03:11:26 I want to restart a jail only if 'pkg -r /usr/local/containers/jail_name upgrade' actually did an upgrade. If there was nothing to upgrade, then don't restart the jail. But pkg return 0 even if there was nothing to do. Is there some other test I can perform? 04:00:11 mns: pkg will return 0 if it runs without error. Weather there is or is not an upgrade, it should finish successfully and return 0. 04:00:44 You'll probably need to parse the output of the command for certain results to kick off a restart. 04:04:53 ek: yeah I ended up doing something like: pkg -r ${j} upgrade | grep -q "Upgrading" && service jail restart ${j##*/} 04:14:09 mns: That'll work! 04:42:38 Any word off FreeBSD on m1 Mac’s ? 04:42:50 Of* 04:59:31 oxbar https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon 05:54:36 hello 05:54:59 anyone still using irc these days? 05:55:03 haha 05:59:31 ApOgEE: IRC is the primary real-time chat system for freebsd, so yes. 06:02:36 wait till you guys see how active the discord is 06:03:44 r0ni: sure, if you're after shitposting and people who think "OMG FUCK YOU YOU FUCKER!!" is a good method of communication. traffic in the actual on-topic channels, i'd say it's about even at best 06:04:48 nice to know that ivy 06:05:34 i thought irc is dead 06:06:16 i'm no fan of discord either, but it's clearly the place where the conversation is 06:07:00 in general, sure, for freebsd, i disagree. there's a lot of people talking on the freebsd discord but they mostly aren't saying anything useful 06:07:15 freebsd discussion takes places here, and in places like #bsdmips and #bsddocs on efnet 06:12:34 is there any wifi driver yet for freebsd on raspberrypi? 06:38:42 ApOgEE: no 12:56:06 does anyone here have galene working on freebsd? I notice the foundation just put out a guide for it a week ago, but this package seems to be broken - it's missing static files needed for the web UI 13:00:00 either that or it's supposed to create those files and the permissions are misconfigured by default 14:09:04 how frequently do pkgbase drop for 15? is that a thing? 19:41:52 is it possible to browse current ports somewhere ...the actual source files, not just Makefile & pkg-descr 19:47:42 hubertm: if you follow this guide: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-using it will show you how to install the source files on your local machine so you can browse them 19:48:46 jauntyd: i just don't understand how i have installed ports to one system because there's no git and no portsnaps... and therefore no idea how to update the tree 20:48:44 hubertm: Not sure how portsnap is missing but maybe you installed ports during the initial installation? 21:22:44 hubertm: pkg install git; git clone https://git.freebsd.org/ports.git 22:03:50 Does it make sense, performance-wise, to separately mount certain NFS4 shares? E.g. to mount /data/postgresql, and mount /data/storage instead of just mounting /data? 22:27:52 you're putting your database on nfs? 22:29:01 is it just too fast when you run it on local disk?