00:09:42 <Macer> it's tagged at 201 (the vid)
00:28:32 <Macer> ok. got it.
00:28:36 <Macer> i saw what i did wrong there.
00:34:51 <Macer> sweet! it's doing exactly what i need it to do. now for the real test lol
00:37:30 <rtprio> great
01:42:43 <dho> zi doesn't want more connections
01:46:41 <zi> whoa
01:46:42 <zi> is dho!
01:50:05 <dho> tis!
01:50:07 <dho> how've you been
01:56:01 <zi> good man, how bout you?
01:56:03 <zi> been many moons
02:06:38 <dho> it has -- sorry, running kiddo bedtime, back in a bit!
07:48:19 <nwe> good morning! when I running this script both as root and regular user https://dpaste.org/7u7vo it´s working and detect external-monitor, but when I running this script (via devd) it doesn't work the it always suspending, what Im missing? my lid.conf (devd) looks like this https://dpaste.org/oZFw4
07:51:13 <nwe> or is it like this that I cant run devd and xrandr?
10:50:59 <Macer> It’s working but rclone is super slow. I guess the trials and tribulations of using fuse?
10:51:15 <Macer> Maybe I can tweak rclone a bit to speed it up.
10:57:28 <ridcully_> rclone can "patch" large files instead of transfering them again.  this may or may not be a good idea, depending on the data, the fs, the transport.  make sure, you are using the mode best for your use-case
11:20:15 <ketas> just like freebsd-update?
11:20:18 <ketas> hmm
11:20:20 <ketas> btw
11:20:47 <ketas> how to get missing feature out of tcsh and into sh
11:21:00 <ketas> it's not in bash either
11:21:27 <ketas> i have no idea which other shells have this partial history search
11:22:02 <ketas> at quick glance as if nobody ever used heard wanted what i used form 4.6
11:22:04 <ketas> from
11:22:08 <ketas> :p
11:25:45 <ketas> exec echo\ndate\nw\n, then type e and up, in csh you get echo, in sh and bash you get w
11:28:11 <ketas> i can't find what it even is called
11:31:50 <ketas> when i used linux, i don't think i even knew what shell i used, let alone change it, so i didn't change it in fbsd either :p
11:43:08 <ridcully> `!e\n` would work at least with bash afaik
11:57:05 <ketas> ridcully: that executes it directly?
11:57:43 <ketas> yes it does
11:58:04 <ketas> but what just gets it on prompt?
11:59:54 <ketas> it's like, oh i had this oneliner, i think it all started with fgrep so you hit up on f
12:00:09 <ketas> likely find it so you can reuse parts of it
12:01:06 <ketas> ! would just russian roulette run something from past
12:02:57 <ridcully> zsh can tab-complete ! - everything beyond that i use fzf for.  the feature you want is named `history-beginning-search-backward` in zsh.  maybe this gives you a hint for the other shells or something to search with
12:09:13 <ketas> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1gfwls/didnt_know_bash_has_incremental_history_searching/
12:09:16 <ketas> hmm
12:09:36 <ketas> yeah it can do a little bit like that
12:09:42 <ketas> cursor is wrong tho
12:10:17 <ketas> for some funny reasons bash, at least here, never has it on
12:11:15 <ketas> sh also has no {} while bash bash that
12:11:19 <ketas> has
12:11:26 <ketas> bash bash wtf
12:12:00 <ketas> some people never know {} either :p
12:12:25 <ketas> one was like wait what did type {,.bak}
12:12:30 <ketas> you
12:13:07 <ketas> or ^d on prompt :p
12:33:17 <ketas> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=290740
12:33:23 <ketas> oh look
12:33:33 <ketas> how many additional bugs it created
12:33:43 <ketas> the issue
12:39:20 <cyric> s/bugs/bug reports/, someone just can't use search or better yet post to current/stable mailing list
12:41:13 <Koston> ketas: I think bash enables incremental history search by default with CTRL-R?
