00:00:20 if no microcode message is printed, the CPU already has the latest microcode version OR the .conf file was not read/loaded correct, i think it is probably the first as the config looks correct 00:10:44 I should probably also use the microcode update service :x 00:47:29 hi, guys, can you tell me, what should I do: I want to try freebsd on virtual machine, but preinstalled version don't have enough space. Need I create another virtual disk or I can somehow expand the disk? 00:54:59 theres a lot of variables there. how are you virtualizing? 01:00:15 I'm using virt-manager, so is this an answer? :D 01:17:53 well you can increase the size of the disk image using whatever method your virtualization toolset gives you. then, you will want to boot into a separate vm image and mount the expanded one so you can edit the partitions and expand the filesystems. At least thats how I imagine it would go 01:24:24 yes, that's pretty much how I imagine it, but the thing is, I don't know exactly how to do it. I'm just asking if there's a guide 01:27:05 I did a little bit of googling and found some fourum posts: 01:27:05 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/resizing-a-partition.74237/post-453861 01:28:56 it probably wont be exactly the same for the vm image but the gpart and growfs commands are what's important 01:29:35 I havent used the vm image but I would assume it uses UFS 01:30:57 there is a choice 01:31:29 thanks for link, didn't know how to google it correctly 01:32:45 rtprio: I know the configuration of wireguard itself is the same everywhere, but my questions is more around setting up the freebsd specific stuff such as how to enable the service and where to put the config files. 02:04:46 wireguard gets set up as an interface, there is no wireguard service. you would use ifconfig to bring it up 02:07:01 https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?wg(4) 02:07:50 you should be able to bring up that man page in your own system as well 02:08:58 i got a bash script that runs a program of mine in a tmux session. it's like tmux new-session -s foo 'myapp -f /path/to/config -v run > /home/me/app.log 2>&1; exec $SHELL'. but when myapp had seg fault, that error wasn't put into the app.log, it was over in the tmux session. why? 02:10:53 thats def weird. did you give that a google? seems like it could be a common issue 02:11:45 maybe the seg fault is from bash and not the program? 02:23:00 does it work when you use any other program in place of your app? do some rudimentary testing and take the unstable program variable 02:23:24 *take out the unstable program variable 02:34:43 ok i needed: tmux new-session -s foo 'exec > /home/me/app.log 2>&1; myapp -f /home/me/myapp.conf -v start' 02:34:49 i think that'll work 04:17:03 Hi, I've recently installed FreBSD 14.3 and I see a ~constant stream of input errors on an Intel 82583V NIC, which leads to a dip in throughput. I'm stress testing the system and try to route at full 1Gbps full duplex through the router. How can I figure out what's causing these errors ? 04:17:18 I bootstrapped the system from a live memstick image. I repeated the test with previous versions 14.2, 14.1 and 13.1. These versions manage to recover from the input errors and achieve full 1Gbps RX & TX. 04:17:43 I noticed that the following threads kernel{if_io_tqg_1} and kernel{if_io_tqg_3} consume more CPU while the system returns input errors. 04:17:50 The system routes between em1 and em2 06:21:53 is it possible to freebsd-update a 14.3 to a specific patchlevel like p3 instead of 'newest'? i have a feeling p5 has a bug causing system crashes but i wanna verify first 06:26:27 kerneldove_, Yes. But the way is to compile from source. git clone the repo. Checkout the patch level you want to build. Compile it. Then install from that build of it. 06:26:35 It is actually a pretty straight forward process. 06:26:55 eh ya i'll pass. i'll just install 14.3 and not update 06:27:22 really should be able to run freebsd-update fetch -p 3 or something 06:29:26 I think everyone using FreeBSD should do a source compile at least onces. Then they will know how to do it when they need/want to do something special with it. 06:29:54 i've done it dozens of times, i know the process. i don't have time for that 06:33:51 I don't recommend watching it crank through it. I would launch it and then let it run and come back in an hour or three and it will be done. 06:34:10 I happen to be running on a source built system right now. 06:44:54 I should do a source build at some point, sounds fun. I need more goobers to test on though. I am not sure how difficult it is to src install when I need ZFS 06:45:00 *zfs root 06:51:55 what's a goober? 06:53:31 I am also running root on zfs and wouldn't have it any other way. 07:01:22 Reinhilde: haha its just what I call boxes, computers, anything that I can install and boot something on 07:01:44 I have a few spare laptops that I could test on probably 07:03:00 rwp: I guess I just dont really know about the src installation process. I'm sure theres info about it in the handbook 07:14:05 kerneldove_: you should use /usr/sbin/daemon 07:17:33 ya eventually i will but tmux is working fine for now 07:30:40 specialbomb, Yes. https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#makeworld 09:48:10 specialbomb: building from source is easy enough. If you have zfs, use beinstall(8) which will install the built sources into a new boot environment 09:48:11 perfection 09:50:00 when you're ready to build from sources feel free to ask for more info here. It's not hard to do, but there are a couple of useful *.conf files where some guidance is handy. 10:18:58 what are bursts of "Limiting closed port RST response ..." messages in /var/log/messages? 