01:20:18 the 8080 01:24:44 cpet: I think you could use `pkg install -g FreeBSD-*` to do what you want 01:32:13 thats wasnt for me 01:32:52 Although I recall there is a `bsdinstall pkgbase` command when I was testing pkgbase in a jail and it installed the right amount of packages. I think bsdinstall can have its env vars configured to install at the root dir. Haven't tried that though and might not be safe. 01:33:00 cpet: gotcha, sorry 01:37:04 cybercrypto: ping 01:46:52 I ran into this annoying bug with pkgbase though: https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2517 01:50:35 how is that a bug if they basically gave various ways to remove sendmail ? 01:51:08 the issues with pkgs is you either use it or you dont and its not meant to be a workaround for customized installed or people who want to customize 01:51:24 and people will still complain about the weirdest opf issues 01:51:41 such as installing freebsd-pkg-man instals 2kb more than before why? 01:53:14 does anyone know if the newer iwlwifi chipsets are supported on freebsd with hostapd in sta mode? 01:53:37 which newer chipset 01:54:10 cpet: I triggered that bug in a different way, but I don't recall what I did exactly. 01:54:16 any of the 802.11ac ones 01:55:04 maybe the ax210? 01:57:26 https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/sys/contrib/dev/iwlwifi/cfg/ax210.c 01:59:59 right, it's supported but, what about sta mode? I want to use it as an AP on a FreeBSD system 02:01:10 and, does it work in sta mode with 802.11ac configurations 02:05:11 error: did you mean `--depth` (with two dashes)? 02:05:13 hah 02:12:04 well greping the code the onyl thing I see is sta_id 02:12:59 there should be a man page entry that states what does a chipset supports along with the caveats (e.g. 802.11n/g only or what have you). I swear once upon a time there was... 02:13:29 kungfujesus: that kind of stuff is typically proprietary 02:13:50 im still confised as to why im greping code 02:14:15 cpet: greping? as in using grep? 02:14:58 it shows imilarities doesnt it ? 02:16:07 yeah but for the same purpose you can use less too 02:16:33 i was greping for sta in the iwlwifi code 02:17:13 currently, I've been stuck on an 802.11n atheros chipset (ath9k based) for over a decade. I've been waiting forever for ath10k support but it seems like that may never come. I use hostapd with a nanobsd system as a wireless bridge. There's been a lot of press lately about 802.11ac _finally_ being supported but from what I can remember only in client mode 02:17:25 I'd like to know if that situation has changed 02:18:57 the Intel iwlwifi driver was chosen to be used to develop 802.11ac station support. In addition to user-requests, the Dual-License of the newer driver parts (we can simply take the BSD license code, whereas we cannot take any GPL-only code into the tree anymore), already support for 11ax, the clean code structure, previous examples of ports of older versions of the driver, the ability to distribute 02:19:02 dont fancy running alpine linux in a bhyve vm with device passthrough to get half decent wireless speeds? :D https://github.com/pgj/freebsd-wifibox 02:19:03 firmware, .. all played into the decision, 02:19:06 https://wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi 02:19:08 google is hard 02:19:47 mjp: I do not, hah. I remember seeing that but I also recall that somehow the LinuxKPI stuff made that obsolete? 02:19:57 kungfujesus: you have to expect the maker to do the firmware for you 02:20:14 scottpedia: firmware is included ind river 02:20:31 it's already a bliss if you get that for Linux 02:20:31 cpet: Googling _this_ stuff is hard. It seems like Google has gotten worse at indexing these things and definite sources of information for this stuff (apart from being incredibly familiar with the source code) is hard to come by 02:20:54 blame the user not the machine 02:20:59 cpet: yeah that's what I am saying they don't do the driver for every OS and for every chipset 02:22:27 yeah that wiki article is all out of date, right? It says 802.11ac support is pending 02:22:56 you know you can boot the OS install and test this right ? 