12:52:38 <pertho> I'm trying to run WINE in a jail, and when I try to run /usr/local/share/wine/pkg32.sh install...  I get: "/usr/lib32/libc.so.7" not found; exiting. I'm running bastille and using a thin jail. Is there something I need to run to fill in the lib32 dependencies on the jail?
12:53:27 <ketas> cyric: yeah i did botg
12:53:28 <ketas> h
12:54:05 <pertho> ahh I think I found it.. bastille_bootstrap_archives=
12:54:21 <ketas> Koston: i tried but i can't use it somehow, i have no idea how it works, i type chars and something just inline appears
13:43:23 <CrtxReavr> pertho, find /usr -type f -name 'libc.so.*'
14:16:23 <pertho> CrtxReavr: yeah I just had to add 'lib32' to the bastille_bootstrap_archives list and re-bootstrap and it was happy
14:17:26 <nimaje> BarnabasDK: you know about sesutil?
14:20:01 <nimaje> as linux_base-c7 is deprecated, what do we use as linux base now? I didn't find another linux base in ports
14:21:44 <BarnabasDK> nimaje, not really
14:24:07 <nimaje> well, sesutil seems to be what you asked about some time ago, it lets you control the state leds of disk
14:24:21 <BarnabasDK> yeah, if it is scsi
14:50:11 <nimaje> hm, I should test on my desktop what the sesutil commands do, as it somewhy has ses, but only SATA connectors and I put normal SATA disks in there, I don't think they have leds anywhere; I already tested sesutil show, it can show me which disk is connected to which slot
15:33:30 <cyric> ketas: and it keeps piling up
15:37:11 <ketas> cyric: where?
15:37:24 <ketas> yeah people build their worlds i guess
15:37:27 <ketas> :p
15:39:15 <ketas> yeah 5 total reports
15:40:03 <ketas> funny, it's hard to test thing too
15:55:23 <ketas> kevans: where those changes should be put to for feedback i wonder, i've tried to put them into some ml before, later filed pr, there none were rejected, were useful ideas, but it's not like i can do anything else
15:56:45 <kevans> ketas: throw them in phabricator and we can tag a few people that might be willing to review
15:57:52 <ketas> i guess i could make account there
15:58:23 <ketas> some them i couldn't figure out fully either
15:58:38 <ketas> as if more than one brain is needed :p
16:01:09 <ketas> i watched bunch of phabs, seemed like changes came after reviews, etc
16:01:25 <ketas> was curious of process
16:01:36 <ketas> but yeah i'll see
16:04:27 <ketas> while looking around i found wontfix from old times that proposed 24h clock into many places
16:04:38 <ketas> but ps did get 24h now eh
16:05:01 <ketas> maybe that was the right place
16:05:19 <ketas> and uptime everyone just configures locally
16:06:02 <V_PauAmma_V> https://wiki.freebsd.org/Phabricator
16:07:22 <ketas> i find it fun how i created special script to search for 24h locales so i can use them solely for that purpose
16:08:06 <ketas> because apparently it's easier for coders to do it that way
16:08:34 <ketas> even made my own special locale because nothing else did fit
16:13:48 <ketas> at least it would be easier to get diffs there :p
16:14:28 <ketas> directly from wd
16:14:29 <ketas> hmm
17:09:07 <nerozero> Hi, I never worked with different routing tables ( fibs ) so let me ask some questions
17:10:30 <nerozero> 1 have configured 3 nets  igb1, igb2 - two ISPs ... igb0 - lan
17:10:51 <nerozero> igb1 is in fib 0, while igb2 in fib 2
17:11:31 <nerozero> lets imagine situation when igb1 is down - isp1 - down
17:12:35 <nerozero> the routing still holds but the local dns resolver - bind which sitting in FIB0 cannot do queries
17:13:54 <nerozero> so If i do `setfib 1 service named restart` the bind starts working, locally.... but I cannot query DNS from igb0 ( lan ), all requests is timed out ...