10:23:24 something is having fun with a closed port 10:23:42 look at log_in_vain to have those logged 10:25:45 ok ty. should i blackhole them 10:25:46 ? 10:27:27 I personally do 10:29:12 net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 10:29:12 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 <-- both of these settings? 10:29:54 add these to rc.conf 10:29:58 log_in_vain="2" 10:30:33 so don't set net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 10:30:33 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 ? or DO set those in addition to log in vain? 10:30:49 and do service netoptions restart 10:31:15 it does the same thing 10:31:49 i personally do a sysrc log_in_vain="2" && service netoptions restart 10:32:05 vs adding stuff to sysctl.conf that aren't already a rc.conf arg 10:32:56 remembe doing sysctl bleh.blah.bleh=x will not make it perm until you add it to /etc/sysctl.conf 10:34:41 you also have some other options 10:34:51 you can lower the threshhold or increase it 10:35:05 net.inet.icmp.icmplim: 200 10:35:16 sorry i guess i'm dumb i didn't catch if you set net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 10:35:17 or you can disregard those msgs by doing 10:35:17 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 or not? 10:35:31 net.inet.icmp.icmplim_output: 1 10:35:36 setting that to 0 10:35:55 setting log_in_vain="2" 10:36:05 and restart netoptions does exactly what you doing with that OID 10:36:52 log_in_vain="0" # >=1 to log connects to ports w/o listeners. 10:37:19 er no sorry 10:37:25 youre right hah 10:37:50 yeah add those blackhole= as mentioned before 10:38:08 log_in_vain logs those connection attempts 10:38:24 blackhole just makes it so it doesnt respond and appears to hang 10:40:13 net.inet.tcp.icmp_may_rst=0 10:40:22 that may or may not break things but it helps 10:41:39 I am guessing you do have a firewall setup ? 10:42:32 * cpet pokes ketas 10:44:13 you have come here 10:44:15 ya i have a fw 10:44:33 it's ports that are sometimes used, and hence open to the fw, that are getting probed, i imagine 10:45:06 i got the bios updated so now we'll see if 14.3-p5 still core dumps 10:45:31 thats part of having something online 10:45:31 limiting rst is antidos feature 10:45:54 ketas ya and it's a good feature, but i was thinking about just blackholing entirely, with net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 10:45:54 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 10:46:05 i already have udp blackhole, was thinking about adding tcp blackhole 10:46:08 log_in_vain is overkill but im curious whp probes my closed ports 10:46:27 ya i personally don't care who i just wanna cut noise in logs and network traffic/work for server 10:46:39 well you can fw block it too 10:46:49 how so? i use pf 10:46:51 block icmp 10:46:58 but then i can't ping can i? 10:47:07 you can allow those 10:47:30 pass in on $ext_if proto icmp icmp-type echoreq 10:47:32 etc.. 10:47:50 guys what's up 10:47:54 blocking icmps eh 10:47:58 hmm 10:48:03 if you alow icmp out you can ping 10:48:10 * cpet blocks ketas 10:48:26 * ketas passes ir 10:48:27 it 10:48:58 ketas you said it can be blocked in fw, how? 10:49:23 just drop it all 10:49:31 what is 'it'? 10:49:35 drop mic like it's hot 10:49:42 icmps? 10:49:56 you wanted to block tcp? 10:50:02 i think ping uses port #4 right? 10:50:10 4 and 8 10:50:20 echoreq echorep 10:50:25 icmp haz types 10:50:27 haa 10:50:28 has 10:50:47 some people block icmp some people don't 10:50:57 some people block pings other don't 10:51:10 yeah I like those who don't 10:51:10 some peole set drop-policy to drop others don't 10:51:13 but you can block all in fw 10:51:29 can block flooders by ip too 10:51:46 that could backfire but 10:51:54 i would ask to post your firewall config 10:52:03 but these days people are weird like that 10:52:13 about* 10:52:18 sysctl net.inet.tcp.blackhole can be set to 3 as well, must be a new 1. Setting net.inet.tcp.blackhole=3 extends the behavior of value 2 by also dropping unexpected segments on listening ports without sending a RST, offering further protection against certain scanning techniques 10:52:34 a new 1 meaning new option 10:52:41 yeap 10:53:30 man -P 'less -p " overload "' pf.conf 10:53:48 is an option 10:54:15 3 is new 1 :p 11:16:51 I like that one 11:17:37 but not the other one 11:20:38 hur 11:35:34 Hi 11:35:59 Hi 11:36:18 My Znc is broken for about month 11:36:37 why dont you fix it ? 11:36:42 why did you wait so long 11:36:54 it's not mine ircnow 11:37:29 oh well that would do it 11:37:55 My problem now it's not that ZNC 11:38:29 Ok what is the problem now 11:38:51 I don't know what is happening on the internet the last 10 days 11:39:04 neither do we 11:39:13 we need them logs 11:39:35 anyone here uses hosting like Linode or something like that 11:40:03 i run a VPS on contabo in germany 11:40:27 I use Vultr VPS, cheap but correct 11:41:14 cpet: be careful we may face legal problems if you didn't super secured your server from AI 11:41:40 it basically just runs a ircd 11:41:47 I will explain 11:42:17 * cpet gets some water, a NOS and some chips 11:44:04 AI is basically a information miner, if you host things that aren't yours well thats on you not AI 11:47:17 ketas: guess we lost him 11:48:46 wreh? 11:50:13 still waiting on this so called legal action 11:53:16 cpet: there is an organized AI bots attacks that happens from September (I think from July but it was lesser) till now, but now it's stronger.. On 8 Nov Linode contacted me (but I didn't read the msg :p ) saying that there is an physical problems on the server that runs my service (I am sure it's only me).. and they will move it to a new one, after the move on the next day 9 Nov.. a ToS... 11:53:18 ...Violation msg sent to me (I also didn't notice XD ) saying that some company in Spain "comvive" works on security and hosting, is listed my server IP within the last Ddos happen on them.. also the next day 10 Nov, some really weird mail service in Italy "tana.it", is listing me in login-attacks (trying to access some of user account).. also didn't that.. I noticed on 11 Nov, when my... 11:53:19 ...website is went down.. and my sim card no more works.. I noticed many international calls from India (that Spain company have data centers in India) and Spain... 