03:08:31 rtyler: something like 15-20 hours, iirc 03:08:36 er, sorry 03:08:37 rtprio: ^ 03:09:55 (and still nothing available during that time; there's a symlink that's flipped once a repo set syncs to all mirrors to quickly update the published set, atomically) 03:46:00 @cfb ill 03:46:06 oops 06:14:24 kevans_: thanks 13:59:01 hm, what component would be a linuxemu PR? I want to report that problem with the elf interpreter being a symlink I helped to debug some days ago 14:08:06 Worth asking in #freebsd-bugs if no one has an answer here, maybe. 15:25:28 nimaje: is it with the kernel side, or linux userland construction? 16:17:03 did freebsd develop something like zram? 16:24:59 kevans_: pr #289739 path translation doesn't get applied a second time if the ELF interpreter is an absolute symlink like it is the case with userlands produced by debootstrap 16:33:06 nimaje: is this a regression or has it always been this week? 16:33:14 s/week/way/ 16:34:08 there's a change that first appeared in 14.0 that makes me wonder 16:46:23 kevans_: no idea, I only tried that because someone here had troubles some days ago and I currently don't have any system that isn't 14.3 18:09:47 Is there a way to figure out why a ZFS dataset is busy? 18:18:12 souji: perhaps with lsof, that applies to every filesystem 18:18:26 or you mean you can't do operations like unmount it? 18:20:25 (If you see slow i/o and lot of activities, you can do `zpool status` to ensure it's not doing a scrubbing) 18:21:00 `iostat` also gives you the general disk activity 18:23:19 Dereckson: I want to destroy a dataset. There isn't much load on the system right now, so I don't think thats the issue. It probably is some file that is still open or .... I'll try lsof for now. Thanks. 18:35:37 Interesting; lsof does not show any open files in that directory. To be more precise, this happens when I want to destroy a thin jail created with bastille. I had this kind of issue for some time now that somtines the datasets connected to the jail cannot be deleted or destroyed. When I have some time I'll look into it a bit more. 18:40:09 If you don't care about the opened file content you can try `zfs unmount -f` 18:41:03 bastille don't use zfs hold by the way? 18:41:48 (zfs hold allows to protect a dataset from deletion) 18:43:44 Found a way to check that easily: zfs list -t snapshot | awk 'NR>1 {print $1}' | xargs zfs holds 18:43:55 zfs holds 18:51:56 Yeah, already checked if they are hold or so. Since I wnated to destroy it anyway, zfs umount -f did the trick. 18:53:08 Not sure why this is happening now more than some month ago... But thank you for helping :) 19:22:41 hm, there are enough ports packages for stable/15 now that i can switch my test system to use pkg.f.o, right? 21:44:01 ivy: i would think so 21:44:18 i'm twiddling my thumbs waiting... patiently... for this amd64/main build to finish 21:44:35 at the current rate it's looking like 3-4 days 21:45:12 (for finished + sync, and assuming the last 2100 ports don't have any surprises) 21:45:58 the browsers are already finished and i think it's past all of the gcc/llvm flavors, so fingers crossed 21:47:46 did python get fixed? there might be a lot missing without that 21:48:11 we have python311 and a number of py311- ports, at least 21:49:05 net-snmp failed which caused 68 others to be skipped, and that's the highest-impact failure in this run 21:52:33 hmm. have noticed that FreeBSD seems to consistently be snappier than Linux, at least at the commandline. 21:52:36 have never been sure why that is 21:53:24 freebsd is probably cheating somehow to give that appearance to increase its appeal :-) 21:53:41 * kevans_ is quite unserious 22:25:25 Could be /bin/sh. It's not as featureful as bash but lacking those features does mean less parsing and therefore it can be a tad bit faster. 22:27:06 you know, that's possibly true and very easy to test 22:35:06 i've noticed taht zsh is quite sluggish, especially when its churning though oh-my-zsh and all those neat little plugins 22:35:19 its a cool shell, but you can't load it down, it will get nearly unusable 22:54:56 * TommyC uses zsh without oh-my-zsh