00:22:15 kind of sucks that i had to have picked the worst usb drives ever to boot freebsd with :) 00:22:55 the supermicro 1u i have has two internal on board usb ports and i put 2 128GB pny usb drives in it that were low profile to mirror and they go ridiculously slow 00:42:10 I feel like I must have misunderstood. Did you say that you're mirroring USB thumb drives? 00:51:45 yes. usb drives for booting 00:52:32 i've had 2 usb drives in my fbsd nas for years :) 00:57:47 i'm not really sure what happened with these. maybe the pny usb drives are just garbage 00:57:57 I thought maybe you had committed some kind of awful crime and mirroring USB drives was your form of penance. 00:58:12 lol 00:58:22 it works fine for booting 00:58:35 You have more on them than just /boot ? 00:58:47 well.. unless you get pny drives i guess 00:58:49 no. zroot 00:58:52 mirrored 00:59:34 i've had a couple die on me before. just pop the broken one out, replace with a new one, zpool replace it, done 00:59:59 those were the sandisk fits .. the really low profile small ones 01:00:12 Is at least USB 3? 01:00:37 well. the drives are. the ancient 1u i have them in only has usb2 ports 01:01:13 i have a dom for my ancient isilon but i never had a chance to put it in and yank the SDs because i really don't want to play with the nas since it just works (tm) 01:01:31 s/SDs/USB drives 01:02:00 plus i'd lose redundancy since there is only 1 dom port :/ 01:03:24 i need to get 2 that work in the 1u so i can install proxmox and migrate my jails and containers to the 1u so i could use the ryzen i'm currently using as a fbsd server 01:03:46 which is on an asrock x570d4u board with ecc and 2 nvmes 10:04:20 is there some way to use passthru with securelevel enabled? 14:26:14 Hi guys, my znc is still down 14:34:40 I changed the cable of Ethernet, but the problem is still there.. And I finally uploaded the output of ifconfig, and I will post it; hopefully someone help me :) 14:36:43 I really need help :( 14:58:00 I have a headset, when the computer is loading FreeBSD, starts to give high pitched noise or feedback when it gets detected. It has happened under multiple versions of FreeBSD and BSD variants so I assume it might be kernelĀ  or kernel adjacent. Any thoughts or if I should create a bug report? 14:58:34 I hate cloudflare.. 14:58:41 I can't use pastebin 14:58:52 bloated JS 15:04:43 AI bots here and there.. Internet is really dead 15:23:01 Sure. Internet is the parody horizon for darpa 15:30:51 Or CERN, conspiracy begins now XD 15:47:32 https://dpaste.com/DTMDEVJXR.txt 15:47:48 Here is it, please someone check 15:52:30 I am not using static IP, and I tried but no luck, also tried restarting the netif and much more.. still no luck :( 15:56:13 I'd call the "inet 0.0.0.0" line unusual, but otherwise ok 15:58:36 jgh: then my problem is just begin unlucky :( 15:59:55 I think the router is blocking me for some reason.. 16:00:25 I rested it many times disabled security 16:00:25 can you ping the IRC server? traceroute? telnet the IRC port on the IRC server? 16:00:59 I can't even ping my router's ip.. 16:01:10 Host is down 16:02:04 All of this happened after using pulseaudio.. 16:02:18 *I begin using 16:02:33 I disabled from startup but no luck.. 16:02:51 can you see the router in fdb table 16:05:47 and what address is in line: inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 16:06:01 How is your interface configuration? 16:07:20 Wait let me check 16:11:05 pasiz: you mean rc.conf 16:12:49 Yes. But you said you are not using fixed ip? 16:13:03 so if dhcp, where the 0.0.0.0 is coming? 16:13:10 yeah 16:13:14 I don't know 16:13:30 can you tcpdump dhcp req -> offer 16:15:53 I want to mention that I am now connected using my sim card, and I need to disable it and reconnect using my ethernet cable; so I lose coneection and I talked to the owner of my znc.. he said fixing will take sometime. So please send me all the commands you need 16:16:59 before I move back to my Ethernet cable to test them 16:17:15 and I am using all-in-one ISP router 16:17:28 oh 16:18:14 for nearly 10 years now 16:19:17 can you verify with some other device that the router is working 16:19:32 yeah done it and it's working 16:19:55 and I used same cable and new cables, also Wifi 16:21:00 Is changing my MAC will fix it? like I can see that router is blocking only my device 16:27:30 your mac seems to belong to HP devices 16:28:05 So you cannot login to your router? 