02:24:08 I'm deciding whether or not to buy it 02:25:11 buy it test it then return it if it dont work 02:25:12 heh 02:26:17 this seems like a pretty big ask when I'm all I'm asking is if it's notionally supported. I don't get why this isn't documented anywhere to reflect the current state of development 02:26:41 wiki mentions supports devices 02:27:32 in what modes? Am I going to need to do some franken Linux thing like freebsd-wifibox does? 02:28:16 go email adrian@ who is the wifi guru and ask 02:28:21 or ill email him and ask for you heh 02:29:16 seems more likely to answer you than me 02:29:27 why? 02:31:08 one day ill understand why people are afraid to submit PR and email developers directly 02:31:26 as long as its freebsd related and generalized im sure any dev will respond 02:32:07 I'm not afraid but I do have a vague recollection of sending him a question once and never getting a reply 02:32:32 done 02:32:34 see what he says 02:32:55 sctually 02:34:30 lets ask in freebsd-wireless 04:49:42 is virtiofs supported in FreeBSD (or at least planned?) 04:50:14 or do i have to keep my linux+sshfs setup for host data 04:56:07 swee: v9fs is supported 04:57:33 mzar: ah, so virtio-9p? 04:58:16 mzar: v9fs has been supported for, like, a decade, sir. 04:58:21 yes, it should be supported 04:59:13 yes 04:59:33 do i need to install any separate packages, and is it set up like in Linux? 05:02:29 I don't know how to set it up in Linux, but for FreeBSD there is man page p9fs(4) 05:02:36 i.e. /hostshare /mnt/hostfs 9p trans=virtio,version=9p2000.L 0 0 05:02:39 in fstab 05:04:02 swee: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=p9fs&apropos=0&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+15.0-STABLE&arch=default&format=html 05:07:29 # mount -t p9fs /hostshare ./test 05:07:29 mount: /hostshare: Invalid fstype: Invalid argument 05:07:33 Yeah. Even supported in bhyve now. That's pretty awesome. I tried to boot a p9 VM a while back and it didn't work. Moving forward! 05:09:59 https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/c3500867594bca51/image.png https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/ea726796c904a547/image.png 05:10:12 swee: Have you loaded the virtio_p9fs kernel module? 05:10:37 kldload: can't load virtio_p9fs: No such file or directory 05:11:19 did I miss a FreeBSD update or something? 05:11:42 What version of FBSD? 05:11:46 14.3 05:12:17 it's latest production version, that's for sure 05:12:25 Ah. Might be why. I believe 15 is the latest to provide the kern module by default. 05:12:53 14 you can build the module into the kernel. 05:13:22 Just give it a few weeks and 15.0-RELEASE will be available and it will be included without have to build a custom kernel. 05:13:48 i did try building that module and loading it last time, someone here helped me 05:14:06 KLD virtio_p9fs.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch 05:14:11 on other VM 05:16:30 i guess for now i'll keep using linux + sshfs lol 05:16:37 in a separate vm 05:16:55 why dont you just recompile the module 05:17:03 i forgot how to 05:18:07 swee: You rebuilt the kernel and userland for the p9 support? 05:18:17 What, exactly, did you do? 05:18:19 ek: no just the module 05:18:56 Ah, okay. There's likely additional code that needs to be compiled for the kernel to support the p9 module. 05:19:25 If you add the p9 option the kernel and rebuild it (fully), it will include everything you need and it should load just fine. 05:19:44 ... well, provided the build/install is successful. 05:19:54 is it difficult to rebuild kernel 05:20:03 Not at all. 05:20:12 p9 should work when module is loaded, if FreeBSD version is fresh enough 05:21:03 kldload virtio_p9fs 05:21:06 mzar: 14.x doesn't have the p9 module. 15.x only (I guess?) 05:21:11 ek: like... is it as difficult (and maybe time consuming) as building the linux kernel 05:21:31 so you compile a kernel module made for 15.x on 14.x ? 05:21:38 then comaplin when you get an error as the above 05:21:39 heh 05:21:48 swee: It's actually much easier, really. 05:21:51 https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig/ 05:22:13 You just choose what you do and do not want from a flat-file with comments and just build it. 05:22:20 ek: ha... you are right 05:22:29 Linux has always confused the hell outta me. 05:22:45 ek gets confused by just being ek 05:23:03 I get confused by the fact I know cpet. :) 05:23:15 dont hate 05:23:19 dunno, am a noob at the BSDs lol 05:23:43 where did you download this so called module 05:24:04 swee: That's fair. It's why the handbook, forums, and IRC exist. Questions are acceptable. 