00:01:00 SponiX: i always figured the (RENEWED) drives were smr lol 00:23:13 Macer: I've eBay purchased lots of refurbished, renewed, and straight up USED drives without getting anything SMR. I do always research them to be sure though. And yeah, most of them I got at $10/TB or Under 00:26:11 I may have to try that some day. 00:26:37 I mean I have 3TB drives that have literally like 12 years of run time. 00:27:09 I miss actual hitachi drives. :( 00:46:55 Macer: IBM deskstar's :) 00:47:10 the ones that you dropped once the glass platters would goto shit :D 00:47:42 but I think they are now rebranded hitachi drives ? 00:48:12 i know Lenovo bought IBM's computer biz, and some other company bought there storage 00:49:57 I'm contemplating removing the HDD from the pool 00:51:13 my pool has 3 NVE's 1 SSD and 1 HDD 00:51:15 heh 00:51:53 it may soon be just 1 NVE as I may install freebsd on this mini PC as I want to play games again :( 00:59:22 *nvme 01:01:11 emvn 01:02:07 always thats one person 01:11:12 i have a ryzen system with freebsd on it that's just sitting in cold storage because i don't really need it right now and it only has 12 hotswap bays 01:11:17 For my personal use for larger storage I have been buying used SAS drives from datacenter recyclers. Those have seen what I could call gentle use in a rack and not bouncing around someone's basement. So far I have yet to have any of those used SAS drives fail. And I have redundancy and backups when inevitably one does. 01:11:44 i'd really like to get that thing going but i'd want to put those 16 2.5" hotswap bays in it and just start scaling up SSDs in it 01:13:58 SSDs are not perfect. And in many ways spinning disks can be more reliable and have been more reliable. In total numbers I have seen a lot of SSD failures. But those were all lessor vendors. But SSDs are not without their failures too. 01:14:22 https://www.amazon.com/ICY-DOCK-ToughArmor-MB508SP-B-Backplane/dp/B077Z7FQ43 01:14:26 like i'd want to get 5 of those 01:14:47 rwp: yeah i'm sure anything can break but at least seek times would be lower lol 01:15:18 One of the SSD soft points is long term data archive storage. If the data is not active for a long time it will degrade. This is actually a strong point when coupled with zfs because if there is a localized failure due to data decay then zfs will heal it from one of the redundant blocks. 01:16:35 cold storage right? 01:16:42 i guess it has to stay charged up 01:16:48 I have experienced the problem of NAND storage decay on laptops. At least two laptops that were powered off for a couple of years and then would not boot due to non-system disk failure. Did a rescue read-write pass over the NAND flash and after the complete rewrite of all data then it recovered and appeared perfectly functional again. 01:17:29 i've had that happen with usb thumb drives i left in drawers.. they wouldn't function at all though 01:17:55 but i probably wouldn't use SSDs for cold storage.. if that were the case i'd probably consider something like tape 01:17:56 And then in a datacenter setting an Intel SSD with what was probably data completely static for probably several years then turned up with a read failure on a few blocks. Again doing a full read-write pass and then it appeared fully functional again. 01:18:52 i'm running 4 SSDs in my proxmox server raidz ... i'm waiting to see if those ever give me problems 01:19:16 i have all the containers and VMs backed up on platters in 2 separate locations 01:19:28 Mag tape is pretty good for long term storage but it still requires maintenance. I forget the specs now but every three months the spools need to be rotated a quarter turn to help balance out the stretch due to sag while on the spool. And every two years need to be spun off and on again to ensure that the material doesn't become sticky and peel off. Or something similar to that maintenance. It's been a while. 