03:35:10 fuck no freebsd does not need a 'service manager' whatever that means 03:48:17 already has one, root around in /etc/rc.d if you want 03:48:31 it's not very good, no, but it's there 03:49:28 enjoy your service manager, rtprio 03:53:00 rtprio: adding IP addresses to bridge members has always been wrong: it causes subtle issues that are hard to diagnose. the sysctl is there so you can keep doing it if you have one of the (very) few use cases we don't have a better solution for yet, like needing devd to start dhcp on a bridge member 03:59:46 Hi - im having a bit of trouble with a user account i created a few days ago. I wound up having to delete it, and now after trying to create it again it doesn't seem to be generating an entry in /etc/passwd at all - im pretty sure the first account i created i set to 'locked', but im not sure if that would have an effect. someone available for 03:59:46 brief help while i do this again? 04:00:37 right now there's no entry in /etc/group , /etc/passwd , and rmuser states there is no user with this particular name 04:01:04 after i create the user with adduser, there is a home directory, but no entry in the password file. anyone? 04:04:37 ah , got it. i missed the error im blind 04:04:58 cannot create /zroot/home/username': dataset already exists 04:05:02 please advise 04:13:11 fixed it by myself -_- as usual 04:20:54 Matt|home: That's not something you should see. zroot is your pool, and not an element of a path. It would be /home/username, not /zroot/home/username. 04:22:26 welp, the issue was fixed after deleting the zroot/home/username entry . rmuser failed to remove it so i had to do it manually. im on current latest stable release, base system, no installed packages other than gpg and it's dependencies 04:22:43 no commands run other than adduser and rmuser ls and cd, quite literally 04:24:12 ivy: that makes sense, i'm just uncertain how to plumb the vm-bhyve switches now 04:25:00 Matt|home: perhaps it was your pwd and thus was busy 04:27:15 rtprio: looking at the manual page, "vm switch address" might be what you want, although bizarrely it only seems to support a single IPv4 address 04:27:28 rtprio: in which case it might be easier to create the bridge yourself and tell vm-bhyve to use that 04:29:39 so the bridge can have the ip, but not the member; but the tap(4)'s have addresses, do they not count 04:30:18 hopefully i can just move the ip from lagg0.1 to the associated "switch" 04:30:30 ivy: also, thanks by the way 04:30:43 no bridge members (including tap interfaces) can have addresses - but why would you put addresses on the tap interfaces to begin with? 04:31:03 the usual problem here is having an address on your public interface (em0 or whatever) 04:33:05 my mistake. they just have fe80:: autoassigned ones 04:34:23 those should be removed automatically when the interfaces are added to the bridge 04:35:08 ok, i will give it a try 09:42:31 Well Freebsd hates me well ok Bind does. I can't for the life of me get forwarding to work. Resolves my local domain and no others. Yes I have acl blocks and allow recursion. 09:43:20 Never mind I'll ask in #bind. The other question howto turn off mouse pointer in terminal as it's still there in my X windows greeter. 09:43:40 Plus yesterday for some reason it decided to uninstall xfce4 which surprised me don't know why 09:59:49 hm, the mouse pointer in a tty comes from moused, but I throught it is disabled by default, look if you have moused_enabled="YES" in /etc/rc.conf 10:02:09 i think devd can sometimes enable it, you might need moused_nondefault_enable=NO (or whatever the setting is) 11:28:38 @nimaje thank you 11:35:00 @nimjae ok moused isn't enabled 11:35:24 Is there a pastebin for images here? 12:29:26 Hi all, The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon: Device: /dev/ada3, 8 Offline uncorrectable sectors . How urgent is it that I change the drive? 4 drives raidz1 in place 12:29:40 (scrub repaired 0B in 19:29:54 with 0 errors on Tue Jul 15 20:46:54 2025) 13:18:46 * dch waves to jbo 13:18:50 * jbo waves back 13:19:04 doas poudriere jail -c -j 14_3_a64 -a arm64.aarch64 -v 14.3-RELEASE -K GENERIC 13:19:04 [00:00:00] Cross-building ports for arm64.aarch64 on amd64 requires QEMU 13:19:17 I was not expecting it to build from sources when clearly packages are available 13:19:33 well I mean... it also needs the base system, right? 13:19:55 I just remember from a few years ago that dealing with QEMU to build anything for aarch64 on an x86 host was a huge PITA 13:21:27 dch, my question was specifically about poudriere-image because that would presumably have to cross-compile src too 13:21:55 once the jail's built, cross-building ports should be fine(tm) 13:22:03 jup, my question is about the base system tho 13:22:19 jbo: this should be finished in an hour or so, and then I can do a couple ports and see if poudriere-image works 13:22:30 dch, thanks - I appreciate it. 13:22:51 I dont get why that would require building from sources. Maybe I should have skipped `-K ..` but it doesn't need to build that either. 13:22:55 np 13:23:01 i'm not sure if this was fixed, but at one point cross-building ports was largely broken as you couldn't cross-build rust 13:24:00 augh 13:24:15 so no py-cryptography for example 13:24:28 right. i haven't tried for over a year though, quite possibly it was fixed in the mean time 13:24:51 yeah I generally just remember pain :p 14:59:20 does anyone have any thoughts on compile time on AMD vs Intel? 15:41:10 I think it's generally accepted that AMD is the new king for non-GPU performance. 15:41:40 There may be a few corner case tasks where Intel has the lead, but I don't think you can go wrong with AMD. 16:40:37 Curious if there are any benchmarks on compilation time. 16:42:14 Different OS, but might be useful: https://openbenchmarking.org/test/pts/build-linux-kernel&eval=2e091b8032ec35a1fdb1b678beec9531ea9c956b 16:57:51 moviuro: i would do a long test and see what itsays 16:58:29 Daniel72HertsUK: allow-recursion { any; }; 17:28:22 rtprio thanks I had that recursion yes; seems to be the magic line allow-recursion I think is just setting the acl 18:34:44 Hi - Anyone able to help me with a /very/ complicated issue regarding a USB flash drive file format? I'm not sure what channel this belongs on since it involves multiple file systems and OS's, but the main issue seems to be windows-related 18:35:52 long story short, here's the behavior: i format the drive to FAT32, works fine on windows, mount it to some other *nix system (linux, free, openbsd), works fine, take it back to windows, windows doesn't recognize it's own format. 18:36:54 so either my drive has multiple/split personality disorder or it's doing something it shouldn't 19:16:16 yup that sounds like a bad case of windows 19:18:43 seti_ - can you help briefly? I need you to tell me the exact precise command to mount a FAT32 usb flash drive on freebsd current stable. 19:18:52 the two commands i ran gave me errors 19:19:18 mount -v -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /media/usb did not work, and mount -t vfat /dev/da0s1 /media/usb did not work 19:19:35 and for some reason i can't find it on the damn handbook 19:19:38 Matt|home: Sorry I was just joking around 19:19:43 Cant help you with that 19:41:32 Matt|home: is it gpart or mdr? fdisk /dev/da0 or gpart list /dev/da0 19:50:48 Matt|home, file -s /dev/da0s1 19:56:19 Matt|home, https://termbin.com/ehp0m 21:53:09 jbo: as expected, just works. ` doas poudriere image -j 14_3_a64 -n army -o /tmp/ -t tar` and `doas poudriere image -j 14_3_a64 -n army -o /tmp/ -b -w 4g -s 10g -t usb+mfs` 21:53:31 modulo any port-building issues as mentioned already