00:27:48 what's the right word for how much of a comp is in use? cpu, ram, etc 00:43:13 demido: "utilization", maybe? That's the word I tend to see in AWS docs about metrics, at least. 00:47:18 dango ya that's prolly right 00:51:05 demido: you into aws? 00:51:23 no i don't support centralization 00:51:26 you? 00:51:37 neither. but I used to do stuff on aws. 00:51:56 it's a very inefficient and thus expensive platform 00:51:58 you agree utilization is right term for how much of a comp is in use? 00:52:08 doesn't surprise me 00:52:49 well i'd say "resource utilization" is a more accurate one if you are refering to physical hardware 00:53:10 as in windows's resource monitor 00:53:25 not just physical but vm too ya? 00:53:48 yeah 00:54:23 "Resource Utilization", I like that. I'm gonna use that now. :3 00:54:49 shit you are the guy who called me a monkey last time demido 00:55:22 awesome ty for the help guys! 00:55:42 nvm we are cool 01:21:02 * pike is playing with LossyWave 01:50:21 anyone using input-leap used to be known as synergy? KVM software? 01:50:29 thought it was in ports but it is not 01:57:59 why does it take so long from powering off a linux guest until the bhyve process exits back to the command line? 07:49:26 has anyone booted an arch based iso on a bhyve vm more recently than 2016, using vm-bhyve 07:50:40 also, how do I get some more information than "bhyve exited with status 4" 10:37:54 mornings y'all 12:20:50 Hello, when I'm running freebsd-update -r XY.Z-RELEASE upgrade is there a way to skip the merge process and always install the new file? 12:21:24 and also answer "yes" to all questions 12:22:38 I'm asking this because I have all my configuration in Saltstack and I'd like to upgrade multiple jails automatically 12:23:02 <[tj]> mtll: " 4 exited due to an error" 12:25:28 well, I found that in the manpage 12:25:51 I was hoping there was some way to ascertain what the error actually was. more verbose logging, or something 12:25:51 <[tj]> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/04BKcwIK/ 12:26:08 <[tj]> there are 12 places it errors out, most have a preceeding print 12:27:10 hmm, I couldn't find anything printed anywhere 12:27:43 <[tj]> is "add logging to bhyve" an option? 12:28:26 I'll look into it some more later 12:28:56 I guess my more pressing question is, is vm-bhyve still being maintained? because it seems like some of the example configs are rather out of date 12:29:18 the arch one at least references the 2016 ISO 12:29:33 it's structured differently now, it seems based on poking around the iso FS 12:29:44 <[tj]> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1izthvND/ 12:29:57 <[tj]> you could try applying that, building and running 12:31:56 or is there some other bhyve wrapper which is more hands off? 12:32:19 most VM software, like virtualbox, I can just give it an ISO and it'll boot, for the most part 13:16:47 i just prefer to run bhyve under s6 supervision managed by s6-rc for dependencies e.g. create the bridge before the tap/vmnet device 13:38:46 Alver secure_level? Maybe that's why you can't assign an IP... maybe. I had to temporarily change a jail's security level sometime in the past, but I can't remember why 14:03:59 does zfs handle async writes on its own so there is little benefit from mounting zfs with async flag? 14:04:42 scoobybejesus_tl: it turned out to be a combination of devfs rules and (afterwards) me using a Linux ifconfig syntax on BSD 14:30:34 mage: never tried it myself but I think you can do that with the ALWAYS_INSTALL option in /etc/etcupdate.conf 14:42:21 holy shiiit 14:42:24 FUSE exfat 1.4.0 (libfuse3) 14:42:25 ERROR: 'VIDEO' directory size 32768 is not divisible by 131072. 14:42:52 how to even deal with that 16:30:07 Hi all, quick question, what's the reason that the /var/cache partition is not on its own zfs volume by default? The way it is, it's part of a snapshot of the ROOT partition 16:37:12 hc: Unsure. But, you can always make it a separate dataset. 16:38:43 ek: I just did -- for all my freebsd machines 16:38:52 Just want to make sure I didn't miss an important point 16:39:43 Not that I'm aware of. As long as /var/cache is accessible, it shouldn't make a difference how it's segregated or mounted. 16:39:51 kk, thanks! :-) 16:39:56 So far, it is working fine 16:48:34 cool! 19:49:21 How does capsicum compare to pledge? As I understand it they're both ways for an application to basically limit what they can do 20:21:10 I need to mirror 14.3-RELEASE FreeBSD-base packages locally, so I don't keep fetching them again & again & again 20:21:20 I'm on 15.0-CURRENT 20:24:34 something like this should work: `doas env IGNORE_OSVERSION=yes ABI=FreeBSD:14:amd64 OSVERSION=1403000 pkg fetch -r FreeBSD-base -Uyao .` 20:24:39 15.0's not out yet is it? Due 11th July 20:24:51 septemberish 20:25:19 Reading here https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ ahh ok stable 15 Sept 5th 20:25:29 erm decemberish https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ 20:25:53 but `pkg fetch` really doesn't want to fetch 14 bits 20:26:20 I'm a newbie so I'll take your word for it. 20:28:33 problem worked around by slinging it in a jail