11:54:20 yeap this is the wrong place for that 11:54:48 wha 11:55:17 yeah, looks like.. but do you noticed any heavy attacks on ssh, irc or http last months? 11:55:37 nope 11:56:52 The more weirder is that on the same day 8 Nov many data centers in India having heavy traffic problems.. also in Us-east Georgia 11:56:53 guess someone is a victim of "install it and forget then complain when weird things happen" 11:57:36 cpet: they used a php RCE 11:57:44 how did sim enter this picture 11:57:56 I scanned all my server and it's clean 11:58:26 ketas: those company wants to take legal action.. if I didn't move 11:59:50 I have also many strange reports from weird numbers in last two days on my number.. so my sim card company took an action 12:00:39 oh that way 12:00:47 ketas: I also I feel that linode given my contact information to them.. 12:00:50 the fuck tho :) 12:01:29 bec. I have two numbers on my account linode.. the two numbers the same thing happened to them 12:02:23 thay send +700K request testing many exploits in less than 2 hours, until found the perfect one.. 12:02:43 wait your vps got owned? 12:03:02 yeah 12:03:25 and they used it in nearly every way they could abuse 12:03:53 hacked other servers, used as Zombie in DDos and login-attacks 12:04:12 only in few hours 12:04:22 eh 12:04:35 phones, tho, still? 12:04:47 who bans admin phones 12:04:53 My sim is disabled now XD 12:04:59 so no more calls 12:05:18 how did your vps being owned f with your phone? 12:05:30 ? 12:05:39 nvm 12:06:04 why does /var/log/messages have swap_pager: cannot allocate bio in it if system is only using 10% of swap? 12:07:13 think you are missing some of that message 12:07:47 well admins could be slow to respond, could at maximum take it down, nevermind the fucking with paying customer 12:08:16 no that's all of it 12:08:18 my vps have been hacked using some php RCE.. then after they abused my server.. and the affected companies contacted Linode.. linode gived them as I think my phone numbers.. calling me many times.. then some other strange numbers reported me and my sim is disabled now 12:08:28 php lol, switch to rust 12:08:37 mediawiki 12:08:39 and phpbb 12:09:01 who's the phone co? 12:09:08 ask them too? 12:09:26 "On November 8 2025, customers using services hosted in our Mumbai (in-bom-2) and Chennai (in-maa) datacenters may have experienced packet loss and connection timeouts due to an issue with a third party transit provider. " 12:09:46 they got owned too? 12:09:48 :) 12:10:10 this linode nearly all vps companies have the same problems 12:10:14 saaaarr 12:10:33 and all ips attacked me is from India and Indonesia 12:10:35 someone did the needful all over their datacenter 12:10:40 shocking 12:10:46 yeah 12:10:50 btw which lto i want if i want to play with tapes at home? 12:10:53 also in USA 12:10:57 6? 5? 12:11:00 George 12:11:01 just don't use php it suck 12:11:04 always has 12:15:47 this also affected cloud flare, and found some interesting article on bbc on the same day of the heavy attack 12:15:48 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr417pwek7o 12:17:28 Linode refuses to talk, and said to me the security of the vps is on the customer 12:19:00 why there's a constant water need in dc anyway 12:19:07 https://status.linode.com/ 12:19:11 using evap cooling? 12:19:24 you can also see here all their problems in last 10 days 12:21:22 +5 Emergency, not only them also there are many other vps in the same time have nearly the same problems.. this a bizarre international attack.. 12:21:48 So be careful 12:22:11 just find a smaller provider. screw big names like linode and hurdur 12:22:25 yeah 12:22:51 there's probably a 0 day hypervisor escape going around 12:23:14 vps is big risk. just get a cheap dedicated bare metal 12:23:18 from a smaller provider 12:23:30 I think the hackers got into one of the vps in the network there in india and entered every other server on linode 12:23:43 that would be fun 12:23:50 and all of this are automated by AI 12:23:59 crazy O_o 12:24:05 just use ai bro 12:24:06 reminds me https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/23/cloudnordic-azero-cloud-host-ransomware/ 12:24:53 entire infra was busted 12:25:07 even company mail :) 12:25:14 Retrofan, track down the guy that hacked your phpbb vps and murder him 12:25:30 heh, you mean AI 12:25:36 all of this are bots AI 12:25:37 an be solved :) 12:25:42 rm -f the ai 12:25:43 Ah 12:25:44 s/an/can 12:25:46 :) 12:25:52 flatdog: how are yout 12:26:15 met is good, no problem 12:26:24 write an AI bot that "murders" their AI bots :P 12:26:50 oroborus, the snake eating its tail. Cool idea 12:26:57 tho right now you can still target the puppermasters 12:27:09 But.. 12:27:18 isn't that what trollbots on twitter have been doing for years already, arguing between each other 12:27:35 The weirdest thing here the attack on that weird mail website 12:27:38 tana.it 12:27:42 fully outsourced outrage culture. love it. 12:27:51 it's a private one 12:28:05 flatdog: what if it reaches the head 12:28:16 problem solved 12:28:29 they attacked a