01:11:37 bbrtj: unluckly i never used bluetooth for audio on fbsd, but you tried using virtual_oss_ctl? 01:13:07 i never risked my self to have such an issue when bringin girls to home so i have a 7 meters 3.5mm audio jack extensor :P 01:27:56 REPENT FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND ... . 01:28:29 LET THE BRIDE SAY COME , THOSE WHO ARE WORTHY LET THEM BE WORTHY STILL ... . 03:05:32 so i seem to be having edmund fitzgerald crashes 03:05:46 what i mean by that is that while I have a dumpdevice set, it's not being effectively used 03:07:31 netdump is not finishing, resulting in the server printing a "client timed out" error; if I set an SSD as the dump device, when the system comes around attempting savecore is futile 03:07:47 (just tells me something about a bad magic number) 03:08:07 do i need to partiton the SSD before I can use it as a dumpdev 03:43:29 hi all 04:26:06 MelMalik: your system crashes and is not using the dumpdevice? 04:26:33 what are you partitions / dump settings in rc.conf 04:27:42 on the netdump side: it is using the dumpdevice, but it never even starts, let alone finishes, sending the dump once it actually starts the communication with the netdump server. 04:28:09 I can't say i'm familar with netdump 04:28:33 really i should get a serial USB adapter and put in the optional serial port on my desktop, and then muck about there 04:28:37 but 04:30:27 what's wrong with dumping to the local disk? 04:32:28 for the longest time, it just wasn't an option (no swap device) 04:33:12 now i have a swap volume, I tried using it, the time taken shows it seems to be used, but trying to read the crashdump back evidences it having gone into a blackhole 04:33:43 hence why i need the serial affair, to actually figure out wtf is being done 04:34:22 does your screen console not work? it should say something like: found dump, writing dump... and continue booting 04:34:48 it doesn't say that; when i run savecore manually it just says something about bad magic 04:35:16 that sounds like perhaps it was used as swap again? was it? 04:35:18 (i mean i also set up dumpon manually; the whole thing is a bit cursed) 04:36:05 i just use systems that don't crash 04:36:06 that is implausible; trying to set it up as swap in fstab actually doesn't work 04:36:22 well count yourself lucky you have that luxury, dear 04:36:29 not everyone does 04:36:45 and when your system DOES crash you need a way to figure out why 04:37:08 and I don't have that way, because neither can I dump to an SSD, nor over the network (I have had the latter working before, but not reliably) 04:37:41 i don't know why you wouldn't be able to dump to a ssd 04:38:23 bad magic sounds like perhaps your dump was overwritten by swap after the system booted 04:39:33 again: that is implausible, swap to the SSD has to be set up manually to work at all 04:39:40 it seems far more likely the dump is just never getting made 04:41:36 but given that the trigger for the crash is loading a graphics driver, it would make sense that i have no console by which to see how the kernel is responding to crashing, which is step 1 in figuring out why it can't store a dump anywhere 04:44:25 indeed, a serial console sounds like it would help in this case 07:29:56 try sockstat -46nlp 5984 08:23:22 how do i diagnose random reboots? 08:25:31 <[tj]> last(1) will tell you if freebsd is being rebooted 08:25:46 <[tj]> if it isn't freebsd reboots it is either a hardware issue or a panic 08:26:56 <[tj]> if you think it might be a panic you can configure the system to stop in the debugger or to perform a core dump. Then you could check for the core dump 08:27:05 <[tj]> if not it's a hardware issue 08:28:01 how would last indicate a reboot? `last reboot` shows the past so many boot times and then where utx.log begins, but nothing about reboot 08:29:21 ahh nevermind, just running 'last' shows crashes for various sessions, so it was a panic 08:35:50 <[tj]> ring0_starr: you will need to look up the sysctls to configure automatic dumps, but this should help once you have a core https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/development-workflow-and-ci/more-modern-kernel-debugging-tools/ 10:08:27 after making changes with "make makepatch" (and renaming some files to .orig), how can i rebuild ports without any modifications? it seems not to be enough if i return the original files (rename .orig back to original) and then "make clean" & "make reinstall" 10:57:29 or do i have to wipe the whole ports tree? 11:18:13 hubertm: iirc makepatch directly puts the patches into files/, so remove them from there again (files/ is part of the port, make clean only removes build artifacts) 12:09:02 those files folders i can find don't seem to contain anything related 12:33:25 there's no portname/files directory 13:05:56 okay, by grepping through the whole ports tree with the name of a modified file i found the relevant files folder 17:19:47 looking for feedback on a website proposal from anyone willing to give it (direct message is fine): https://freebsd.markmcb.com 17:30:41 nice 17:32:12 is it a proposal to replace the current website, markmcb? 