17:14:39 <nerozero> despite the bind still opens sockets on a local interface igb0
17:14:40 <ketas> are you the same one
17:15:29 <ketas> or maybe not
17:15:51 <ketas> damn routings suck
17:16:21 <nerozero> a shorter version of a question
17:16:51 <ketas> it's a problem i can't imagine how to get right
17:17:00 <nerozero> why I can query bind running in fib0 and cannot while it runs in fib1
17:17:27 <ketas> it sends reply into wrong place
17:17:36 <ketas> would be it
17:17:38 <ketas> maybe
17:18:33 <ketas> now how to make bind route both right
17:18:35 <ketas> no idea
17:19:43 <ketas> use route get 1.3.4.5 to unfuck this
17:19:46 <ketas> somehow
17:20:07 <ketas> maybe pf needs to be involved
17:20:14 <nerozero> ketas, are you some kind of AI ?
17:20:24 <Teraii> lol
17:20:30 <ketas> no
17:21:10 <Teraii> consider using pf instead of interfaces
17:21:14 <Teraii> pass in on em0 to !<localnets> rtable 1
17:21:15 <Teraii> etc
17:23:39 <Teraii> via interfaces only the incoming packets are tagged on the interface fib
17:24:21 <nerozero> so I need to somehow route local - this machine traffic ...
17:25:11 <Teraii> and if you want some bind responding on two fib , must be two instances of bind ...
17:25:11 <nerozero> ok, need to dive deeper into IPFW ...
17:25:41 <nerozero> Teraii, I cannot connect bind running in different fib !
17:25:47 <nerozero> that is the issue at the moment
17:26:02 <Teraii> and you can't ever
17:26:12 <nerozero> but why ?
17:26:17 <Teraii> only one fib at a time
17:26:25 <Teraii> for one process
17:26:32 <nerozero> and natting between them ?
17:26:40 <Teraii> (with setfib X process)
17:26:55 <Teraii> natting if not routing
17:27:21 <Teraii> natting is not routing
17:27:23 <nerozero> something like ipfw add xxx setfib 1 ip all from any to any rcvd in . ,, ??
17:27:24 <Teraii> sorry
17:27:43 <ketas> rdr it?
17:28:36 <Teraii> i do not use ipfw for long time ago :)
17:29:06 <ketas> nat has other uses too i found
17:29:09 <ketas> btw
17:29:09 <Teraii> but i think it's the same way as pf
17:29:29 <nerozero> I stick to it .. it faster... and my brain is not big enough for changin things to PF ..
17:29:45 <ketas> i had to connect into device which has no routing in it
17:29:48 <Teraii> mine too :)
17:29:49 <ketas> no defgw
17:30:03 <ketas> so you can't access it from far away
17:30:12 <ketas> so i had to nat it
17:30:14 <nerozero> yeah ,... i'm getting old
17:30:21 <ketas> fun
17:30:46 <ketas> nat made all packets come as if from same ip and it worked :p
17:31:47 <ketas> what would happen if you rdr the bind traffic?
17:31:58 <ketas> tho outgoing is still sucky
17:33:00 <ketas> oh i don't like to think of it
17:33:13 <ketas> feels like my brain wants out
17:34:39 <Teraii> yea it's not easy
17:36:45 <ketas> meanwhile, how to make openvpn listen on all interfaces and both families?
17:36:51 <ketas> kind of same
17:37:09 <Teraii> ensure you have default route on each fib
17:37:38 <ketas> me?
17:37:54 <ketas> it's just 1 fib here
17:37:56 <Teraii> yes
17:38:11 <ketas> i gave up on v6 and just ran ovpn on v4 only
17:38:12 <Teraii> fib0 or fib1 ? :)
17:38:20 <Teraii> fib0 is the default
17:38:21 <ketas> managed to make it work
17:38:38 <ketas> i have other fibs tho
17:38:43 <nerozero> Teraii, thanks ...
17:38:45 <ketas> but i run ovpn in 0
17:39:12 <Teraii> ;)
17:39:17 <nerozero> the machines from the local network has no issues reaching outside world with both providers
17:39:17 <ketas> i have wan #1 that's inet & wan #2 that's my iptv
17:39:32 <nerozero> I'm having issues with bind only ..