01:19:41 i'm still waiting for the price of 8TB SSDs to drop before i switch 01:20:07 evoprox 14.5T 1.50T 13.0T - - 26% 10% 1.00x ONLINE - 01:20:10 after trimming... 01:20:23 evoprox 14.5T 1.50T 13.0T - - 13% 10% 1.00x ONLINE - 01:20:24 Last I looked the knee of the cost curve for new was between 4TB and 6TB spinning disks. 01:20:39 kind of crazy how trimming reduced fragmentation by 13% 01:21:14 i have a 5th one sitting on a table because the 1u i bought only had 4 hotswap bays 01:21:59 I am a little confused by that fragmentation number too. Because that's the fragmentation zfs sees and trimming or not trimming should not be affecting its fragmentation. 01:22:16 rwp: yeah. i trimmed and it dipped to 13% 01:22:23 Weird! 01:22:25 i was a little confused about that too lol 01:22:37 i mean it's free space fragmentation right? 01:22:51 so i guess trimming just freed blocks so the free space is no longer fragmented? 01:22:51 like regular trim /dev/device? Not zpool/zfs scrub ? 01:22:56 zpool trim 01:23:01 but free space is free space, regardless of whether it's trimmed 01:23:21 Oh, I've never did a zpool trim, I've only had zfs on spinners lol 01:25:19 ivy: not sure... https://pastebin.com/6sEbEJiS 01:25:22 that's what happened though 01:26:00 SponiX: i typically only run containers 01:26:07 but i guess with VMs you also have to trim within the VM 01:27:38 what ever happened to HAMR drives? 01:27:49 i thought that was going to be the next great breakthrough in higher density disks? 01:28:04 probably just as groundbreaking as smr :/ 01:28:09 Macer: i thought they appeared a few months back, aren't Seagate's latest 24TB+ disks HAMR? 01:28:34 oh are they? i didn't see them listed anywhere. but given how well these seagate smr drives worked for me... 01:28:35 the actual real-world increase in capacity seems to be less than the marketing claims would have led you to believe though 01:28:51 HAMR isn't like SMR, the performance characteristics should be the same as CMR, aiui 01:29:10 ah, 30TB: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/07/seagates-massive-30tb-600-hard-drives-are-now-available-for-anyone-to-buy/ 01:29:45 the article specifically notes they are CMR, not SMR 01:31:21 superheated cmr though :) 01:31:53 i wonder if i could achieve the same results by letting my drives run at 200C 01:32:08 i'm thinking not, but if you try, please record video 01:32:13 lol 01:32:41 who needs science when you can use alchemy? 01:33:28 this ... Seagate’s press release is focused mostly on the large drives’ suitability for AI-related data storage 01:33:41 🤦🏼‍♂️ 01:39:34 hi. 02:03:04 Matt|home, do you have a question? Custom here is to ask directly and wait for someone who can answer. 02:34:01 nope. 03:06:48 * V_PauAmma_V nods. 03:07:53 I should make a bug report tomorrow about that WiFi driver thing 03:12:24 I'm nervous though 03:13:09 I've never done a mailing list before 03:14:28 I'm triple checking to make sure no one has posted it yet but im still worried 03:18:51 Sounds like you've done your due diligence and can open a report, just make sure it is clear how to reproduce the bug and include as much logs as you can 03:19:49 I need an account for the bugzilla right? 03:19:53 Yep 03:19:55 Yes. 03:22:35 And the way I see it, if someone posted about the same thing before and you couldn't find it, the symptoms or related information are different enough that it's worth to post it anyway. 03:24:14 This was a helpful video that I found. I never actually submitted the report but it might help someone else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fwfRoDt9bQ 09:25:15 anyone run into problems trying to boot the amd64 14.3 disc1 installer on amd epyc servers? i see boot menu, autoboot starts, then when it starts booting installer it says panic: madt_parse_apics: double apic id 241 09:50:12 Hi! Has anyone figured out how to update a (fresh) 15.0-RELEASE pkgbase installation to stable/15? I've modified /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf and 'pkg repositories' show the correct urls. pkg always reports "Repository FreeBSD-base has a wrong packagesite, need to re-create database". 