05:25:06 cpet: i think building with /usr/src 05:25:34 we cant help you if you dont even know what you did 05:25:48 seems like it would better if you just updated to 15.0-RC4 05:26:26 fusefs-sshfs-3.7.5 05:26:34 or use that until 15.0 is out 05:26:42 if what you want is the same thing 05:26:55 that's what I'm currently using as a workaround so far 05:28:30 kernel modules want the same kernel and the same userland 05:28:42 even if the module compiles it will still comaplin cause the kernels dont match 05:29:34 right, TIL 05:31:00 would probably be better to just update vs hacking the system 05:32:44 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:32:58 what the hell is that 05:38:42 my irc client has a plugin to make things rainbow so i aliased /gayshrug -> /prism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:52:23 hrm 05:54:29 this channel has +c which blocks colours 05:54:33 so your message was boring 05:56:04 didn't notice lol 05:58:44 Might've been boring, but it still presents as expected on irssi/bitchx/weechat... 05:59:01 It's the simple shrugging chars. 05:59:33 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ : shrugging guy? 06:12:06 is it normal not to have any chat history for example of this channel except my own exchange 06:12:21 ? 06:18:05 v01d: I suppose it depends on your IRC client. I have all history without any problem. 06:19:49 Wait. Are you talking about when you close your client and open it back up to connect at a later time? You're expecting data that your client wasn't there to collect? Like a cache history that would be dumped to you? 06:21:53 ... kinda like Slack or Discord? If so, yes. Totally expected. IRC is a one way street. Either your client gets the data or it doesn't. It needs to be present. There is no backlog dump when you reconnect. 06:25:46 ok thanks sharing with meI did not know 06:26:26 so right now there is no other activity on this channel than you and me? 06:27:36 I use goguma I'm writing to you from android phone 06:59:00 ? 07:03:29 swee: yes, updating to 15.0 RC will be good step forward 08:47:35 can we install somehow the freebsd manpage through termux on Android phones 08:48:09 it would be real nice 08:48:25 to have them like that 09:40:34 sure, you can, you need android SGML reader 09:41:26 v01d: are you a FreeBSD user ? 10:12:01 yes iam a freebsd user 11:47:41 mzar: please elaborate 12:03:24 5 12:03:27 (woops) 12:11:06 What are the benefits of running a VM using bhyve versus libvirt/qemu? 12:17:55 libvirt is just a way of managing different VM frameworks, even over a network; it has, iirc, a backend for bhyve and is thus usable with a freebsd hypervisor. 12:18:05 none of those are comparable to each other. bhyve is a catch-all name for freebsd's hypervisor (the vmm + libvmm + the userspace virtio bits/cli tool). qemu is an emulator that can use a hypervisor for acceleration, which could be done through bhyve's bits (although there is currently no support for that in qemu sadly) and libvirt is a configuration tool to manage VMs that can use either of the two 12:18:30 JetpackJackson: Bhyve benefits from the attention of the FreeBSD project directly, instead of relying on third-party software. Moreover, libvirt can use bhyve as a driver :) 12:24:19 Oh ok 12:24:30 I guess I was confused on my terminology 12:25:01 So like I could use bhyve to run Linux-only programs if needed? And i could use a VM that isn't Ubuntu? 12:26:44 yeah, although keep in mind that you won't get "fast" graphics as it will go over vnc 12:26:51 you can likely run a lot of linux stuff via linuxulator though 12:27:39 JetpackJackson: which programs are you thinking of? Sometimes they can use the linux compatibility layers offered by FreeBSD (I'm thinking especially of htop) 12:28:12 Well currently orca slicer cause its a bit buggy in wine 12:28:22 They only have appimage and flatpak 12:28:39 Ran into issues with both in linuxulator chroot 12:33:40 On my Linux system for school I had to run virtualbox and unityhub and was able to use the AUR for that (even though I dislike it) and I can use distrobox and flatpak too so I'm trying to figure out what my "fallback" options are on FreeBSD I guess 12:33:57 Like flatpak and distrobox are my fallbacks when I'm on chimera 12:35:29 sounds like your production machine should stay on linux for now? 12:36:14 did i or my useful idiots ever rant about our project to port ifupdown-ng to freebsd and its workalikes? we realize it's wholly redundant but we thought it'd be cool as a tech demonstrator. we never got it past a truly horrendous pre-alpha stage 12:39:51 LxGHTNxNG: yeah I mean I'm not changing anything until I graduate cause this Linux laptop is my main machine but I like to make sure all my bases are covered before distro hopping 12:42:28 you can always just run freebsd in a headless vm 12:43:30 Yeah I am but im a bit low on space so I haven't given the VM much space 12:43:55 Plus that doesn't give me the opportunity to test GUI stuff or bhyve 12:47:16 v01d: the concept of FreeBSD user is self-explanatory 12:54:52 has anyone here gotten Steam working in FreeBSD? 