17:39:35 <ketas> should have wan #3 that's lte so there it's real fun
17:40:37 <ketas> well you can't run bind with two tables
17:40:47 <ketas> so put bind into fib0
17:42:43 <ketas> could maybe even nat it?
17:43:00 <ketas> that's a stupid idea maybe
17:43:17 <ketas> in any way packets need to route right
17:46:57 <ketas> so
17:47:07 <ketas> bind works where?
17:49:02 <ketas> if bind only works towards network it has default route for
17:49:09 <ketas> then you know :p
17:52:25 <ketas> should probably make some virtual test to try here
17:52:41 <ketas> but why rdr won't work here?
17:55:57 <ketas> like imagine if your dns is separate machine igb3
17:56:17 <ketas> how would you get traffic there :)
17:56:37 <ketas> s/igb3/on igb3/
17:57:52 <ketas> fun, i didn't know, igb was merged into em but it represents itself as igb
18:07:06 <ketas> i looked what i have created in my pf
18:07:22 <ketas> it has extensive rdr's
18:09:23 <ketas> and 2 nats which aren unconventional
18:09:33 <ketas> eg they aren't on wan
18:12:18 <mzar> ketas: please don't scare people seeking help here
18:12:31 <ketas> what
18:50:20 <Reinhilde> mzar, i fail to see how ketas is scaring folk, although i have him dimmed in my irc client so it's harder for me to read what he says
18:51:24 <ketas> why the dims
18:51:34 <ketas> :p
18:52:23 <ketas> funnily, certain types of translations have like certain use cases
18:52:30 <ketas> but they have others too
18:59:01 <mzar> Reinhilde: no worries, it was a joke, I tried to cheer him up only; but why you dimmed him... it's scary
19:05:50 <ketas> hah
19:06:03 <mzar> :=D
19:06:09 <ketas> it's so dark now
20:24:53 <vkarlsen> He scares me, especially when he's in the dark
20:36:50 <ketas> where did daddy touch you
20:40:33 <ek> Right in the PS/2 port.
20:43:29 <Ltning> Is there a way, with zdb or something, to find the recordsize of a specific file on ZFS?
20:46:56 <mzar> zfs get recordsize path/to/dataset
20:55:49 <Ltning> *file*, not dataset
20:56:30 <Ltning> I have a dataset that was created with recordsize=1M, and some very large files. I have since changed the recordsize to 128K (it had side effects I did not consider), and now need to rewrite those files that still have recordsize 1M.
20:56:42 <CrtxReavr> vkarlsen, show me on this doll where he hurt you.
20:57:04 <kevans> hmm
20:58:14 <kevans> Ltning: I think `stat -f %k` would be sufficient if you're fine with the fact that files < recordsize will have a smaller blksize
20:58:35 <kevans> basically, you can't assume == 1M, you have to assume that >128K means they were written with 1M recorsize
21:00:48 <Ltning> Yeah, that works. Brilliant, thanks!
21:01:28 <Ltning> Too bad zfs rewrite does not handle record size changes :(
21:02:12 <Ltning> I feel that bears mentioning in the man page
21:03:01 <kevans> hmm, yeah, that'd be a good note
21:03:33 <mzar> So, bummer!
21:03:43 * kevans looks around for a zfser to prod, maybe they'll decide that having it rewrite with the new record size is easier than amending the manpage
21:04:05 <Ltning> That would be even better, obviously.
21:14:45 <vkarlsen> CrtxReavr: It was in the ps/2 port, all the way
21:15:36 <vkarlsen> And he used a DIN plug
21:20:38 <ketas> lmfao
21:35:03 <kevans> Ltning: word on the street is that making zfs-rewrite do it would be a major rework, unfortunately, so I suppose documenting it will have to suffice
21:36:14 <Ltning> kevans: thanks for checking. It's strange, but .. i won't pretend to have the brain power to understand why. ;)
21:37:30 <kevans> the short version is that the bits behind it don't actually rewrite the layout, just dirties up blocks