01:21:54 <luser> I use an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 with the nvidia-driver-470 over three screens. No issues.
02:37:19 <ivy> what's the preferred EC curve for TLS keys nowadays?  is secp384r1 still a reasonable choice?
03:03:28 <Macer> luser: in my case the nvenc/dec would be the most important
03:03:32 <Macer> for plex or jellyfin
03:56:06 <ring0_starr> luser:  >2 screens on Kepler based cards inherently doesn't work right at the hardware level.  it forces the bus speed to maximum regardless of load and has unfixable screen tearing
03:56:17 <ring0_starr> I hate it
03:56:59 <ring0_starr> I use 2 screens max with a GTX 660 and that driver
04:33:31 <luser> I don't have screen tearing.
04:33:51 <luser> It works great.
06:01:50 <ivy> # zgrep -R 'Ns.*=' /usr/share/man/man5
06:01:50 <ivy> zgrep: the -R flag is not currently supported
06:01:55 <ivy> what a useless script
06:02:19 <ivy> we really should too many greps, i wonder if anyone would care if we just deleted most of them and left grep, egrep, fgrep and zgrep
07:14:30 <ivy> i wrote a thing (it's an acme client, because there aren't already enough of those): https://github.com/llfw/lfacme
12:54:38 <svragv> Is it possible to run proxmox under bhyve?
12:54:46 <svragv> it said something about not supporting nested virtualization
14:23:34 <CrtxReavr> svragv, possible?  Maybe.  The real quesiton would be why?
14:24:01 <svragv> CrtxReavr: So i can run proxmox on a server I have on freebsd.
14:24:16 <svragv> I don't want to hear the philosophy behind running proxmox under bhyve i just want to know if it's possible
14:24:29 <svragv> I mioght be able to sell proxmox vms to friends if it's possible
14:24:43 <CrtxReavr> So you want to virtualize inside of virtualization?
14:24:51 <svragv> yes
14:24:57 <CrtxReavr> Are you going to run some cointainers inside that mess too?
14:25:13 <svragv> Most likely.
18:13:34 <ivy> svragv: bhyve doesn't support nested virtualisation and i don't believe that's a planned feature
20:14:36 <CrtxReavr> ivy, wouldn't that only prevent bhyve in bhyve?
20:18:15 <dstolfa> CrtxReavr: no
20:18:28 <dstolfa> it would prevent anything trying to use virtualisation extensions inside bhyve
20:20:23 <CrtxReavr> Not all virtualization requires those extensions though.
20:21:16 <dstolfa> if you're talking about virtualisation as people do today, i.e. bhyve, kvm, the modern way to use xen, hyperv, etc then yes it does
20:21:36 <dstolfa> xen has a mode which can do virtualisation without CPU extensions, but i'm not sure how well supported that is today
20:21:57 <dstolfa> otherwise your only other option is emulation, which is different from virtualisation
20:22:09 <dstolfa> (and much, much slower)
20:22:14 <CrtxReavr> Well. . . I used way too much VMware, vbox, & Virtual Server, Et al. before CPUs had those extentions.
20:23:11 <dstolfa> i'm not sure that any of those work today without vt-x/amd-v
20:24:03 <dstolfa> but yeah, if you had purely software-based virtualisation approaches then you could technically do it
20:24:38 <dstolfa> xen pv, for example, could be used i believe