16:30:11 Direct wifi using USB adapter no luck.. It only works when I use hotspot (Want also to mention, that fix can't last; Bec. I borrowed someone's old smartphone, to test that. the only phones that I have is a really old landline phone from 60s, and my Nokia C2 cellphone) 16:30:20 pasiz: No 16:35:06 *C2-01 16:35:54 pasiz: Could it be the problem? 16:36:29 I will disconnect to try your commands.. 16:40:17 Wait I will go to eat, so I will leave the IRC connected; If you want send anything. 17:01:10 Retrofan: just remove that 0.0.0.0 address, maybe you have a misconfigured jail or sth? 17:17:32 Back 17:17:51 divlamir: how could I do that? 17:18:31 I only configured pulseaudio in jail 17:18:50 but the problem lasts even I disable it 17:19:14 ifconfig bge0 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 delete 17:19:31 what is the jail's IP ? 17:19:40 I will try it now 17:19:53 divlamir: it's a chroot jail 17:19:58 and now is disabled 17:21:36 Leaving.. 17:22:02 Can you ping the router after removing the 0.0.0.0 address? 17:25:13 hrm, nextdns is blocking dpaste.com 17:42:03 Back 17:42:13 tested everything 17:42:51 inet 0.0.0.0 was no more there after I reconnected, so didn't do anything about that 17:43:58 Tcpdump give me that error "tcpdump: can't parse filter expression: syntax error" 17:44:20 With the output file empty 17:45:16 to monitor dhcp you need a filter like 'port 67 or port 68' 17:45:34 I think fdb described the real problem.. 17:45:51 ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on bge0 expired [ethernet] 17:45:53 ? (192.168.1.4) at 10:60:4b:69:94:cc on bge0 permanent [ethernet] 17:46:30 I also get expired for my mac on the router page which I accessed on another machine 17:47:14 divlamir: ah, but how can monitor all ports 17:47:18 do you need static arp ? 17:47:24 *I 17:47:45 mzar: it's nor static 17:47:49 *not 17:48:14 I connect then I get a new IP, after that the router block me.. 17:48:29 This after the block 17:48:58 I can't get what happens between them it's so fast.. I need to set something to monitor 17:50:56 so now you have a single address 192.168.1.4? No more 0.0.0.0 trash? 17:51:56 can you confirm? 18:02:54 yeah 18:22:58 Oh, no.. I read now on some blog RSS I subscribed to, that even notepad got AI now :( 18:25:12 "Even better replacing it with the one from Windows 8.1 or launch Windows 10 just completly screws up the OS." 18:43:21 It was good idea moving to Freebsd, but now Ethernet is not working :/ 18:59:18 "I think fdb described the real problem.." Oh, that is ARP.. my bad 19:35:35 Back 20:30:49 . 20:31:26 Look like no hope, I rechecked all my confs and nothing strange 20:34:47 But I want to say that before what happened (I unplugged then re plugged the cable that day), the internet was lagging, even when I use another machine.. but now, with my computer blocked, connection is stable 20:35:51 As I remember that begin happenin when I started working on setting up Ubuntu debbootstrap jail 20:46:45 Are you sure you didn't assign the same IP address to that jail and something else? 20:47:06 same IP address of my machine 20:47:09 ? 20:48:00 V_PauAmma_V: it's changeable DHCP 20:49:03 Can your DHCP server tell you which IP addresses it handed to which MAC addresses? 20:49:24 You mean router? 20:49:26 yeah 20:49:44 but it listed as something like expired 20:50:53 If your router is also your DHCP server, yes, that's what I meant. 20:51:04 yeha 20:51:17 mine is ISP all-in-one router 20:51:39 V_PauAmma_V:expired 20:52:21 I'm not sure what you mean. What is expired? 20:52:36 my ip 20:53:03 it dosen't want to renew it 20:53:18 I tried static also no luck 20:54:02 Hmm. Sounds like your router (hence, your ISP) may be the problem or part of it. 20:54:14 No 20:54:28 Bec. I rested it 3 times 20:54:59 disabled security and firewall, works with any other machine 20:55:32 I think it blocks me for something on my device, but I don't know what is 20:55:53 Then only think I have done that day is unplug my cable then re plug it 20:56:16 after that no internet just connected to router but blocked 20:57:56 is that 0.0.0.0 in ifconfig showing up a failed attempt of setting a default route? 20:58:06 it happened before nearly 2 months ago, but when unplug and re pluged again it many times, fixed the problem.. but tried that now, no luck (I have done that like 100 time) 20:58:06 Hence, "part of the problem". As in, you may have several things, on your router or on that specific machine, conntributing to the symptoms you observe. Does your router have a "reset/restart this port" command or menu option? 