12:55:19 when I tried it on 14.3.. the games would just stutter.. it was like watching a slideshow 12:55:32 maybe 15.0 will be better 13:10:17 "has anyone here gotten Steam working in FreeBSD?" I didn't. 13:16:04 macos has rendered at least two of my steam games unplayable 13:16:27 that is a shame 13:39:29 is there someone has latest freebsd handbook in .epub format? 13:40:31 Sorry, I don't have one. 13:41:18 Gocmen: you might want to go to archive.org or libgenesis for that kind of resources 13:44:21 Convert the pdf with Calibre 13:45:16 Gocmen: there is also the utility pandoc.org which may take a little work.. but iha ve used it to do markdown -> pdf with some LaTeX love 13:45:26 it also supports converting to epub format 13:46:38 honestly epub is not the most useful when browing through technical documents 13:46:53 i'd still recommend pdf or even plain text 14:13:53 Surely it's more a question of device than content? I've read technical documents just fine on my kindle 14:51:30 Are all the gotchas with freebsd-update and ssh not working still there or were all those fixed post init. release? 14:52:25 * skered is going to be going from 9.3 to 14.3 stepping thru most of all the point releases. 14:52:53 Wonder if I should restart sshd each time before any reboots. 14:53:03 9.3 ? 14:53:22 THE 9.3. 14:55:10 did you just pull out a machine from the closet from ten years ago and decide to upgrade it 14:55:29 recent-ish freebsd-update restarts sshd for you. anyway, i'd suggest to at least check the logs. 14:56:00 Yeah, this would never be a machine on the Internet that no one wanted to update due to downtime/breakage/cost to update software. 14:57:10 The big issue is that due to the age the VPS can't attach a OOB console to it. 14:57:20 So not having ssh is kinda of a pain. 14:58:16 otis: That's my hope but I just recall a couple updates either between minors or maybe majors where sshd failed to start unless you restarted it before hand. 14:58:40 I get the feeling maybe it was when some keys types were dropped. 15:10:10 well should be exciting 15:13:29 skered: don't you have ipmi console ? 15:13:43 mzar: This is a VM. 15:14:04 And the VNC console make 9.3 crash at startup. 15:14:15 oh.. you need serial console then 15:14:42 I'm using this a reason to upgrade. So I'm not really looking to fix it. 15:14:50 and you dont install fresh because? 15:15:21 why install if he can upgrade 15:15:37 FreeBSD is easily upgradable 15:15:53 mzar: It is until it isn't. But I think it will be fine. 15:16:30 My only issue was is it even possible. Testing a in a vm it seems all the bits are still out there on freebsd-update servers and the sshd things 15:17:34 I just couldn't seem to find out if the sshd issues were fix or if you had to follow post install pre reboot steps to make sure it all worked. 15:17:42 skered: no worries, you can always boot it from another medium, mount under /mnt and issue command "make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt" if you have world and kernel built and accessible via NFS share 15:17:53 FreeBSD is flexible OS with regard to upgrades 15:23:41 skered: does the vm have a zfs or ufs filesystem? 15:24:03 ufs. 15:31:50 is it 32-bit or 64-bit OS skered ? 15:39:06 64. 15:48:22 kinda makes ya wonder why we have so many secueity breaches 15:54:01 There would be fewer security breaches in general if companies update/patch their systems way more often. 15:58:23 mzar: Doing that zpool shrink on prod now. Just installed the SATADOMs and putting it up, ready to transfer the zpool. 15:59:49 nice 16:01:01 FreeBSD is good OS, everything can be done in-place, without reinstall 16:02:32 hardest part was transitioning from 32-bit to 64-bit using self-hosted builds IIRC 16:02:56 s|good|great| :) 16:16:32 when updates come, install them ASAP. my boss refuses to help people at work if their Chrome or FF is out-of-date. 16:33:03 yep, it's even better to run not released yet software than outdated one, running not released code minimises the surface and vector of attack 16:35:03 This upgrade treadmill is exhausting, especially now that new versions come our not once a year, but once a week. 16:36:43 That's why I jumped off -CURRENT. Upgrading all the time is a chore. 