17:32:33 veg: yes 17:33:50 I feel it's a strong improvement design wise 17:34:13 however, the contrast is a little low for readability IMHO 17:34:43 adding SVG logos & visual branding is great 17:35:25 veg: thanks. regarding contrast, do you mean the thin font on the white background? 17:35:49 but red on red is a little hard on the eyes to be honest, better have a brighter heading background and a black font, negative space 17:36:06 I get a dark brown/redish background 17:36:15 maybe because my system uses darkmode? 17:36:27 veg: ah, ok, in dark mode, yes, i can improve that. click on the light bulb at the top to see non-dark mode 17:36:57 OMG, my eyes just died, lol 17:37:04 haha 17:37:15 that's quite enough contrast for the light mode, thanks, lol 17:37:56 veg: i agree, i need to work on the color palette for dark mode. it's a first pass, best guess. will address it. 17:38:14 great work anyhow, thanks for taking that on! 17:38:40 really love seeing jails & bastille pushed at the forefront (especially given the active development on bastille the last few months) 17:39:49 the light mode is truly more elegant & informative than the current website is! 17:41:24 thank you, it's great to hear this 17:41:46 the header from https://docs.freebsd.org/ is pretty good and would provide a nice addition to your work IMHO (maintaining consistency would be cool as well) 17:43:59 veg: 100%. you can ignore the header/footer in my mockup. i would integrate this into whatever the desired template is (and i agree the docs template is nice and clean) 17:46:33 hi, in a VNET jail I need to add a 2nd IP (an alias) and a static route to re0, how can I do that?. I used route add -net 192.168.20.254 192.168.20.2 17:46:47 But that added that route to lo0 instead of re0 17:47:57 BTW, netstat -nr shows all routes pointing to lo0 Netif, is that correct? 18:41:03 markmcb, it's ``netstat -rn`` you savage! Everyone knows that. 18:44:25 o_O 18:44:51 Sorry, markmcb - nick complete fail. 18:46:00 CrtxReavr: no worries, i've been called worse, lol 18:46:21 Linux fanboi! 19:16:19 haha, you know how to hit where it hurts 20:48:32 markmcb: did you solve the setup problem? 20:49:21 badkat, current revision: https://freebsd.markmcb.com 20:49:41 lol i wanted to quote the vnet guy xD 20:49:51 he left the channel it seems 20:49:53 ok lets see :O 20:50:46 yes! the beastie is godlike 20:51:01 haha that bastille sponsorship is crazy tho 20:51:08 along the netflix lines that is fun :) 20:51:13 thanks!!!!! :) 20:51:24 lmao :-) 21:18:18 markmcb: on the landingpage "become a commiter" might be a bit too specific? Become a contributor and linking to the developers handbook might be more useful 21:21:40 getz: thanks. will tweak 21:33:01 markmcb: beautiful layout, liking it a lot.. i did notice when you hover over titlebar links.. it "looks" like color changes.. not sure if that was expected. The links at the bottom, my mouse changes to a | and not a "finger" pointer to denote link. 21:33:14 i am also viewing this on a mac.. so not sure if it is my old computer 21:33:44 sorry.. the news section on the lower level.. maybe it is just a placeholder and i am "over-reacting" 21:35:16 yes, the hover color change is intentional, but i'm not tied to it if folks feel it's distracting. the links at the bottom do that because they're empty placeholder links. they wouldn't do that in a production setting. i just copied the text over to mock up the section. 21:35:27 i'm impressed you noticed! 21:36:23 i'll make those links functional to remove the confusion 21:37:47 its all good 21:38:01 i figure you would expect the top half to be looked at.. so i flip it on its head.. start from the bottom up 21:38:27 it is like those images.. did you notice the stormtrooper but you get distracted with a woman or man 21:38:47 maybe wrong analogy.. it is like getting cut off on the road.. people expect you to flip them off.. so you just clap and laugh.. it throws them off ;) 21:39:09 haha, links are updated now 21:40:12 i like the netflix touch also, would they be "opposed" to displaying their logo? maybe a sanity check 21:41:57 i'm sure someone with a legal background could weigh in on specifics, but in general i think it's fine as long as we don't put words in their mouth, i.e., imply that they say FreeBSD is "the best" ... easy enough to swap it out if there are concerns 21:41:58 ohh Mkdocs looks real interesting 21:42:23 i make my notes in obsidian and have been hacking ways to migrate canvas jsoncanvas.org but was struggling with "output" 21:42:37 i may have to play.. but it is wife date night.. if i see anything else, i will let you know 21:42:40 nice work 21:42:46 thanks :) 21:45:20 hi all