specified users wants to read their private mails 12:28:39 no more headaches for hoomans 12:28:59 and I don't know if they are behind the weird reports on my phone number 12:29:25 Sim is no more usable now, need to go to the company 12:29:26 it's 2025 you don't have to be ashamed of calling The Manhole voiceline anymore 12:29:38 be out and proud Retrofan 12:29:39 a what 12:29:53 brb, wife said something about lunch 12:30:06 *hooman one 12:30:31 how did you source a wife 12:31:19 cannot remember, it happened 40+ years ago 12:31:39 laterz 12:32:07 wtf 12:32:10 lead_pipe23: romans liked you 12:32:15 ugh poudriere is failing to extract to /tmp/ today 12:32:22 * dch wonders what changed 12:32:22 i can't imagine living with someone for that long 12:32:35 i don't even like having weekend guests 12:32:50 good for them but to me having a family is weird 12:34:58 kerneldove_ likes aloneness 12:35:10 ya 12:35:26 i can't imagine having to negotiate my living conditions with another person permanently 12:36:38 Family is good, not bad 12:37:05 i see kerneldove_ in https://sociologicamente.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/3663-1012.jpg 12:37:11 i already said good for them, just not for me 12:37:40 nah i'm orderly that's a shithole 12:37:49 it's not like i 'never grew up' or smth 12:43:51 I also forgot to share my desktop screenshot 12:43:54 https://ibb.co/bRWJP22R 12:45:47 definitely strong late 90s flare going on there 12:46:19 hah 12:46:53 what the de? 12:47:09 nt3.5ws :p 12:47:30 I like that image looks nice on desktop 12:48:32 is that the freebsd port or an actual next system? 12:49:17 afterstep 12:49:23 never mind heh 12:49:39 Gworkspace running https://ibb.co/BKzMG6Zh 12:49:45 *Gnustep 12:50:03 I like after.. but the 2.0 version is unusable 12:50:11 well seeing how x11amp has been removed years ago 12:50:19 we may have found why your VPS was owned 12:50:20 :D 12:50:28 lol 12:51:02 not to mention staroffice was decomisisoned years ago as well 12:51:14 realplayer has been a thing since like what 2005? 12:51:36 think the only thing on that screenshot that is modern is the monkey icon 12:51:55 now since im bored lets do some digging 12:52:25 it was removed in 2015 12:52:40 mm so poudriere fails if WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp but works if WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp2 with identical mount params 12:52:41 wat 12:53:31 cpet: This not staroffice 12:53:38 why would you change the wrkdirprefix 12:53:40 this the leates Openoffice 12:53:49 I like the star's icon 12:53:56 ah i see 12:54:28 i kind of like libreoffice 12:54:32 cpet: so it all ends up in /tmp/ whether I build in tree or via poudriere 12:55:03 well check the mount options cause /tmp i think has noexec nosuid 12:55:09 cpet: to be honest I was using mediawiki version form 2012; bec I hate JS 12:55:10 which is all neded by poudriere to build 12:55:17 only if you use the rootless building 12:55:35 Retrofan: fail 12:55:41 yeah it fails in extract, which is very odd 12:56:13 never had a reason to do that i setup poudriere and use the html frontend 12:56:26 but phpbb was the leatest 12:56:43 I modifed a theme to be nearly 0 JS 12:56:55 Retrofan: php is bad anything thats not fixed ASAP will get owned 12:57:02 Retrofan: especially if you run wordpress 12:57:16 thios is why I use hugo 12:57:34 No wordpress heh the whole website is static web 1.0 html 12:57:45 last i checked nothing really can be done with vanilla html 12:58:24 I used a blog uses markdown, and heavy modified it to 100% static 12:59:01 That wiki never touched it since 2022 12:59:10 and I forget it 13:01:45 That attack is so dengrous they are not only attacking in one way, they nearly all protcols, AI scan for security holes and make bots test it 13:01:59 irc and ssh and http 13:02:03 and many more 13:02:37 So we now have clever worms XD 13:04:46 you are using old as hell software 13:04:54 then complaing your stuff got owned 13:04:57 ? 13:04:59 what teh hell? 13:05:06 phpbb is not old 13:05:15 only mediawiki 13:05:30 and they hacked both in less than hour 13:05:41 in less than an hour, counted from..? 13:05:55 I can see in logs 13:06:16 bots was trying many different ways 13:06:21 and found the right 13:06:54 i have considered writing my own forum software 13:07:00 It's only me hacked you can see nearly all the company have the same problem now.. 13:07:00 in Tcl 13:07:05 NIc 13:07:07 nice 13:07:13 not done it yet. but i should 13:07:28 make it html 3.2 13:08:27 my server also hacked many other servers, and acted as a zombie 13:09:21 may want to read up on properly securing your server 13:09:45 lol my server hacked 13:09:47 kind of curious of logs 13:10:02 ketas: dont confuse your server with your mind 13:10:22 my hacks are ok 13:10:30 Retrofan: i only ask cause my pf has blocked over 3k IPs 13:10:45 and a bunch of 404's from random php crap 13:10:59 ketas: what? 13:11:03 i don't even watch what mine logs 13:11:03 4.217.221.186|Wed 12 Nov 2025 06:59:52 -0600|404|961|GET /enclas.php HTTP/1.1|||Host: 13:11:07 etc.. 13:11:13 yeah 13:11:16 ports are funny too 13:11:25 it's and international attack 13:11:33 they are working from sep 13:11:44 but now look like they took over india 13:11:47 there's ALL sorts of scans nowadays 13:11:57 * cpet scans ketas 13:12:02 * cpet ketas has ssh running 13:12:04 ketas 13:12:16 I scanned 3 times using ClamAV 13:12:22 I am using linux vps 13:12:27 clamav is as useless as it gets 13:12:33 and nothing their 13:12:41 I think it's a 0 day 13:12:50 or somthing like SQL slammer 13:12:56 writes it self to memory 13:12:59 only 13:13:05 Retrofan: its not hard to random try thing and use them without anyone knowing for months 13:14:39 cpet: