04:38:45 is 15.0 going to have open zfs 2.3.+ 04:39:14 or is that still uncertain because of things like the raidz expansion? 05:34:24 duskmoss: 2.4.0rc1 was imported several days ago, commit message says "stable/15 will receive updates from the vendor/openzfs/zfs-2.4-release branch" 05:34:37 thanks! 05:36:01 duskmoss: also, main tracks openzfs master and has had raidz expansion for ages 05:48:16 15 is gonna be great and it's not very far away 08:07:06 Please ignore this question if it's offtopic, but I was working on a Juniper router where the control plane of the router is basically two x86-64 PCs connected by an Ethernet switch and both PCs are running modified FreeBSD. One of those PCs is in the master role and the other is in the standby role. Now Juniper has implemented a high availability feature which allows one to physically pull out the master PC 08:07:08 and the backup PC is able to take over even the TCP sessions with remote devices. How is this possible? I can see that both PCs are running a custom daemon which syncs data/state between the PCs and for example, if I execute the netstat on both PCs, then I can see that same established TCP session "tcp4 0 0 10.10.122.10.61298 10.10.122.11.179 ESTABLISHED" is shown where the address of 10.10.122.11 08:07:10 belongs to remote device. 08:12:16 how can i find out the actual mfg and model of the nvme drive in my box? 08:12:35 i tried geom -t, diskinfo -v /dev/nda0, and other stuff 08:12:48 i had one before but forgot it 08:13:09 mrtnt: kind of like CARP probably. states are synced between devices with a floating router virtual IP 08:13:44 mrtnt: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/advanced-networking/#carp 08:15:46 kerneldove: dmesg should be enough, but smartmontools in ports will tell you a lot more. 08:18:14 ty 09:05:57 carneous: I'm afraid that it's not CARP. According to kldstat the CARP module is not even loaded. I made a small diagram explaing the architecture: https://i.imgur.com/53gs0lN.png The remote router has a TCP session with "MASTER routing engine" during normal operations. However, somehow the second PC("BACKUP routing engine") is also aware of this TCP session and if the "MASTER routing engine" is physically 09:05:59 pulled out from the chassis, then the "BACKUP routing engine" is able to take over this TCP session in a way that remote device does not even understand that it now has a TCP session with new computer. 09:10:38 The Juniper employee explains in https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2012-February/022419.html e-mail that the "BACKUP routing engine" listens all the messages addressed to "MASTER routing engine". This is understandable and could be even accomplished with port mirroring in the internal Ethernet switch. However, how is it possible that another PC takes over the handling of the TCP session? 09:15:10 mrtnt: cool. I said "kind of like", as in the concept, or the result. Did you see I mentioned a floating, virtual IP that can move between HA devices? The Juniper proprietary solution is interesting for you, but likely off-topic as you suggest. 09:52:25 kerneldove: both `geom disk list` and `camcontrol identify ...` list the model and serial number of the drive 09:52:57 Manifacturer is easily deduced from the model name 09:59:35 ty 10:02:00 Oh that's a miracle O_O everything is working fine now for no reason.. This problem was bothering me for years now. 10:12:30 carneous: I did some further digging and looks like Juniper has bought the solution developed by Korean Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute demonstrated in this presentation on slide number 28: https://events.static.linuxfound.org/sites/events/files/slides/Availability%20of%20Linux%20System%20using%20Redundancy.pdf And one of the components of this solution is fault-tolerant TCP explained 10:12:31 here: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/lorenzo/papers/fttcp2.pdf 10:19:20 what's the best supported single board computer for freebsd? 10:19:45 for amd64 arch 10:23:07 id be surprised if it isnt the one that has the biggest market share 10:23:46 but i have no idea how you would even measure that or validate the measurements 10:24:09 (the "best supported" bit, not the market share bit) 10:32:24 rpi u mean? 10:33:14 crab 10:33:45 id be amazed if there is a better supported aarch64 board 10:33:55 but i have done no scientific testing 10:34:02 and don't know how you would do. 10:39:18 freebsd runs on rpi? 10:39:29 does it not? 10:39:37 does? 10:39:56 https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi 10:40:21 there you go 10:40:27 there is even a matrix of what does and doesnt work 10:40:46 no rpi 5? 