09:51:32 zapata: show the contents of /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf, any files in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repoes, and the full output of 'pkg update' 09:51:36 kerneldove: i'd try updating bios on that server, that tables comes from acpi and error seems to be non-recoverable 09:57:25 ok ty i'll try that 09:57:29 ivy: privatebin OK? https://privatebin.net/?64733e3f2943dd52#GXpFnxTEC8x3EE8fkYFdKJYFCHjVmDMuyLNBCvoKKHw2 09:58:43 ivy: pkg now shows: No trusted public keys found. 09:59:43 zapata: change the signing keys for FreeBSD-base to /usr/share/keys/pkg, the same as FreeBSD-ports. releases uses a different signing key to stable 10:03:03 ivy: Thanks alot. The error is gone. 'pkg upgrade -f' seems to work now. 11:07:42 ok tried cyric and we're already on latest bios 11:07:48 is hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" bad to use? 11:41:08 V_PauAmma_V: alright thanks 12:16:49 im having problems upgrading my jails, root@:/home/sopparus # freebsd-version -u 12:16:49 14.3-RELEASE-p2 12:16:49 root@:/home/sopparus # freebsd-update -r 15.0-RELEASE upgrade 12:16:49 src component not installed, skipped 12:16:49 freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 15.0-RELEASE to itself 12:16:49 root@:/home/sopparus # 12:16:58 -b on host have the same problem 12:17:20 only the host is 15.0 not the jail! 12:20:32 are you running that in the jail? just run it from the host with -j 12:25:39 sopparus: also is your host running 15? 12:26:12 jails are upper bound by the Host.. so if host is on 14.3 jails can be no higher than that version 12:33:16 Amazon failed me yesterday. My 2 hard drives did not arrive and I got the "we're sorry" email. 12:33:22 Hopefully they arrive today. 12:34:03 same thing happened to me last week and when it finally arrived it was just a box of incense.. 12:37:24 Macer: are you a prime member? if you are a prime member.. you can request a deduction in costs.. 12:47:39 voy4g3r2: yes host is 15.00 12:47:41 .0 12:47:52 isley: on jail 12:48:22 run it on the host with -j jid 12:48:58 yes, what isley said 12:49:18 freebsd-update -j -r 15.0-RELEASE upgrade 12:49:42 https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/jails/#jails-updating 13:06:47 ah yes and if you have multiple jails, don't run freebsd-update in parallel for them :p 13:07:01 or you'll at least need to define different working directories for each I suppose 13:11:48 cd - 13:11:54 err, oops :D 14:45:37 hmm weird 14:45:47 so I copied /usr/obj over to a jail to update it 14:45:51 but then I get: 14:45:53 cc: error: no such file or directory: 'ERROR-tried-to-rebuild-during-make-install' 14:47:53 the commit built and the commit using make installworld from are the same 14:50:48 polarian: because the timestamps make it think it needs to rebuild things 14:50:59 kevans: the fix? 14:51:51 for local system? I'd probably just null-mount both src and obj trees 14:52:21 admittedly i personally just rely on binary upgrades for jails, while hosts remain source-based (but pkgbase distributed from my local infra) 14:52:50 kevans: nullfs for jails would be annoying tho :/ 14:53:13 ohhhhh.. 14:53:21 I finally understand why nfs 14:53:26 nfs doesnt modify the mtime 14:53:34 so when you mount it the makefile doesnt get confused 14:53:51 er, why would nullfs for jails be annoying? 