10:35:07 hm, I noticed, that on my thinkpad x270 the screen doesn't turn off, if I close the lid, any idea how to fix that? 10:46:36 hm, should hw.acpi.video.lcd0.active be 0 and unchangeable? 11:25:48 hi 11:26:50 please help, I upgrade the userland for 14.3 to latest versions with pkg upgrade, after that xfce4-session won't start: I found a xfce4-session.core in ~/ 11:27:34 thanks for any help 11:29:55 so you upgraded to 14.3 via freebsd-update and now xfce doesn't start anymore? did you do all required reboots and runs of freebsd-update install? did you reinstall drm-kmod after the upgrade? 11:30:49 no no and no 11:30:57 freebsd-update fetch 11:31:01 shows no upgrade 11:31:14 I only issued pkg upgrade 11:31:47 slim is starting, but xfce4 session fails 11:31:55 so you started out with 14.3? does it print something to stderr when it fails? 11:32:07 nothing 11:33:20 hm, slim was a display manager? so you can't see stderr of it trying to start xfce? try to login to a tty and start xfce manually 11:37:22 nimaje: wait! 11:39:02 xfce4-power0manager unable to connect to session manager 11:47:28 :( 11:54:38 what a crap 14:30:29 Posterdati: Google found https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=17005 15:21:32 RhodiumToad_: ping; long time no chat. :-) do you have any opinions about packaging system luarocks? (is this even a sensible thing to do?) 16:55:14 wavefunction: not related to my problem 18:02:42 Posterdati: If you were to paste-bin your error message, we might be able to help. Or, there's always the option of booting into a 14.3 release on a usb stick and installing sets/upgrading/rectifying the install from there. 18:11:53 xfce starting hardly requires booting from exteral media 18:16:51 rtprio: No, but when you have a (potentially) failed upgrade, with an unknown package state, it certainly helps 18:26:17 how does it help, exactly? 22:16:47 rtprio: Posterdati / nimaje referenced a freebsd-update. If it's exclusively a package upgrade, then my suggestion is useless. 22:35:22 clear