02:19:20 <farhan> Does anyone know how to specify cmake and gmake as build dependencies for a porT?
02:20:54 <farhan> when I do "USES= gmake" I get an error saying "expecting: pattern:origin[@flavour][:target]" rather than just gmake.
02:20:57 <farhan> Fair, but what do I use?
02:21:39 <farhan> There are *multiple* instances of Makefiles that have `USES= gmake`
02:22:22 <ivy> farhan: "USES=gmake" is fine according to https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/uses/#uses-gmake.  can you show the entire port makefile?
02:22:36 <farhan> oh wait...USES makes it run `gmake` in the directory...no...I want to run a script...
02:23:25 <ivy> the port has a build script that invokes gmake?  in that case add gmake to BUILD_DEPENDS and use a custom build command
02:24:17 <farhan> that complains that I need to specify a version of gmake
02:24:33 <farhan> expecting: pattern:origin[@flavour][:target] \n got: gmake
02:24:36 <ivy> the version can be >0
02:25:31 <ivy> although looking at other ports, BUILD_DEPENDS=gmake:devel/gmake should be fine
02:25:34 <farhan> so is that like `gmake>0` ?
02:26:09 <ivy> are you sure it's complaining you need to specify a version?
02:26:33 <ivy> the error message suggests you write "BUILD_DEPENDS=gmake" while actually you need to specify both the port and the origin, i.e. gmake:devel/gmake
02:27:13 <farhan> So...that runs c++    -pthread -lgit2 -o usrbin/gitstatusd. <-- A build command. Why? I didn't specify to run `make` anywhere.
02:27:46 <farhan> https://paste.linux.chat/?310e4583e69afa8f#2tJPCUsEojZzdDKiZgSVLDuUPLQW2rBUAXc8UPsisyKp
02:28:11 <farhan> I suspect I need to overwrite the build command...
02:30:20 <ivy> it runs make by default, if your port uses another build command then see https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/special/#building, specifically you probably need to set something like MAKE_CMD=./build.sh
02:43:45 <farhan> Thank you...I apologize, beena. Few days of troubles with coding
02:45:29 <ivy> fwiw, you might also considering asking upstream to support a standard build system, or even provide a patch to do that
02:45:39 <ivy> it's not required but it does make it easier for everyone if software builds in a standard way
02:46:24 <farhan> The github itself says its not maintained. I suppose I could fork it (GPLv3)
16:37:29 <ivy> if i'm understanding this right, Apache with mod_event uses thread count to scale processes, but every child has a fixed thread count, so if you have ThreadsPerChild 64, and it currently has 64 threads and needs 1 more, it'll create a new child with another 64 threads... is that right?
16:37:44 <ivy> this seems weird and difficult to reason about, i'd rather there was just a way to specify min/max children
20:13:00 <Daniel72HertsUK> Hi all ok I've got freebsd running X with xfce4 and startxfce4 works. I'd like now to setup a greeter and get xrdp working....
20:26:49 <ek> Daniel72HertsUK: Not sure about a greeter, but xrdp is super easy.
20:26:57 <ek> What's a greeter?
20:27:41 <Daniel72HertsUK> It provides the login front end to your x windows system so asks for user/pass
20:28:09 <Daniel72HertsUK> Maybe I don't need that I just need to tell xrdp what to launch when login is successful
20:29:15 <ek> Ah. A login manager. Something like LightDM, maybe?
20:29:40 <zilti> So I'm having this extremely bizarre performance issue https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/extremely-slow-performance-but-only-in-one-direction.98580/
20:29:40 <ek> And, xrdp doesn't need a login manager. It already has one.
20:29:48 <Daniel72HertsUK> Exactly I've just installed lightdm to see if it works
20:30:17 <SponiX> FreeBSD on the Desktop is REAL!! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mQPpApd6/Screenshot_20250717_143920-1.png
20:31:45 <AmyMalik> it has been for more than 20 years, tyvm.
20:40:38 <Daniel72HertsUK> Yay got there it's not too hard actually enable xrdp daemon and mod the startwm.sh script in the xrdp directory
20:41:01 <ek> Daniel72HertsUK: Yep. Very simple.
20:41:22 <Daniel72HertsUK> My gut is  thinking it'd pay to learn sysrc?
20:41:43 <Daniel72HertsUK> Got lightdm greeter going too looks alright apart from some odd mouse move artifacts
20:41:53 <Daniel72HertsUK> Leaving black squares behind
20:42:17 <Daniel72HertsUK> What should I add to xfce4 I wonder
20:43:04 <ek> Whatever you'd like. Or nothing.
20:43:16 <Daniel72HertsUK> Anyway I can use Symphytum now which is the main reason for setting up x
20:43:53 <ek> I usually add some of the extra settings add-ons such as the control panel thingamajigger.
20:44:35 <Daniel72HertsUK> I'd find someone who is mad keen on customisation
20:45:17 <rtprio> "greeter" sounds like gdm or xdm
20:45:35 <ek> rtprio: Yeah. He went with LightDM.
20:45:44 <Daniel72HertsUK> rtprio yes I went with lightdm-gtk looks quite nice out the box actually
20:45:53 <rtprio> SponiX: heck of a screenshot there
20:45:59 <rtprio> lightdm... didn't know it does that
20:48:02 <Daniel72HertsUK> complete nube question when you pkg install there are messages at the end there must be a way of looking at those later
20:48:46 <ivy> Daniel72HertsUK: pkg info -D <package name>
20:48:48 <ek> Daniel72HertsUK: pkg info -D
20:48:54 <ivy> jinx
20:49:00 <Daniel72HertsUK> thanks
20:49:01 <ek> ivy got me! Derp! ;)
20:50:07 <ivy> Daniel72HertsUK: however note this doesn't necessarily print *all* the messages you say in pkg since package post-install scripts may print things.  postfix is particularly bad for this, for example
20:50:15 <ivy> s/you say/you saw/
20:51:21 <ek> Yep. Especially anything that set any kind of variables.
20:57:59 <ivy> wow, apache.org uses qmail for their mailing lists
20:58:57 <Daniel72HertsUK> ivy I am thinking alias pkginstall='pkg install $1 | tee install$1.txt' or a script
20:59:47 <rtprio> why is that necessary?
21:02:34 <Daniel72HertsUK> rtprio do an install with lots of dependencies sometime it's fine when there's a few but > 20
21:03:25 <rtprio> i guess
21:07:02 <Daniel72HertsUK> pkg install gimp if you haven't recently 37 dependencies all can have messages
21:07:32 <rtprio> yeah, i very much doubt there's anything actionable on any of them
21:10:01 <Daniel72HertsUK> Wow I'm seeing qpdf, cups, gutenprint, ghostscript