14:53:59 kevans: means editing the config :) 14:54:02 im lazy 14:54:10 is there no flag to just "skip-rebuild" 14:54:15 or "install-anyway" :P 14:54:50 --i-am-not-an-idiot-please-install-anyways-and-ignore-mtime :) 14:55:59 --enable=true --disable=c:\windows\twain_32.dll 14:57:05 anwyays I guess nullfs is better anyways, no need to move obj around :P 14:57:36 also I just realised I only need the nullfs mount when I am updating, which is manual anyways so I can just mount it when needed 14:57:39 * polarian is an idiot 14:57:54 no need to edit the jail config to have a persistent mount 14:58:25 polarian: nah, such an option would fundamentally break how make(1) operates and people would get angry 14:59:17 kevans: what exactly is make doing though, I know it checks the time of the last build in the metadata, when it checks the mtime and sees it doesn't matches so then rebuilds? 14:59:45 it's an easy comparison between mtimes in the object tree and mtimes of the files it depends on in the src tree to determine if the objects are outdated 14:59:56 also while talking about the makefile, is there ever a reason to cleanworld and then rebuild (apart from development reasons), is using the cached objects and only compiling changes always the better option? 15:00:14 kevans: ohhh right, thats obvious xD 15:00:17 im stupid 15:00:27 some src.conf(5) options break ABI and would necessitate it, but we've been moving towards a world where everyone does incremental by default because it's ssafe 15:00:49 wait so... doesn't that technically mean that not using git then would cause obj rebuild? 15:00:59 wait git will still have different mtimes 15:01:05 so I need to mount the host /usr/src too 15:01:24 yeah, git doesn't track mtimes like that 15:01:49 yea I am aware, it was oversight :P 15:01:50 or rsync, cp -p or something to sync times 15:02:10 well I dont believe there is a guide on "deploying your own src builds to other systems" in the handbook 15:02:21 so cant blame me for being stoopid :P 15:03:13 i typically try not to assume baseline knowledge in channels like this, and i also try not to be an ass when i'm not assuming baseline knowledge to avoid offending (but it doesn't always work) 15:04:02 i mean, i know i've seen you around for quite a while, but i also don't pay much attention these days 15:04:07 lol 15:04:18 just because I have been around doesnt mean I cant be an idiot :P 15:04:57 hmm 15:04:59 install: rename: /lib/INS@muiMNy to /lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted 15:05:05 hah :-) 15:05:18 still doesnt work ugh 15:05:59 its root, I see no reason why it cant 15:07:41 ohhh you can do it from the host... 15:07:50 I guess the jail might not have all the permissions needed to modify itself? 15:09:12 can't believe the 14.3 installer panicked on startup on this epyc server. like wtf 15:10:58 lol 15:11:06 kerneldove: why not 15.0? 15:11:36 if you are doing a fresh install surely its best to use the latest release, and not have to update to 15.x by mid-2026 15:12:12 it was the newest iso in the library at the hosting company 15:12:17 otherwise i woulda for sure 15:12:23 i got 15 running everywhere else 15:15:12 I have found the distributeworld task in build(7) so lets see if this lets me update the damn jail 15:15:24 kerneldove: what company (just curious) 15:17:42 polarian: why not just use DESTDIR from the host? 15:18:25 Koston: yeah I have figured it out after reading the man page more 15:18:29 whats distributeworld for then? 15:19:21 ah for releases, although I assume I can distributeworld, then tarball it and then copy this to another server and extract it into / 15:19:35 although then I would also need to clean up all the old files still which the tarball cant do hmmm 15:39:41 * kenrap thinks nullfs/unionfs are a "devsend" 15:49:48 So I replaced SSLH with HA-Proxy due to stability reasons but an unexpected side benefit has been that the response times are much faster with ha-proxy. When I did an SSH connection from my ipad to my home via cellular, with sslh in the middle it would take a good 10-11 seconds before the password prompt popped up whereas with ha-proxy this is instant. I had always thought that it was due to cloudflare 15:49:54 handling DNS for me and doing "stuff" in the middle, but turns out it was SSLH. Something to investigate. 