it only attack servers, I think that no one way; bec AI writes the code for attacking 13:15:05 and after get in it makes it attack other servers on company 13:15:23 gets in from where ssh exploit 13:15:36 then DDos some security services 13:15:52 and trying to hack some weird people 13:16:10 I think it's mafia or something organized 13:16:30 cpet: gets in from everywhere 13:16:53 i see 13:16:54 my ssh is super sucred and they tried and faild 13:17:04 but got in from php 13:17:06 it's AI 13:17:18 many ways many thing 13:18:13 The only thing I am scared of is they may stole my visa, like what they done for my phone number 13:18:28 my sim useless now 13:19:26 Data centers is heating up.. and people can't afford water in many places 13:19:35 The modern world is scary 13:20:04 its not scary just greedy 13:20:13 I thought we were championing equality and celebrating diversity 13:21:29 Oh, they closed the ticket 13:21:46 skynet became online 13:21:53 I can start my server now.. but I will let it down for couple days 13:21:57 skynet is after ketas and Retrofan 13:22:15 Be careful also cloud flare is affected 13:22:22 hah 13:22:33 its always either cloudflare or amazon 13:22:38 I can't trust their security now 13:22:56 didn't cloudflare recently ddos itself? 13:22:58 i personally never did 13:23:09 Koston: link or it never happened 13:23:19 Koston: oh 13:23:35 only read about problems in india 13:23:46 https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/18/cloudflare_ddosed_itself/ 13:23:47 that affected the service 13:23:56 guys 13:24:03 what you talking about man? 13:24:09 yeah 13:24:12 sounds hysterical 13:24:18 black2: im bored so im just listening 13:24:50 Koston: hah 13:24:55 I will send links of the last problems with them.. hold a sec 13:25:14 all i got form this is dont use linode 13:25:15 heh 13:25:19 https://community.cloudflare.com/t/customer-impacting-issue-in-the-mumbai-datacenter/323551 13:26:03 that is from 2021 13:26:04 cf is never a good-will actor in the industry 13:26:11 Xd 13:26:14 my bad 13:26:21 did you guys hear about the founder's downfall in life? 13:26:32 There one which new 13:26:37 hold a sec 13:26:41 feel sorry for that guy 13:26:43 black2: link or it never happened 13:26:56 i guess i can google but 13:27:00 you kind of started it 13:27:02 so pay up 13:27:12 pending result... 13:27:19 rain check opk 13:28:17 The Devastating Decline of a Brilliant Young Coder by WIRED 13:28:32 https://www.wired.com/story/lee-holloway-devastating-decline-brilliant-young-coder/ 13:29:13 they really should do a lot of the things they've done 13:29:16 this is exclusively for members 13:29:17 shouldnt* 13:29:19 pfft 13:29:39 you can bypass that with wayback machine I think 13:29:56 well I can read the whole thing here 13:30:07 you want the pdf? cpet 13:30:43 tl;dr, the guy got dementia in his early 30s 13:30:46 an S-1 IPO filing that it made public today, “Tragically, Lee stepped down from Cloudflare in 2015, suffering the debilitating effects of Frontotemporal Dementia, a rare neurological disease.” 13:30:53 damn :( 13:31:31 I can't find cloudflare 13:31:35 I have PTSD, Chronic kidney disease at stage 3 and my hands get numb 13:31:41 but still sucks :( 13:31:46 but I got many other ones 13:31:48 https://trust.zscaler.com/zscloud.net/posts/26291 13:32:02 In same time of linode 13:32:05 anything with cloud in it is bound to have issues 13:33:38 "cloud" is a buff term 13:34:00 similar derivatives include "Internet of Things" and "Big Data" 13:34:08 search for linode, first hit description: Linode Kubernetes Engine Managed K8s container orchestration engine for containerized workloads. 13:34:17 what an absolute bullshit bingo jackpot line 13:34:39 buzzword bingo 13:34:48 can anyone tell the difference between AI, ML and DL anymore? 13:36:10 Koston: that sounds bogus and pompous. 13:39:31 I am scared now on my money and visa 13:40:05 Retrofan: what VISA? 13:40:25 I don't know if they are hacked or somethin.. but how my phone number leaked.. and got reports on it 13:40:55 sim card is no more working 13:40:58 black2: Probably his foreign residency, since "visa" is spelled in all lowercase. 13:41:25 ? 13:41:27 oh 13:41:34 I mean my credit card 13:41:41 Then that's Visa, not visa. 13:41:53 We here use term "visa" for all credit cards 13:41:59 Or VISA rather. 13:43:16 I call both VISA and Mastercard just "Slavecard" because of them constantly going after entertainment and censoring it all to death just because their CEO's don't like it. 13:43:27 remiliascarlet: hey did I talk to you before? Are you the Japenese person who stayed in #fsf quite often? 13:44:07 I'm Japanese, though I don't think I was in #fsf for that long. 13:44:19 yeah they cut the donation money of wikileaks back then. that was scary man. 13:45:21 a debit is the best I can stand. I never will get a credit card despite constant temptations by the bank employees. 13:45:40 I was in #gnu before, but I was constantly being attacked with "you're cringe" after having sided with RMS. 13:46:01 remiliascarlet: okay but nice to talk to you again. I think you are the person then. 13:46:19 I have debit cards only. Not because I can't get credit cards, I just don't trust them. 13:47:09 why? because of the RMS's supposed connection to Marvin Minsky? 13:47:45 that's fallacy 13:47:54 I simply said that cancelling the very man that made GNU and FSF possible in the first place was a very bad move, and the political activists there didn't like that. 13:48:06 cpet: you are not dying? 13:48:30 <[tj]> this is off topic, please move the conversation elsewhere 13:48:57 [tj]: okay man chill 13:49:11 <[tj]> you gotta get a head of things 13:49:12 oh, mine is debit not credit.. 