20:59:53 let me check 21:01:29 No, only rebooting the whole router 21:01:50 V_PauAmma_V: Done that many times 21:02:25 ridcully: 0.0.0.0 is gone now 21:02:35 and I think so 21:05:28 Have you tried using tcpdump (or wireshark, or another front-end to tcpdump, or another capture utility) to capture the traffic between that machine and your router? That may give you a clue why your router does whatever it does. 21:05:55 wireshark.. 21:06:11 I will download it now 21:06:44 Especially relevant would be the DHCP and ARP traffic, I think. 21:06:58 also check arp in case it is duplicate ips 21:08:08 checked before.. 21:08:14 no duplicate ips 21:08:50 ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on bge0 expired [ethernet] 21:08:53 ? (192.168.1.4) at 10:60:4b:69:94:cc on bge0 permanent [ethernet] 21:09:20 my router's ip listed as expired, and the router lists me expired also.. 21:10:11 As I said, ARP and DHCP traffic capture may shed some light on the problem. 21:11:08 ops 21:11:44 it needs root access, and there is no X server running on root sid 21:11:47 *side 21:14:02 IN that case, you'll need to use tcpdump (with su or sudo or whatever) for capturing and saving, then wireshark to view the saved capture. 21:14:24 Ok 21:17:35 V_PauAmma_V: How could I monitor all ports using it 21:18:58 You mean "what tcpdump syntax to use for capturing"? 21:25:34 yeah all ports 21:26:10 not only spefic one 21:26:48 Hold on. I need to refresh my memory of tcpdump syntax. 21:27:09 Ok 21:30:48 heh 21:31:11 fixed it, now wireshark can capture on non-root ones 21:32:56 V_PauAmma_V: I will go now for testing it 21:33:29 * V_PauAmma_V nods. 21:35:17 V_PauAmma_V: dhcp4 is `udp and (port 67 or port 68 or port 69)` iirc 21:36:06 so for ARP + DHCP4 it's `arp or (udp and (port 67 or port 68 or port 69))` 21:36:23 and NDP + DHCP6 is ip6 and ((udp and (port 546 or port 547)) or (icmp6 and ((ip6[40] == 133) or (ip6[40] == 134)))) 21:36:34 Thanks, but since they figured out how to use wireshark, I'll go with that. 21:41:50 I need to add the first one to my scratchpad 21:43:44 Back.. 21:43:51 also found the problem 21:44:11 Good. What was it? 21:44:37 (speaking of wireshark, I remember when I wanted to use its GUI on Windows to monitor my FreeBSD router's WAN interface, PuTTY's plink works perfectly for that) 21:45:36 The Arp in wireshark was only saying after the connection "Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.4" 21:46:00 But it not true! 21:46:17 Reversed 21:48:01 Oh I could see my IRC msg plain on wireshark.. 21:48:20 I thought 192.168.1.4 was the address of bge0 on the machine having the problem. 21:48:30 it's my pc 21:48:37 and 192.168.1.1 is my router 21:49:00 Is it your PC that has the problem? 21:49:10 yeah 21:49:16 I am connected using sim card now 21:49:31 my pc ip was 192.168.1.4 21:49:34 I dunno this looks like there's no link 21:50:04 Retrofan, is your router replying to that ARP request? 21:50:31 I think it should be "Who has 192.168.1.4? Tell 192.168.1.1" 21:50:50 if you're dumping on your PC it should not be like that 21:51:35 your PC asks the host 192.168.1.1 to reply with its MAC address to 192.168.1.4 21:52:08 so [22:45:35] The Arp in wireshark was only saying after the connection "Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.4" is correct 21:52:22 or am I wrong? 21:52:54 Yeah, what Remilia said. Next question is whether your router answers to that. 21:53:05 (And what it answers.) 21:53:21 I would honestly like to know what `ifconfig` shows for media 21:53:27 on that interface 21:53:46 V_PauAmma_V: how could I reverse it? 21:53:56 Retrofan: is your PC the router? 21:54:23 you should only reverse it if 192.168.1.4 is the router 21:55:07 Remilia, that (ifconfig) would have been my next question. AFKing for a few minutes to wash dishes. 21:55:17 I'm not sure what you are doing, but once again, ARP who-has IP1 tell IP2 means 'Hello, I am IP2, and I want IP1 to tell me its MAC' 21:59:45 V_PauAmma_V: Back again, if you said something please repost it 22:04:00 It went off agian 22:04:21 I don't know why my connection is not stable now.. 22:07:18 I set default gateway before but no luck.. 22:18:20 Back. 22:18:34 Help please :( 22:19:21 Firewall is also disabled on my machine 22:21:10 should I disable it using /etc/sysctl.conf 22:23:03 V_PauAmma_V: Wait I will try something 22:23:10 Disconnect... 