15:51:38 just an fyi for folks :-) 15:57:32 voy4g3r2: yes I am. I should see if that’s an option lol. 15:58:16 It was put for delivery at 5PM. And had a latest delivery at 10PM… and never showed up. lol 16:13:07 anybody running 15.0-RELEASE and signal-desktop ? mine crashes on startup :-( 16:13:45 "Render process is gone [...] exit code 134" 16:14:19 i'm so annoyed with signal :P 16:14:47 polarian: when installing world, some files/directories are given special flags with chflags(1). this can fail if your install target doesn't support those special attributes. just FYI - it's not relevant if you do things by the book, but something people regularly run into when they get creative 16:14:48 it's the least bad messenger i can recommend to end users, but the outrageous electron app needing a full gui to just the desktop app is stupid 16:14:56 this is why open protocols are superior to platforms 16:15:00 +1 16:15:08 IIRC there's a TUI for signal now in ports 16:15:16 i use xmpp when i can, but it drives me nuts i can't use irssi with signal 16:15:24 dch: yeah, scli. i'm on 14.3 and it doesnt' work 16:15:28 it didn't work in 13 either 16:15:32 libsignal keeps changing 16:15:35 and it's a hack 16:15:43 Demosthenex: this one https://www.freshports.org/net-im/gurk-rs/ 16:15:51 I didn't try it yet but maybe I need to 16:15:57 hrm. gurk? that's new 16:16:04 yeah 16:18:01 hrm, that's promising 16:18:05 looks like profanity 16:19:24 so what to do 16:19:59 dch: as to signal desktop, no idea what a render process is 16:21:09 hm i lost my byhve usb passthourgh with 15.0, can i go back to 14.3 without reinstall? i cant turn off my lamps atm! :) 16:21:45 Ot only the kernel if possible 16:22:29 You can't have 15.0 userland and a 14.3 kernel, I think. (The reverse is possible.) 16:22:31 * deconfed figuring 16:22:38 :( 16:50:28 I've just packbasify my 14.3p6 install with the lua script, now I would like to upgrade to 15.0 I couldn't find any info on the release notes for the upgrade. Should I follow the steps from the pkgbase wiki? https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/pkgbase?action=show&redirect=PkgBase#Major_version_upgrades 17:04:19 aww. gruk signal CLI is actually a TUI. :( 17:07:01 Hrm... I managed to botch something up during an upgrade. 17:08:22 gurk* 17:17:54 s2r: Yes, but I would for sure make backups of anything important prior to attempting that 17:30:01 sopparus, Boot Environments? You could boot the previous 14 environment and that would take all of kernel, base, and /usr/local ports back to before the upgrade? 17:32:01 rwp: That's what I'm struggling with at the moment. Even previous boot environments aren't booting. 17:32:25 It's really strange. Still digging. 17:41:04 Huh. All of a sudden the wifi is working 17:41:15 But still spits errors 17:41:41 Thank goodness for live usb! 17:49:16 ek, Previous Boot Environments are not booting? Has anyone reported that the new 15R bootcode won't boot 14? That would a problem for me for certain. 17:53:21 Hello. What's is the best way to do a diskless setup for freebsd? I've set up a nfs in /stranger/diskless_bsd, and trying to boot it with loader.efi but it hangs while saying it is using "net0". I'd like to know if it is possible to do this using iPXE isntead of my dhcp server. But it seems like as loader.efi sends a DHCP packet it will ignore iPXE's set root-path and set dhcp.root-path 17:53:56 saya99: i use ipxe, both on a bhyve vm and hardware 17:54:13 Do you have a diskless setup? 17:54:17 Can you send your configuration files, or a guide? 17:54:42 i followed mostly `man diskless` 17:54:57 let me boot the master and check some things 17:55:01 And the wifi is broken again. This is weird 17:55:41 I have followed diskless(8), indeed, seems like my problem is at the DHCP server/loader.efi 17:57:42 is your autoexec.ipxe loading? 