13:49:29 I think we'd best take it elsewhere? remiliascarlet 13:49:35 black2: Watch out, he's an operator. Might move this to #freebsd-social. 13:49:51 [tj]: wdym "head of things"? 13:49:56 remiliascarlet: okay 13:55:42 theirs always that one person 13:57:09 ketas: not yet 13:57:41 black2: proper management of those plastics is key 13:57:47 ops should always be opped up; the libera catalyst rule considered harmful 13:58:10 cpet: what plastics? 13:58:19 black2: cards? 13:58:27 okay right 13:58:47 I only have a few and they sit in my drawer so I should be fine 14:00:13 -social, now 14:03:30 wtf catalyst 14:12:11 ketas: please stay on topic 14:12:19 and tell me with py-openssl isnt found 14:16:01 something must be done about this colla of cryptofascists. 14:18:37 Reinhilde: kdegames fails cause py-openssl was renamed to py-pyopenssl 14:18:55 now sadly i use pkg 14:19:03 so compiling would render me recompilg kde 14:19:07 and well no :) 14:19:52 uh, huh. 's always struck me that freebsd's packaging is strange sometimes 14:21:32 After KDE 4 came out.. KDE became useless 14:26:27 i like KDE xfce4 for my lower end systems 14:26:44 i liked E as well but they have a very strange release cycle 14:26:53 and I have seen them release like 4 releases in a day 14:27:46 e? 14:28:42 oh that e 14:28:42 eketas 14:29:19 bye 15:51:04 cpet, don't be that guy. 16:06:28 ok i reinstalled 14.3, didn't update so i'm not at patch 5, and starting up my server app. we'll see if i get an OS crash again 16:06:35 got bios updated so it's not that 16:12:53 Just because you have the lastest BIOS, doesn't mean it isn't a turd. 16:13:17 well it was shitting when it had the older bios so there's nothing more i can do at this point 16:13:27 last thing left to try is if the p5 change to udp code is the culprit 16:13:38 my server app is heavy on udp 16:14:44 p5 as in perl? 16:14:51 patch level 5 16:15:03 the latest 14.3 patch level 16:18:22 CrtxReavr: what guy ? 16:18:38 09:12 < cpet> ketas: please stay on topic 16:19:06 CrtxReavr: please stay on topic man 16:19:09 are you guys flirting? 16:19:11 jc 16:19:29 kerneldove_: ive known CrtxReavr since probably aroound 2001 16:19:52 well i guess you guys have a really strong bond formed and i'm sure you guys will be happy together 16:20:04 And he gets worse every year. 16:20:14 you two are so cute. perfect couple 16:20:15 now hes flirting 16:20:31 all this time and the flame is still alive 16:20:38 hah 16:21:01 * CrtxReavr gags kerneldove_ with fragmented UDP. 16:21:11 :/ 16:21:20 kerneldove_: you did it not me 16:25:54 hrm sudo was remade in rust 16:27:09 nice! 16:27:11 https://github.com/trifectatechfoundation/sudo-rs/tree/main/src 16:27:38 i wonder if its behavior is exactly the same or if it did the coreutils jig 16:27:45 https://www.phoronix.com/news/sudo-rs-security-ubuntu-25.10 16:27:47 hah 16:28:23 * cpet moves along 16:29:17 kerneldove_: https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/security/sudo-rs 16:30:05 i'll give it a try 16:30:53 i still use sendmail despite it being not used any more due to bad rep of being insecure 16:30:56 so bleh :) 16:37:00 It's a piece of software with a long history. 16:37:06 It's also very mature. 16:37:31 also was rewritten 16:37:44 That said, however, I find postfix to be much easier to configure and keep secure. 16:37:58 And hell, it's damned near as mature as sendmail these days. 16:38:45 i like opensmtpd 16:38:50 syntax is almost in par with pf 16:43:18 Sendmail is 42 yrs old 1 yr older than myself 16:43:40 Postfix is 26 yr old 16:43:48 according to the trustworthy wikipedia 16:44:03 I just remember with postfix, everything I needed to know about configuring it was in the comments of the included .conf file. 16:44:36 Exim is older 16:44:56 I always got confused with the hosts stuff 16:45:08 Isn't exim a client? 16:45:38 server 16:45:46 o_O 16:46:41 Are you thinking of exmh? 16:47:14 exim 16:47:26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exim 16:47:47 * V_PauAmma_V meant that for CrtxReavr. 16:47:54 oh 16:48:11 Exim was the default mail server in Directadmin 16:48:22 but they cut freebsd support for some reason 16:48:47 In March 2023 a study performed by E-Soft, Inc.,[5] approximated that 59% of the publicly reachable mail-servers on the Internet ran Exim. 16:48:54 CrtxReavr: :) 16:50:33 Conclusion exim admins didn't now how to not report a version tag. 16:51:13 now how 16:52:40 Is it popular in India & China? 16:53:09 i dont know 16:53:36 I'm just baffled as to how it could have been so under the radar for me. 16:53:58 no body is perfect not even grammar people 16:54:10 "Nobody." 16:54:23 this isn't about me man 16:54:46 Hey,you teed me up so nicely there. 16:55:37 I get lucky so often 16:57:48 You know, if you were to track down my Junior & Senior High English teachers and tell that them I grew up to be a grammar zealot, they'd never believe you. 16:59:18 tell that them ? 16:59:40 s/that// 16:59:55 tell them that I 17:00:04 yes 17:00:22 or drop the 'that' - that works too. 17:02:50 too many that's 17:03:56 so I have a script that fetch ip's from access.log based on 404, random shell code, and some other crap 17:04:07 just in the last 72 hours it has blocked around 4000 IP's 17:05:24 not to mention it has taken me a while to block all that censys scanning bs 17:06:03 CrtxReavr: I graduated in August, yay me 17:06:36 luckily grammar is not part of it or else I would of failed miserably 17:06:37 heh 17:08:43 Finally finished beauty school, eh? 17:09:01 cyberSecurity 17:09:41 i guess to computer it's beauty school 17:10:34 pccard was removed 17:16:19 pccard.4* 17:33:02 cpet wtf 4k ips. you run a porn site or some other hot target? 