10:41:05 dunno 10:41:17 doesnt look like it from that wiki but i suspect there is probably a build 10:41:34 im not a heavy freebsd user, 10:41:58 but i think under debian you can use the same image on a pi4 or pi5 and id kind of expect the same for freebsd *shrug* 11:30:55 Looks like it works, somewhat... https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi%205 11:33:04 Gonna give it a spin with the rpi4, but do you know if bluetooth is working. This one is a must for me as I use it with a universal remote connected as a BT keyboard 11:38:43 Hello. I just made a huge mistake. I ran zpool create zroot /dev/gpt/zfs0 but on wrong disk. Can I restore "old" zpool witch was overwriten? 11:45:53 I thought /dev/gpt/zfs0 shouldn't be visible if already in use by a pool 11:46:54 that is true on my system 11:48:35 maybe they used a duplicate GPT label on the other disk? 11:50:36 Hi divlamir, how are you? 11:50:50 I am Retrofan 11:52:32 Hi! All good :) 11:53:08 I have strange problem here with video drivers.. 11:53:56 Don't wanna hear it X) 11:54:39 toxictrash: from everything I'm reading it sounds like it would be very very complicated and maybe impossible to recover. if you have a backup, you should recover from that 12:00:20 It's weird there was no warning that the vdev is already in use 12:28:18 I need to run SeaMonkey Linux binary for now; due to some compiling problems with native version.. But when I start it hangs on the terminal and never opens any window, and I noticed if I make my PC to go for a sleep "zzz", then wake it up.. it opens, also all GTK Linux stuff do the same. Trying without no AMD drivers loaded, works fine but in low resolution. Tried "acpi reset video"; by... 12:28:20 ...turning it temporarily, but with no luck :( So after I opened my PC today, that problem was vanished for no reason! it was there for years, which make me really worried if it get back.. and don't know any fix for it. 12:28:34 Is this a bug or something? 12:29:30 divlamir: heh XD 18:26:01 mosaid: Sorry, last time I had a FreeBSD desktop was in the 2000s. Can't help you there 19:30:44 It is time to expand a zpool, updating the two mirrored drives from 2TB to something bigger, at least 4TB. It seems that's the price point.... I get can two decent 2x4TB drives for about $500. 19:45:47 * divlamir hopes dvl is not spending $500 for more swap 19:46:03 divlamir: I need more swap, it's all gone now. 19:46:38 lol 19:47:25 better off withou swap, than data :) 21:40:23 hi all. I've just installed freebsd for the first time using the current img for ax210 wifi support (iwlwifi). /use/ports works, but searching using pkg doesn't seem to be finding any packages after pkg update. should I be working with ports instead or can I get pkg working without switching to quarterly repo? 21:43:25 ttydes: What FreeBSD version have you installed? 21:44:22 You mentioned "current img for ax210 wifi support". So is it FreeBSD CURRENT, to use this driver? 21:45:41 If so - no packages - CURRENT is an ever-evolving HEAD build. Use ports: cd /usr && git clone https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports 21:47:26 regis: I added ports tree during install which seems to be working. pkg -vv shows freebsd:15 21:48:12 pkg seems very sparse though. ie nginx, doas, neovim all missing 21:49:04 & I didn't compile the kernel just used the latest IMG I could find which I believe was 15-current 21:49:41 I would have gone with stable but didn't think WiFi would have worked 21:50:36 ttydes: Yeah, use ports from git. Packages are not being built constantly for the (development) HEAD branch for 15. Ports from git is the closest you can get to be compatible as bleeding-edge. 21:51:07 ttydes: that being said: I'm on 15 on my laptop for AX201 and have no issues. Just don't expect pkg on CURRENT.\ 21:52:10 its normal then that's fair enough. did I need to be on current for WiFi or can I drop / reinstall to stable for pkg? 21:53:08 I have no experience with AX210 on 14. 21:53:47 fair play, appreciate it. 21:53:52 You can flash some pendrive with bootable live image and test drive compatibility 21:55:40 ttydes: and note: I have AX201, not AX210. My card worked with this driver on both 14 and 15. 22:30:11 ttydes: You might have a look here: http://bsd-hardware.info/?view=search&name=ax210#list