17:58:07 Sure, but I have it configured to load menu.ipxe instead of autoexec.ipxe. environment reasons 17:58:31 the iPXE server works perfectly, I can load linux distros in iSCSIs target perfectly 17:58:55 so i `chain tftp:// /boot/pxeboot || chain tftp:// /boot/loader.efi` in mine 17:59:22 and of course copy /boot into /tftpdir 17:59:36 AH. i see. I'll try doing that, thanks! 18:00:15 bhyve could load loader.efi directly, my intel card it was too big, so that's why i did the pxeboot first 18:03:09 Nope, seems like it isn't working yet. Do I have to make changes to my DHCP server configuration? 18:04:32 my dhcpd.conf: https://bsd.ac/muvx21w 18:10:50 Okay, I changed the set-root at the beggining for tftp and the loader worked. which is gnostic. Now I have problems with NFS ^^; 18:12:24 yeah, i had `filename "tftp:// /autoexec.ipxe" in dhcpd.conf 18:13:51 you can probably get it from here; i had a couple scripts to jail into /diskless/hostname to do things like install packages or installworld 18:14:50 rwp: Yep. Super strange. If it weren't such a detrimental system, I'd have gathered more info for a possible bug report. 18:15:24 But, choosing a BE during boot in order to "rollback" wouldn't work. Tons of signal 12 messages. 18:16:28 Booting from a live USB and chroot'ing in and activating an old BE worked fine, though (thankfully). 18:17:34 rtprio: I could make the diskless freebsd boot. Thanks for your Enlightment 18:17:36 https://javierramos.es/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Quien-era-Hermes-Trismegisto.jpg 18:24:37 Now it seems I cannot lock databases... lockd and statd are running in my server 18:25:54 * wavefunction prays to the freebsd-update gods 18:27:01 zfs set sharenfs=-alldirs,-maproot=root,-network=192.168.0.0/16 stranger/diskless_bsd 18:27:04 wavefunction: good luck :D 18:46:14 * wavefunction cheers from his v15 system 18:46:26 :) me too! 18:46:34 Thinking of upgrading my VPS as well 18:46:35 o/ 18:52:44 just checked, after upgrade to 15.0-REL I don't actually have even access to previous boot environments via the bootloader 18:53:06 menu says default is "3 of 5" but pressing 4 or 5 doesn't do anything at all lol 18:54:08 only previous one available to boot via the menu is an intermediate 15.0-REL one which I assume only has 15.0 kernel but 14.3 userland 18:55:40 not a problem as such, this server is not yet in production and 15.0 is working fine so far. just got curious reading the channel backlog and wanted to test 18:57:36 Koston, I assume that is after updating efi/gptzfs 18:58:44 presumably? I'm not very well educated on what freebsd-update(8) does under the hood 18:59:05 all I did was standard freebsd-update and pkg-static upgrade -f business, nothing else 18:59:10 AFAICT it doesn't update the boot partitions 18:59:46 on zfs? 18:59:49 yep 18:59:51 so I installed windows on the desktop and played doom3 for like a coulple hours cause why not. then I added a nvem drive the mni PC, installed xorg, firefox, kde screen would turn pink, messing with it some more screen would turn pink, I google and intel said it could be cause by driver or cable issue 19:00:01 so I decided to change out the cable 19:00:06 no more pink screen 19:00:27 never had a cable go bad but i guess first time for all the things 19:00:55 this box was originally a 14.3-REL install, only updated to latest -p5/-p6 before 15.0. haven't updated bootcode or zfs since install. 19:01:32 i have never updated boot code n any install 19:02:27 I have, but only when either instructed by UPDATING or other issues forcing to 19:02:52 .oO(what is the UPDATING I'm supposed to read when using freebsd-update anyway) 19:03:27 jesus one of then .oO people heh 19:04:15 I'm part of a movement, man 19:05:28 i started using IRC when you had to telnet into it 19:08:13 but now we have modern clients with mnemonics. what a time to be alive 19:08:47 what are thought bubbles 19:09:37 On my NAS at home I've been upgrading this machine since 8.0... so I decided to do a fresh install. Time to clean up some cruft. 