on
18:13:48 <Remilia> need to figure out why node24 build breaks on sqlite
18:14:12 <Remilia> I feel like this happened before but cannot recall what was the solution
18:14:58 <Remilia> https://poudriere.haruhiism.net/data/15-lunatear-default/2025-12-10_18h09m17s/logs/errors/node24-24.11.1.log very strange because ‘===>   node24-24.11.1 depends on shared library: libsqlite3.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so)’
18:28:37 <spuos> how would I properly add additional startup dirs like rc.d for say, opt?
18:30:39 <cyric> spuos: see local_startup in rc.conf(5) man page
18:35:21 <spuos> cyric: this is embarrasing, but I can't figure out how to set it. I tried skimming around /etc/defaults/rc.conf but I honestly just cant figure out where I'd put the line for it to be sourced
18:39:51 <Remilia> probably `local_startup="${local_startup} /opt/etc/rc.d"` in rc.conf?
18:40:10 <Remilia> since you want to keep /usr/local/etc/rc.d
18:44:04 <spuos> my brain must be fried. Of course I can set it in rc.conf
19:40:58 <CrtxReavr> I guess sort(1) has no option that's basically the opposite of -u ?  Show me duplicated entries?
19:44:06 <CrtxReavr> I guess uniq -d sorta does what I was looking for.
19:44:27 <CrtxReavr> Though, it requires the duplicates be adjacent, which is stupid.
19:44:41 <CrtxReavr> cat unames.* | sort | uniq -d
19:54:28 <rtprio> sort unames.* | uniq -d
19:54:32 <rtprio> don't abuse cats
19:55:06 <CrtxReavr> That still requires a sort in there.
19:56:26 <lts> I definitely will do a "useless use of cat" with uparrow when first catting and then finding I need to grep
19:56:39 <lts> Or sort, in this case
20:05:31 <CrtxReavr> lts, there's quick & dirty one-liners, then there's scripts you'd actually show to someone.
20:17:00 <MelMalik> lts, nothing wrong with that
20:17:16 <MelMalik> UUOC is not harmful on today's computers
20:17:31 <MelMalik> in the days of decade-megahertz CPUs and minimal RAM, maybe
21:18:36 <Matt|home> o\
21:19:36 <ant-x> \o/
21:19:54 <Matt|home> https://i.ibb.co/pkWSrGY/IMG-20251210-160842.jpg && https://i.ibb.co/rfK91trx/IMG-20251210-161003.jpg <=== even though this one's the smallest batch i've made, it seriously looks and feels like it has the most promise out of all the damn doughs i've made before. used my own recipe for this one. just slightly surprised about the size, but it was singing very nicely when i took it out of the oven so i have high hopes for this one.
21:19:55 <ant-x> o\ /o  -- a frown?
21:20:53 <ant-x> Looketh good.
21:22:29 <Matt|home> <3 i've been fairly depressed over my recent kitchen failures..
21:23:18 <Matt|home> so im still a little apprehensive. gotta wait a solid 2 hours for this to cool
21:32:33 <JetpackJackson> I need to make candied pecans sometime soon
21:39:19 <cpet> JetpackJackson: i made kringle
21:40:14 <JetpackJackson> What's that
21:41:15 <cpet> https://share.google/52Rpk0lLD45i1vqWb
21:41:49 <cpet> moms getting older and told me here you do it this year
21:42:37 <cpet> but thats pretty much what it is
21:42:55 <JetpackJackson> Oh neat
21:43:30 <cpet> then I fixed my moms washer fluid pump never seen one filled with algae before
21:44:17 <JetpackJackson> Oh yikes
21:44:47 <cpet> was about ready to buy her a whole new resovoir and pump but then i blew it in it a few times and problem fixed
21:44:50 <cpet> :P
21:45:44 <cpet> need to see what causing my gfx to crash
21:53:06 <ant-x> Matt|home, I have had my share of kitchen failiures myself, some of them not overcome still.
22:44:14 <Matt|home> https://i.ibb.co/r2XLnx9W/IMG-20251210-173657.jpg <-- this is good sandwich bread i made but i made three solid errors.. 1) waaaaay too much salt. 2) definitely wanted more open crumb structure and less springy but it's fine, this will toast well. 3) gonna add clean label preservatives next to get a much, much better rise hopefully
23:50:39 <Macer> 69.2T / 69.2T copied at 339M/s, 99.91% done, 00:03:14 to go second raidz expansion is almost done :)
23:52:59 <uskerine> hi, I would like to create a pkg, for my own use, it is a small tool
23:53:31 <uskerine> can anyone recommend a good and simple reference for a simple case (no dependencies, just installing the binaries and a couple of man pages)