22:23:13 Retrofan, the next 2 questions are: 1- in that capture you have, did the router (192.168.1.4) reply to your PC and what, and 2- what "ifconfig bge0" (or whatever the interface on your PC attached to the same Ethernet as the router) show for "media" and status 22:23:46 XD 22:24:03 This the problem.. my router is not 192.168.1.4 22:24:15 it is 192.168.1.1 22:24:24 and my pc is 192.168.1.4 22:24:55 Yeah, I gotr confused or misremembered. Sorry. 22:25:12 No problem :) 22:25:33 Retrofan, the next 2 questions are: 1- in that capture you have, did the router (192.168.1.1) reply to your PC (.4) and what, and 2- what "ifconfig bge0" (or whatever the interface on your PC attached to the same Ethernet as the router) show for "media" and status 22:25:36 just laughing about the weird problem 22:25:54 my pc thinks himself is 192.168.1.1 22:26:03 and router is 192.168.1.4 22:26:22 which what it got from DHCP in begin 22:26:51 V_PauAmma_V: https://dpaste.com/DTMDEVJXR.txt 22:27:14 take a look at my ifconfig.. and forget about 0.0.0.0; it's not here anymore.. 22:28:57 V_PauAmma_V: https://dpaste.com/DTMDEVJXR.txt 22:28:57 take a look at my ifconfig.. and forget about 0.0.0.0; it's not here anymore.. 22:28:57 I resended it bec. I don't know if it send 22:28:57 *sent 22:29:14 "inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255" Is that your most recent ifconfig? 22:29:49 (nore the ".5", which is neither .1 nor .4) 22:32:48 Back 22:32:57 V_PauAmma_V: https://dpaste.com/DTMDEVJXR.txt 22:33:01 take a look at my ifconfig.. and forget about 0.0.0.0; it's not here anymore.. 22:33:12 I don't know I am disconnecting 22:33:43 *why 22:34:18 (nore the ".5", which is neither .1 nor .4) 22:34:24 "inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255" Is that your most recent ifconfig? 22:34:51 No my current was same but with 192.168.1.4 22:35:10 inet 192.168.1.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 22:35:41 V_PauAmma_V: It changes bec. it's DHCP 22:36:17 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) 22:36:28 status: active 22:39:19 OK. I'm still waiting for an answer to question 1 above. 22:41:17 Back 22:41:30 V_PauAmma_V: It changes bec. it's DHCP 22:41:31 inet 192.168.1.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 22:41:39 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) 22:41:45 status: active 22:42:46 Yeah 22:42:53 I will send the dump 22:43:51 V_PauAmma_V: accept it.. 22:45:54 Done. Had to remember how to use DCC. Hold on, trying to look. 22:46:24 Wait I uploaded it online 22:46:28 https://filebin.net/slcz2egiu1wjrxql/dump.pcap 22:46:54 V_PauAmma_V: take a look 22:49:05 Looks like that Wireshark was lagging the connection now, I closed it.. 22:58:09 Retrofan: and please keep in mind for the future that ARP who-has IP1 tell IP2 means 'Hello, I am IP2, and I want IP1 to tell me its MAC', in standard English order 22:58:56 Yeah 22:58:59 like in 'who has cookies? tell me'; you wouldn't say 'who has me? tell cookies' 22:59:13 so I do not understand why you wanted to reverse it 22:59:35 But as I can see any other connection is reversed 22:59:48 *on machine 23:00:28 I'm not sure what you mean 23:01:45 I mean on my hotspot was reversed 23:01:59 and any other machine I try 23:02:02 PC 23:02:14 ARP always works the same way 23:02:15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol 23:02:47 the 'tell' part is Target Protocol Address in the diagram 23:02:57 it's very literally the last field 23:04:21 Ok, but 192.168.1.4 is not IP1 23:04:33 I'm sorry, can you read again? 23:05:13 192.168.1.4 sends an ARP message: 'Who has the address 192.168.1.1 (router)? if you do, please tell 192.168.1.4, thanks' 23:05:40 Wait 23:06:02 So it's a public msg on the network? 23:06:12 it's ARP, Address Resolution Protocol 23:06:22 I'm looking at the capture, and I see repeated ARP requests (who-has) but no replies. 23:06:30 yeah 23:06:38 I was pinging 192.168.1.1 23:07:45 So it looks like your router is ignoring 192.168.1.4, for whatever reason. 