17:33:14 i'm glad i don't run any public facing services 17:38:29 kerneldove_, never exposed ssh to the internet before? 17:38:57 ya but that's the not the same as a website 17:39:10 with ssh it's easy to know if it's legit vs not traffic 17:39:57 probably ai crawlers "found" you 17:40:17 not at all surprising these days 17:51:49 Long before AI crawlers was web crawlers. 17:52:26 I love it when you can watch your logs, see them download your robots.txt, then immediately hit everything you tell them not to index. 18:03:58 ah, the old days 18:13:10 That's all still very much a thing. 18:13:27 lol 18:15:23 https://gifs.cackhanded.net/wargames/shall-we-play-a-game.gif 18:15:30 Joshua just wants to play a game. 18:17:25 Was Matthew Broderick 12 when they made that movie? 18:18:40 "I'd piss on the spark plug if I thought it'd do any good!" 18:20:46 He was very young for sure. 18:22:42 https://odysee.com/@macer:f/south_park_norad:e 18:22:48 This part had me dying laughing. 18:27:20 I'm old, but I never owned a cradle modem. 18:28:31 ``30 GOTO 20 `` would have been a lot more efficient. 18:29:23 Thisd odysee it's own video site, or another YT aggregator? 18:33:13 CrtxReavr: on my home network I begun just opening up wireguard tunnels instead of keeping ssh open, way better option imo 18:33:40 wg was a blessing upon us mortals 18:34:13 my home vpn situation improved greatly with the conversion from openvpn to wg 18:39:22 Jason Donenfeld is genuinely one of my favorite dudes, his projects are great. I use pass daily 18:46:37 kevans: In what way? 18:46:47 * skered is openvpn with pfsense 18:47:59 I moved from openvpn to headscale and have had so many problems 18:48:54 I've always been hungup on the config/routing of wireguard. 18:49:15 I'd hope it would be no different than openvpn (even though it's mostly done for you in pfsense). 18:49:42 its not that hard! you should read the introduction to the concepts of wg on the official webpage. its beautifully simple actually 18:50:14 so simple it makes you wonder why no one really did it before. really genius stuff 18:50:41 Well everytime I'm thinking about it I'm remote... over openvpn... I get scared. 18:51:16 I'll have to try again. 18:51:18 dont be scared, be curious! 18:52:07 * skered will do it at home via phone. Don't like breaking things when I'm not there 18:55:24 you can experiment with it locally on two machines too if you wanna poke around at that 22:18:17 why is cpet trying to date CrtxReavr and me 22:18:20 :p 22:18:53 is that what you want? 22:28:18 I struggle to find a reason to use VPNs when there's ssh handy.l 22:29:33 mason: because it's a drag to ssh port forward all the time 22:29:47 Eh, SOCKS makes it pretty easy. 22:30:22 If I had to do a ton of UDP I might change my mind. But I never do. 22:32:11 not everything is web either 22:32:37 Other things can use SOCKS, but yeah. 22:38:16 Huh. TIL SOCKS5 can do UDP. 22:50:55 i would say using emcrypted encapsulation would be a better idea in most cases 23:06:26 ketas: dont be weird man 23:07:35 aye cpet 23:07:38 drama in the love triangle! 23:08:00 no thats ketas being ketas 23:08:14 This looks neat, anybody use this before? https://github.com/DtxdF/AppJail 23:09:14 not sure I trust a project that has such big donation images 23:09:15 heh 23:10:01 LOL 23:10:39 ill still handwrite my jails for now I think. cool though 23:11:13 the inhouse jail manager in rc is good enough for me 23:11:37 i have problems with that 23:12:17 cpet: same I'm a simple man 23:12:27 and thing it came from 23:12:52 why one can't just install a port :p 23:12:57 unsure 23:13:17 I'm sure there is a use case for someone. 23:14:15 yeah 23:14:53 i dont think any of the new jail managers fix any of the issues that make people want to create new ones 23:14:59 cbd is a beast of a ugly and confusing app 23:15:04 but it works when its setup 23:15:07 cbsd* 23:15:26 never used any of them somehow 23:15:37 ketas: dont be like CrtxReavr who never herd of exim 23:16:25 i never used that 23:16:37 used qmail and postfix 23:17:37 oh yeah strange ideas 23:17:55 why that's a thing in linux anyway i wonder 23:18:07 i can get the idea 23:18:34 but it's another damn wrapper 23:18:37 linux uses systemd which is a overly complicated beast as well 23:18:51 systemd asids 23:18:57 aside 23:19:11 but those containers? 23:19:28 kind of like the idea of OCI 23:19:57 wtf oci even was 23:20:27 Oracle Cloud Infrastructure? 23:20:36 open container infra 23:20:57 Open Container Initiative ? 23:20:59 :p 23:21:09 https://opencontainers.org/ 23:21:21 https://freebsdfoundation.org/project/oci-container-support/ 23:21:38 ya know docker, podman, that stuff 23:22:55 that whole thing seems like someone rubbing and go like... now how do we make everyone suffer as much as windows users when they want to install programs 23:23:05 rubbing hands 23:23:37 containers arent a bad idea, its more seemingly everyone wants to do it differently and its frustrating 23:23:51 thats my perception at least 23:23:52 same with jail managers 23:23:54 :) 23:24:07 I just use the rc script! 