00:43:37 <ivy> dch: you're core, right?  do you have a sec for a PM?
00:54:36 <impulse> where is PS1 set? i have it set in /etc/profile, but it looks like it's being overwritten when i invoke bash.
00:56:18 <ivy> impulse: you may have a $HOME/.shrc file which sets it, this is created automatically from /usr/share/skel
00:57:14 <impulse> oh i do. thanks ivy.
01:58:30 <CrtxReavr> or ~/.bashrc
01:59:01 <CrtxReavr> Or /usr/local/profile
01:59:19 <CrtxReavr> whoops
01:59:22 <CrtxReavr> Or /usr/local/etc/profile
01:59:29 <CrtxReavr> Or /usr/local/etc/bashrc
01:59:46 <CrtxReavr> bash kinda loves config file possiblities.
02:04:52 <CrtxReavr> Also ~/.bash_profile
02:08:39 <impulse> /usr/local/etc/bashrc doesn't seem to work
02:09:19 <impulse> also /etc/profile.d/* doesn't seem to be executed when i `su`
02:09:53 <CrtxReavr> su -
02:10:10 <CrtxReavr> 'su' is just become root.
02:10:33 <CrtxReavr> 'su -' is be root and load root's login config.
02:11:07 <CrtxReavr>  /usr/local/etc/profile is for bash logins.
02:11:25 <CrtxReavr> /usr/local/etc/bashrc and ~/.bashrc is for non-login bash executions.
02:14:04 <CrtxReavr> Caveat: It's common for peope to add a close to their bash login config like: https://bpa.st/3V6KI
02:15:03 <impulse> in their ~/.bashrc?
02:16:37 <impulse> so when i open a new terminal in xorg that counts as a non-login?
02:16:58 <CrtxReavr> Usually, yes.
02:22:02 <impulse> `su -` doesn't look like it executes /etc/profile.d/* either
02:22:06 <CrtxReavr> But some terminals have a runtime or config option to launch a login shell.
02:24:25 <impulse> i'm using rxvt-unicode. is there a good BSD licensed alternative?
05:21:38 <wavefunction> alacritty, foot, quite a few MIT/BSD licensed terminals
06:28:56 <SponiX> I'm team KDE Plasma, and just use Konsole
06:32:55 <divlamir> foot and wezterm here :)
06:39:07 <divlamir> Still no SMP, SponiX ?
06:42:52 * kenrap silently tosses in ghostty as an alternative
06:43:52 <SponiX> divlamir: no, hoping to post a new screen shot or two tomorrow of it failing to boot and add that to the bug report
06:45:04 <SponiX> divlamir: I'm debating actually swapping out my board/cpu/ram for a different set to see if that cures it. the Asus X99 Sabertooth boards all died for other folks years ago, and mine quit retaining the UEFI settings if it loses power (yes I've swapped in a fresh battery)
14:01:41 <CrtxReavr> What's wrong with rxvt-unicode?
14:02:01 <CrtxReavr> BTW, urxvt doesn't do a full login shell unless you start it with -ls
14:03:37 <nimaje> why would a treminal emulator started from a graphical session start a login shell?
14:03:57 <CrtxReavr> People have their reasons.
14:04:14 <CrtxReavr> But it's a non-default option, so. . . what do you care?
14:06:16 <mns> Doesn't that decide how your shell startup scripts are processed?
14:08:22 <CrtxReavr> Yeah.
18:29:13 <kindrobot> neither vscode nor vscodium is in pkg. is the only options ports or is there an unofficial pkg mirror somewhere that has vscode/codium?
18:36:43 <rtprio> it looks like it was broken for 14, but available for 15,16
18:36:56 <rtprio> what's wrong with the port
18:40:38 <kindrobot> electron as a dependency means that compiling from ports may take up to a day on my lil laptop
18:41:09 <rtprio> well, `make install-missing-packages` might save you some time
18:41:32 <kindrobot> ahh
18:41:36 <kindrobot> didn't know about that one
18:43:25 <kindrobot> rtprio: how did you look to see that 14 was broken but 15 and 16 have it?
18:43:41 <rtprio> https://www.freshports.org/editors/vscode scroll to 'packages'
18:45:44 <kindrobot> oh, thanks!
18:46:01 <kindrobot> result of make install-missing-packages
18:46:05 <kindrobot> pkg-static: No packages available to install matching 'devel/electron37' have been found in the repositories
18:46:38 <rtprio> are you on 14?
18:48:05 <kindrobot> yeah
18:48:18 <kindrobot> 15 is in alpha right now, yeah?
18:56:08 <rtprio> pre-release
18:57:02 <kevans> alpha, yes
18:58:36 <kevans> stable/15 went to alpha4 overnight
19:30:26 <mzar> only one week and it will be STABLE
19:34:01 <mzar> there is a nuance regarding "rdr pass" in PF rules between FreeBSD 14 and 15
19:35:10 <mzar> but it's not a bug
19:43:49 <rtprio> a bug is just a feature with the confidence to ruin your day
19:44:26 <jozan> hi, i've got some Shared object "libtinfow.so.9" not found, required by "libedit.so.8" after upgrading some jails from 14.0 to 14.3, is that common?
19:44:41 <jozan> they won't start!
19:46:20 <rtprio> sounds like they need rebuilt
19:48:20 <jozan> yea sadly
20:16:13 <CrtxReavr> Or kludge past with libmap.conf
20:22:54 <CrtxReavr> Just don't start putting symlinks in lib directories.
21:01:26 <jaredj> anyone done netgraph in a jail?
21:12:40 <jaredj> noice, it initially appears to just work, when using vnet=new for the jail of course