23:08:13 if there's no traffic at all besides ARP who-has, maybe that router port is in a VLAN or something 23:08:16 yeah, I think it's a block 23:08:37 VLAN? 23:09:04 Remilia: https://filebin.net/slcz2egiu1wjrxql/dump.pcap 23:09:04 also some ISP routers, especially PON stuff, often have only one port available for your devices, with the other reserved for IPTV set top boxes 23:09:37 I do not need your capture from your PC sorry, it would not tell me anything about your router configuration 23:10:10 How could I get you router configuration? 23:10:28 I don't think it would help in any way 23:10:56 did you already try turning the router off and on? because if you did and it did not help, the port this PC is connected to is either in a VLAN or dead 23:11:07 unless there's some setting to disable ports 23:11:20 try a different port to see if it works 23:11:50 tbh trying a different port would be my first step 23:11:51 Remilia: I rested the router 3 times and restarted it 30 times, and changed the port 100 time 23:12:10 This problem is here for 2 weeks now 23:12:21 Tried all I know 23:12:44 boot your PC off liveUSB Linux, WinPE or something and test network there 23:13:01 maybe your NIC doesn't work well with the FreeBSD driver 23:13:38 It happened after I unplug then re plug the cable.. 23:14:15 Also, happened a month ago.. fixed by changing the port.. but now no luck 23:14:35 Remilia: I think it will work 23:14:45 IF I changed the OS 23:15:35 NIC is working like a charm with freebsd 23:15:41 if it works in a different OS it is a driver issue 23:15:56 NIC is working like a charm with freebsd 23:16:02 *I think it will work 23:16:10 not really working 23:16:20 I never tested 23:16:40 but the problem happend when I just unpluged the cable 23:16:49 from router side 23:17:07 and cable is working well on any other machine 23:17:37 When you say you reset the router, do you mean you powered it off and on, or something else? 23:17:59 No, get it back to factory settings 23:18:04 3 times 23:18:04 I sincerely doubt your router blocks ports based on OS detection heuristics, so if there's carrier but no traffic whatsoever, the port (ports) is (are) dead, unless you have other wired devices that work 23:18:27 all wired devices works well 23:18:38 Also Wi-fi 23:18:45 evverything 23:18:54 if the same PC works with Linux Live USB then it's a NIC driver issue 23:19:13 wi-fi does not matter, it is a completely different thing 23:19:15 Have you tried turning it off and on? That's what Remilia was asking earlier, I think. 23:19:42 Remilia: I never tested that, just pretending.. 23:20:00 V_PauAmma_V: +50 time 23:20:05 also if the PC gets an IP from the DHCP server when trying network boot it's also a NIC driver issue 23:20:28 network boot? 23:20:39 I am not doing that 23:21:03 I'm very sadly not telling you to do that or that you are doing that 23:21:36 I'm telling you that if BIOS network boot can obtain an IP over DHCP from the router but FreeBSD has no NIC traffic whatsoever, it's a NIC driver issue 23:22:05 I know that only strange and bizarre problems happens to me :~( 23:22:40 also check dmesg for errors from the driver 23:22:51 * Retrofan laughs 23:23:02 Remilia: No errors 23:23:29 checked before 23:23:32 then there's no point in continuing until you can confirm that your PC's NIC actually works 23:23:39 Driver works well 23:23:43 How? 23:23:50 how can you tell that the driver works well? 23:24:06 FWIW, I can see traffic that was captured from other hosts including to and from a Libera IRC server, so I'm not sure the driver is part of the problem. 23:24:13 oh 23:24:30 then that's out 23:24:57 I don't think that driver will broke form just unplug the cable without even rebooting the PC 23:25:03 *from 23:26:02 Remilia: The all internet connection even on Wi-fi was lagging when I connect from about a month before that problem happen 23:26:21 nice 23:26:25 When I started using debboostrab Jail 23:26:33 nice :? 23:26:38 * Remilia goes to bed since it's half past midnight 23:27:36 :( 23:38:44 Last attempt.. 23:39:11 The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced (part of) your problem is with your router or router port. I suggest you ask your ISP tech support for help, if you haven't already. 23:39:35 ISP tech XD 23:40:33 V_PauAmma_V: my ISP tech knowledge is same as 5 years old kid (Pretending if they even replied).. 23:41:50 If that's the case (which would sadly not surprise me), try another ISP with better tech support? 23:42:59 In my country tech support is like trash, and all other ISPs is just separate ones from the main I am using 23:45:06 *all support.. 23:46:41 I will leave now; for my last attempt..