23:24:13 it worky good 23:24:21 it worky 23:24:22 heh 23:25:54 i need to reorganize my jails and datasets. I want to make it so each jail has its own ZFS dataset so I can snapshot more granularly. I first started working with freebsd in general a few months ago so my architecture is a bit naive :P 23:26:00 finally got all these url regex crap working 23:26:17 now all these *.php pings give Connection Closed 23:26:40 specialbomb: been working with freebsd for 28 years 23:26:42 specialbomb: :D 23:26:54 im in love with it! 23:27:02 done you get weird too 23:27:06 dont 23:27:20 i installed 4.6 23:27:40 actually when did 2.2.8 come out 23:27:42 I mean, im no professional, but I love the freebsd way of doing things 23:28:10 ok 27 years 23:28:33 ive run into so few problems, and the documentation is a ton better than a lot of other operating systems ive fooled with. its never been easier to answer my own questions 23:28:46 hah 23:28:54 yes 23:29:06 specialbomb: asking the wrong questions then 23:29:34 im not experienced, so they arent hard questions :p 23:30:06 ask ketas all your questions he knows all the things 23:30:18 reminds me https://linux.die.net/man/8/lsof 23:30:30 love the synopsis 23:31:07 terrifying 23:31:46 every command is like that 23:32:06 think i sent in a ML requesting a rewrite to a more informative -h output 23:32:14 the reply was not good so gave up 23:32:19 of what 23:32:23 lsof? 23:32:30 all commands 23:32:33 well it fragments 23:33:54 thats one hell of a request. 23:34:11 if you know C sed and some magic 23:34:14 its not really 23:34:20 did someone get pissed 23:34:33 people always get pissed when I say something 23:34:34 hah 23:34:48 why 23:34:50 :p 23:34:58 i guess im too direct for most people 23:35:01 why you hate /root/ 23:35:03 :p 23:35:13 cause installing everything to /root is bad 23:35:25 btw where to put custom things in hier anyway? 23:35:36 noone really fines you 23:35:41 hier is an illusion 23:35:45 there is no fs police 23:35:56 yes 23:35:57 I suppose I dont really know what you mean by "rewrite to a more informative -h output" for "all commands" 23:36:17 usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvWx] file ... unlink [--] file 23:36:29 poudriere uses /xxxdirxxx in it's jails 23:36:45 but i chose /root/ for less confusion 23:36:47 what would be your ideal output? 23:37:01 Application Options: --config=PATH Configuration file location (~/.irssi/config) --home=PATH Irssi home dir location (~/.irssi) 23:37:22 somebody recently put /root 750 into mtree 23:37:24 this makes me have to do a man rm 23:37:25 read 23:37:25 which craps me 23:37:31 and then go on so i want rm -i 23:37:48 now if rm was like irssi 23:37:55 i can go yeah i want -i and rf 23:37:59 i can't decide where to go 23:38:06 go any where 23:38:06 zpools go /xxx 23:38:18 ah, I guess im always having a man page open anyway so I suppose it doesnt bug me much 23:38:23 zpools goto /beer 23:38:33 pools of beer... nice 23:38:40 i mean you can write anywhere as long as it won't confuse you or others 23:38:47 beer 448G 52.9G 395G - - 1% 11% 1.00x ONLINE - 23:38:47 root@server:/var/log/hiawatha # 23:38:53 we all need a beer dataset 23:38:59 nanobsd did put things into /root/ as well 23:39:12 ive only used nanobsd once 23:39:19 I named my main storage pool boulder 23:39:23 heh 23:39:35 specialbomb: i drink a lot of beer so its a reminder 23:39:46 specialbomb: kind of why I own unix.beer 23:39:48 one could choose never to be used dir in / as well 23:39:51 like /custom 23:39:54 cause I drink the beers while doing unix stuffs 23:40:49 opt srv whatever could be used as well 23:40:55 nice domain 23:41:25 mail/openwebmail||2021-02-01|Has expired: Does not use modern Perl syntax and no development activity since 2006 23:41:28 i've see /data\d+ or /virt\d+ being used 23:41:28 aww 23:41:31 whatever 23:41:32 I havent hosted a website in a long time :( 23:42:30 i host one using a mini pc that sits right next to my router 23:42:34 Copyright © 2001-2025 Open WebMail Project 23:42:49 they used $year i thinl 23:42:50 k 23:43:01 I just dont have a lot to say, so I dont need to host a site! 23:43:17 hmm https://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/doc/changes.txt 23:43:18 i have a patch bin 23:43:21 unsure 23:43:36 https://unix.beer/~chris/ 23:44:23 trying to see why kdegames doesnt compile 23:45:33 KDE was my de of choice when I was a lot younger, ive been meaning to try it out again 23:46:02 https://xkcd.com/927/ 23:46:09 Installing py311-pyopenssl-25.3.0_1,1... 23:46:09 pkg-static: py311-pyopenssl-25.3.0_1,1 conflicts with py311-openssl-25.0.0_1,1 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/OpenSSL/SSL.py 23:46:10 on those jails & oci 23:46:40 was it renamed lately? 23:46:58 yeah I was thinking about that one lately ketas haha 23:47:02 or those are two things? 23:47:17 ah 23:47:32 so MOVED isnt the same as RENAME? 23:47:42 it should be moved 23:47:46 delete it? 23:47:51 i cant 23:47:57 why? 23:47:58 it will remove about 900 ports 23:48:01 always can 23:48:03 -f 23:48:25 guess ill just wait until packages are rebuilt 23:48:31 900 dependencies? sure sounds like kde 23:48:34 pkg create -nv 23:48:36 specialbomb: i like KDE its the most complete DE 23:48:41 specialbomb: however people hate it 23:48:41 first 23:48:46 or so 23:49:42 cpet: I took the i3 pill a long time ago and never really went back haha. I've gotten so used to my own little setup that I look like an idiot when I have to use someone elses computer 23:49:50 looks like it's rust time again 23:50:03 o/` lets rust again o/` 23:50:39 https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/security/py-pyopenssl?id=aafe9a2135e4d9df2cf564477e4584a56d6b8a69 23:50:42 why? 23:51:26 it was done 27 hours ago 23:51:34 hmm 23:51:41 unsure why naming 23:51:53 it's already a py openssl 23:51:59 py py openssl? 23:52:32 time to email the committer 23:52:42 it's upstream name but still 23:53:08 ah so the project renamed? 23:53:17 unsure if it did 23:53:18 think all those were renamed to pyname 23:53:22 er py-pyname 23:53:31 imagine if new port comes and is named py-openssl 23:53:38 i was just wondering cause I wanted kdegames 23:53:39 :p 23:53:58 you should calm your desires 23:54:15 nah, next it will be python-opensecuresocketlayer 23:54:29 openbuffy 23:54:40 secure socket slayer 23:54:44 hah 23:54:58 ketas: please stay on topic 23:55:02 :p