16:46:16 it's a pleasure 16:46:46 not everyone enjoys babysitting their computing equipment 16:47:14 unattended upgrades are solving problems 16:47:31 ^ and not creating them? 16:49:01 * DaliborFox would feel very uncomfortable about unattended upgrades breaking things 16:49:05 I just updated my lone desktop FreeBSD system to 14.3-p5, and then ran pkg upgrade to the current quarterly. Result: I can no longer get past sddm. It loops back to the login screen. As this has happened before, I'm suspecting there is a video driver issue. 16:49:45 I forgot to write down notes the last time I had to rebuild the driver. 16:50:32 mariuss: plase go ahead and upgrade to 15.0-RC 16:50:43 it will solve a lot of issues 16:51:31 I wouldn't presume it would fix the video driver issue though 16:51:49 why not 16:51:54 since the issue is most likely that what's in the pkg database is inconsistent with the kernel 16:52:00 mariuss will add Freebsd-ports-kmods 16:52:08 then upgrade 16:52:13 and will be fine 16:52:37 Can you provide instructions? I don't have a desktop FreeBSD system at the moment, so I've forgotten the steps too 16:53:09 sure, there are hundreds of people hanging here, we will guide him 16:54:24 Normal upgrades are no problem. However, all my other FreeBSD boxen are servers, and thus I only run into this issue on this one machine, 16:55:53 IIRC the process is to get the kernel sources and build the kmods agains that. 16:55:54 no worries, you should give a try to 15.0 on this desktop 16:56:06 there is nothing to build 16:56:47 do you have kmods repo in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf ? 16:56:48 OK. As this not a production machine I'll give it a go. 16:57:08 yep, but even with 14.3 it should work 16:57:59 Yes there is a kmods entry in FreeBSD.conf 16:58:37 pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods 16:58:43 please issue this command 17:00:15 Unfortunately, I can't in single user mode: Insufficient privalege to upgrade packages 17:00:38 you can use it in multiuser environemnt 17:01:03 ah.. you have no network ? 17:01:20 How do I get into multiuser mode w/o the GUI? 17:01:22 start the network, make / writeable and go ahead 17:01:54 sure, you are in multiuser without gui, unless you booted into single user 17:02:09 I booted single user 17:02:09 do you have more then one console working ? 17:02:12 ha.. 17:02:17 that's bad 17:02:21 but no worries 17:02:27 remount / rw 17:02:31 and start network 17:02:53 what is / on ? 17:03:55 ZFS 17:04:38 How can I temporarily disable the GUI a t boo time? 17:05:01 s/a t boo/at boot/ 17:05:28 the gui ? 17:05:50 UEFI loader ? 17:06:00 it's harmless 17:06:07 I.e. only get the console, but with multiuser login 17:06:08 now you can remount rw / 17:06:23 OK, so look at kld_list 17:06:49 sysrc kld_list-=undesired_driver 17:07:00 but first you need to make / writeateble 17:07:05 zfs get readonly zroot/ROOT/default 17:07:06 UEFI loader. I updated it this morning, after I ran into this problem. It made no difference. 17:07:21 zfs set readonly=off zroot/ROOT/default 17:07:40 sysrc kld_list-=i915kms 17:08:03 sync && reboot 17:08:12 and you will have no gui 17:08:29 but instead of rebooting, you can start network 17:08:38 and upgrade 17:08:46 dhclient em0 17:09:18 pkg upggrade -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods or pkg upggrade -f -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods 17:09:46 and you will be fine 17:10:17 kenrap: i like your style man 17:10:21 kudos or something 17:11:44 I get: No repositories are enabled 17:12:11 ha... you have to enable them 17:12:47 How? 17:12:47 mariuss: in 14 the name was different 17:12:57 please check your confing 17:13:08 I'm still on 14.3! 17:13:37 what do the logs say 17:13:38 check this file /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf 17:13:55 one repo has name with "kmod" 17:14:02 Looking at that: FreeBSD-kmods 17:14:07 go ahead 17:14:47 it was reanemed a lot, now the name is different 17:15:05 the log for sddm will tell you what going on 17:15:16 do you have securelevels set to anything hgiher that -1 ? 