03:49:21 * Macer looks around for alpha 2 and johnny 5
05:32:14 <divlamir> I got some cheap thing from AleExpress last year for a home NAS, Aoostar wtr pro. 4 HDD bays, 2 SSDs, and an 8C/16T CPU. Cooling is meh, but it runs quite a few jails along with serving and backing up the home net. It's alright..
05:32:36 <ketas> hmm
05:32:47 <divlamir> for 400 euro i mean
05:33:23 <ketas> is it worth that?
05:34:01 <ketas> what was the ram
05:34:07 <divlamir> Been on 24/7 for a year already, and FreeBSD compatibility is good
05:34:22 <divlamir> it came without any, barebones
05:34:43 <ketas> what was that then?
05:35:11 <ketas> extra
05:36:00 <ketas> i bet it has use somewhere
05:36:09 <divlamir> DDR4 and nvme gen4
05:36:18 <divlamir> no ecc sadly
05:36:54 <ketas> there are smaller ones too
05:37:14 <divlamir> 4 bays was the minimum when I was shopping around
05:37:23 <ketas> you could run it as fancy external mirror drive
05:37:35 <ketas> i found upright 2 bay one
05:38:58 <divlamir> I mean, I need 4 bays, 2 is too tight for our storage needs
05:39:38 <ketas> those are cute boxes tho
05:40:40 <divlamir> Its laptop cpus, so not energy hungry..
05:41:32 <divlamir> Still 16 threads is plenty for a NAS
05:45:21 <divlamir> Oh, there's a newer model with 6 bays, and 10Gbit! Double the price of course, but if it was available last year I wouldn't hesitate. ECC too, mean as!
05:45:34 <ketas> that's 1k
05:45:39 <ketas> i see
05:45:49 <divlamir> 700$
05:46:59 <ketas> lololol 850€, shipping... 320€
05:48:52 <ketas> i think they ran low on stock
05:49:33 <divlamir> I see 700 and free shipping
05:50:01 <divlamir> They are always low on stock, I guess they make them in the family garage
05:50:32 <ketas> i think that that upright one could fall over
05:50:44 <ketas> but that does make small nas
05:51:17 <divlamir> looking at this one: https://aoostar.com/products/aoostar-wtr-max-amd-r7-pro-8845hs-11-bays-mini-pc
06:27:24 <ketas> sfp too
06:37:12 <ketas> there are ton of magical stuff from china
06:37:50 <ketas> like "zhenloong" disk enclosures
09:14:37 <nwe> How have people solved it by being able to use the
09:14:38 <nwe> gke-gcloud-auth-plugin in freebsd?
16:33:48 <mns> Where would I find the pdflatex binary?  Does not seem to be in texlive-base nor in tex-formats both of which I've gotten installed.
16:36:43 <nimaje> hm, pkg which tells me it was installed by tex-formats
16:41:34 <divlamir> pkg-provides says the same
16:43:03 <divlamir> I haven't uset TeX on FreeBSD but, does elsewhere I just install it from tug.org. Is this method supported on FreeBSD? I mean using tlmgr to manage a TeX installation instead of the port?
16:43:33 <divlamir> s/does//
16:43:43 <rtprio> i've always used the port
16:50:42 <mns> I installed tex-formats, but wasn't able to find it
16:51:27 <divlamir> it's not at /usr/local/bin/pdflatex ?
16:52:14 <CrtxReavr> Are you still using the default (t)csh shell?
16:52:33 <mns> duh!!  This was one of those problem-between-the-ears issue!  I had to do a rehash in the shell to have it show up in the path.
16:52:44 <mns> CrtxReavr: yes I'm using tcsh
16:56:24 <rtprio> just say no to tcsh
16:56:39 <CrtxReavr> For starters: file /usr/local/bin/pdflatex
16:56:48 <CrtxReavr> If it's there, then: rehash
16:57:43 <CrtxReavr> (t)csh harkens back to an age where hard drivers were slower than floppy drives, so it caches what's in your path at login, and doesn't auto-update - that's what the rehash util is for.
16:59:08 <nimaje> hm, which shell doesn't cache that? I know zsh and bash do
17:00:33 <johnjaye> maybe we need a modern unix that doesn't do that and is also not backward compatible at all
17:02:26 <nimaje> ah, well, zsh (and bash afaik) cache on first use, does tcsh really cache on startup?
17:02:50 <mzar> rehash is like manual gear shifting, you'll like it
17:03:27 <mzar> default shell is now /bin/sh, it doesn't need rehashing
17:07:21 <elfelfelf> anyone have an issue or fix with nvidia-drm-kmod, when loading the module it throws "symbol linux_kfree_async undefined"
17:07:34 <elfelfelf> im on a fresh install
18:30:20 <seti_> elfelfelf: I didnt get that but i only got it to work by using nvidia-modeset
18:30:32 <seti_> which should already be included in that package
18:30:40 <seti_> also i had to use nvidia-xconfig
20:17:07 <CrtxReavr> https://termbin.com/9e1j
20:49:50 <divlamir> https://dsimanek.vialattea.net/hell.htm