19:16:45 well, here we go. 14.3-REL boot environment starts up fine, just needed to boot it up manually via loader 19:18:00 I guess I should file a bug about it tomorrow. bed now -> 19:21:45 upgrading to 15-REL takes a bit of planning here, 14 jails, upgrading all the packages 19:22:32 I've done quite a few, just kind of winging it, it's been fine. 19:23:42 Koston, As I recall (would need to check) the 'B' or the number key is hit repeatedly to cycle through the list of Boot Environments. There is no shortcut number to get to boot environments beyond it. Hitting the BE number repeatedly cycles through the list of them. 20:10:18 freebsd works for amazon now, great 20:13:40 yes, it works basicaly for everyone who accepts its work 20:48:48 I am using FreeBSD and have set an interface to be "DHCP" in my rc.conf, how can I also pass flags to the ifconfig at the same time as using "DHCP"? 20:49:46 My beginner approach of 'ifconfig_igc0="DHCP -lro"' did not work 21:02:02 I don't know but I was curious so I looked into it, and it appears to be handled in /etc/network.subr around L167 and looks like it should work - did you try to place the options first ? (Before DHCP) 21:03:16 Many thanks, I will try 21:03:52 I don't know either and was also curious and have been looking but I think DHCP is a pseudo argument to switch to starting dhclient on the interface. And so I think the solution is to have dhclient do it. 21:05:07 dhclient has dhclient.conf but no facility to add optional flags to ifconfig. But it calls dhclient-script which sources /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks if it exists. 21:06:37 I think I would try calling "ifconfig igc0 -lro" in /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks and seeing if that does what you want. 21:14:44 @o0x1eef Unfortunately this approach did not work, but thanks for looking 21:14:59 @rwp Using the dhclient-script approach worked, many thanks 21:15:13 That's great to hear :) 21:15:24 Sorry for the disconnect/reconnects, was rebooting the router 21:16:20 I guess I could use opnsense/pfsense, but thought it would be more fun to hand build something and use kea + bind. 21:19:39 That was my approach and reasoning, too. I bought a pfSense router, then wiped it with stock OpenBSD. 21:24:12 I have this cheap mini PC with an Intel N150 CPU in it and 4x i226-V, I have played with a few different OS on it, and for some strange reason, Windows Server with routing and NAT enabled, gives the fastest internet speed. Tinkering with FreeBSD on it to see if I can match it. Not sure if its something to do with proprietary drivers. 21:29:49 I noticed on Windows and Linux I was able to set tx and rx ring buffers for the network adapters, is this something that can be done in FreeBSD. 22:02:16 nicks, Yay! Glad that worked. It was a new problem. 22:44:28 nice. new drives showed. and it's amazing that the CMR drive is going 1GiB/s and will be done in hours vs the SMR drive that took 5 days to resilver 22:44:30 what a world we live in 22:47:31 How did you end up with the SMR drive in the first place? 22:48:13 i had old barracudas in a drawer and a drive died .. although i still have some of those in the pool and never really had problems with them 22:48:21 Ah 22:48:26 didn't realize it was smr lol 22:49:51 I've had some Barracudas in the past, but they were made before they came up with the SMR nonsense 23:04:13 it has become quite the hindrance for me 23:04:45 i was just expanding the raidz2 vdev and 2 of them just died on me during reflow. i think i'm going to be at the point where they'll all die off and i'll wind up replacing them all one by one and i think i still have 6 left 23:05:24 17.1T / 69.2T copied at 30.6M/s, 24.71% done, paused for resilver or clear <- it only made it to 25% 23:05:39 i'm hoping that the one in the drawer (which failed right after it resilvered) just had issues and the rest can grind through 23:06:02 that probably explains why it was in the drawer :)