17:15:51 pastebin your rc.conf and your /etc/pkgs/FreeBSD.conf 17:15:59 er /etc/pkg/* 17:16:37 ek is dead 17:16:51 wrong server 17:17:12 now my shift is over, cpet will guide you, thanks 17:17:18 need to close some of these ssh tabs 17:25:33 OK. I'm now logegd into multiuser mode (with network) by disabling sddm in /etc/rc.conf. 17:26:08 The kld that is in need of being updated is radeonkms 17:27:22 Running pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-kmods did nothing. 17:31:06 that's sad story 17:31:29 but upgrading to 15.0 RC if it's your destkop is encouradged, at least by my 17:31:30 me 17:33:38 I'm not typically inclined to install non-RELEASE OS versions. However, as this is a non-production system I'll give it a try. 17:34:36 running non-relasesd software decreases sufrace and vector of attack against the desktop 17:34:46 my desktop runs CURRENT 17:36:14 What is the correct OS string? 15.0-RC doesn't seem to exist. 17:37:08 RC3 ? let me check 17:37:53 That was out a few days ago 17:38:40 perhaps RC4 is out, or it should be building now 17:38:50 https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=releng/15.0&id=91e2d7b9b2732001909b551980bb9dfdcf80805e 17:39:45 Looks like RC4 is out. 17:44:43 However, not available yet. Trying RC3. 18:35:57 Hmm I did a fresh VM install of 15, and its all configured nice with pkgbase and such, but I seem to be missing the shutdown command? 18:36:52 Nvm 18:37:23 It seems I have to prefix doas whereas I don't think I needed to before, it would just say that I didn't have permission 18:37:38 Stupid question sorry 18:37:51 Halt should be there also 18:39:07 Oh yeah 18:39:10 There it is 18:40:04 The man page for "man shutdown" says: In order to use the shutdown command, the user must have root privileges or be a member of the operator group. 18:40:16 Were you in the operator group before? But are not now? 18:40:16 Ohh 18:40:25 Yeah I think so 18:41:00 https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OpenBSDToFreeBSDMove 19:04:06 I really like how pkg fetches packages before installing 19:05:49 Does pkgbase play nice with portmaster or poudriere? Dont want to muck up pkg prime-list with dependencies 19:06:46 mzar: done. https://dan.langille.org/2025/11/25/prod-moving-to-a-satadom-based-zpool-zroot-using-zfs-snapshot-and-send-recv/ 19:07:07 and look at that formatting. I should proof read before pasting. 19:07:53 dvl: good job, I am following you on mastodon, so observed each your move ;-) 19:10:49 join #not-freebsd 19:10:57 oops sorry 19:12:04 daemon deserves at least nice poking ;-p 19:13:29 :-) 19:18:47 :3 19:33:17 wonder if im still an op 19:33:27 nope 19:34:05 dstolfa, guess I was away a while :P good to see you again 19:39:09 I installed FreeBSD-set-devel to try to compile some things but now I want to remove it but pkg says its vital. I don't want to use -f cause I don't want to break something 19:44:22 If I remove with -f and then run pkg autoremove it just hangs 19:44:53 it could be a but 19:45:03 *bug 19:45:58 How do I fix it 19:47:11 ha... that's hard to answer, probably you can report it 19:48:03 JetpackJackson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQbeCAlF6s 19:51:43 I don't get it 19:51:55 each time I see your nick reminds me of the jetsons theme 19:52:09 JetpackJackson: you cant mix ports a pkg's 19:52:19 daemon: \o 19:52:22 the only time you can is when the port has the same options as the pkg 19:52:23 cpet: oh 19:52:50 or using poudriere and adding the pkg repo 19:53:07 Lemme send a pastebin 19:53:26 What was that site you mentioned, I forgot 19:54:18 if its less than 3 lines just paste here 19:54:32 Its not 19:57:22 https://termbin.com/lag7 19:58:16 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us 20:01:46 ls -la | nc termbin.com 9999 20:01:49 that works 20:05:50 so many pastebins most if not all havent been maintained in 5+ years 20:08:32 Alright 20:18:00 Where do I report the pkg auto remove thing? 20:18:06 Im nervous 20:33:44 cpet: You've heard what happened to dpaste.org? 20:36:06 cpet: Right now I'm thinking, I have privatebin configured locally (publicly available, but login required). Now I want o install termbin.com on a local host nearby. 20:36:48 mzar: can you elaborate about android sgml reader and manpages 20:42:47 v01d: I am not using it 21:28:48 I need to see if xwayland dies on KDE or something cause not having it on niri sucks 21:45:25 cpet: oh, you meant the use of the '|' as the regex delimiter for typo correcting? 21:46:22 (forward slashes are overrated imo) 21:57:32