00:00:26 <trench> or tshark?
00:00:34 <trench> more up your alley?
00:00:43 <ramses> ni idea installed yesterday
00:00:47 <ramses> no*
00:01:04 <ramses> i recon pkg install like :D
00:02:49 <trench> 4.4 in the docs
00:03:27 <trench> https://www.youtube.com/robnuggie = very good freebsd guides
00:03:47 <trench> https://vermaden.wordpress.com/ also alot of docs.. :>
00:05:36 <trench> i just use tailscale.com instead.. but that's me.. hehe
00:10:30 <ramses> stop joking and help
00:11:12 <ramses> upload goes max
00:11:23 <ramses> so irretating
00:14:12 <trench> help with what?
00:14:22 <trench> i'm just telling you what i use
00:14:50 <trench> I use tshark and tcpdump du debug thing.. you don't?
00:14:55 <trench> to
00:15:16 <ramses> well shits bad, im trying other
00:15:41 <ramses> me at root you know :D
00:15:50 <trench> freebsd is not linux.. you know..
00:15:56 <ramses> nope
00:15:57 <trench> i run current..
00:16:09 <ramses> yeah
00:16:28 <trench> i even run openbsd on my desktop now.. hehe
00:16:36 <ramses> yep
00:16:50 <ramses> old news :)
00:17:55 <trench> grr.. this orangepizero 3 keeps dying..
00:19:03 <hernan604> so i got this ryzen 7... first time with this new AMD... cant seem to be able to open tradingview correctly... it hangs every other second while dragging the canvas. WIFI device MT7922, not supported even by wifibox.
00:19:21 <hernan604> (firefox)
00:19:36 <trench> only firefox that does this?
00:19:59 <hernan604> and in ungoogled-chromium, some hangs also... when i open the browser, and some other hangs... but i only tested slither on it
00:20:18 <hernan604> the video card is good enough to run it.. but hangs every now and then =p
00:20:21 <trench> what about a private tab?
00:20:33 <hernan604> in what browser ?
00:20:40 <trench> hernan604: what release are you on?
00:20:44 <hernan604> 14.2
00:20:49 <hernan604> fresh install
00:20:49 <trench> dbus?
00:20:56 <hernan604> didnt enable
00:21:02 <hernan604> is that still a thing ?
00:21:05 <hernan604> i will enable it
00:21:32 <hernan604> trench: actually its enabled
00:21:42 <trench> what desktop are you runing?
00:21:47 <hernan604> i3
00:22:10 <hernan604> all other intels ran fine
00:22:19 <hernan604> zero problems
00:23:01 <trench> 14.2 has the drivers for your card now right?
00:23:10 <ramses> if problem resist try fedora :)
00:23:31 * trench slaps ramses with beastie
00:23:37 <ramses> hehe
00:23:58 <hernan604> plus the pulseaudio problem... when i open the browser as another user after a reboot, the sound from youtube works. but later after some ??? minutes ??? hours ?? it stops working. i had to enable sndiod and now its fine..
00:24:06 <trench> fedora is a hat nothing else to me :>
00:24:25 <hernan604> but i dont want linux... been using freebsd on desktop for 10+years without problems
00:24:32 <hernan604> this fucking AMD
00:24:34 <hernan604> crap =p
00:24:43 <trench> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/multimedia/
00:25:00 <trench> hernan604: my amd threadripper works fine :>
00:25:18 <hernan604> trench: but thats the server cpu one right ?
00:25:22 <hernan604> without gpu
00:25:23 <ramses> hernan604: good i wont install it on main then
00:27:41 <hernan604> tradingview seems to work better on ungoogled-chromium
00:27:53 <hernan604> but damn, im not going to use chromium shit
00:29:25 <trench> i mostly use dillo .. but that just me.. hehe
00:29:43 <hernan604> conclusion: Dont buy AMD ryzen 7 guys
00:30:41 <ramses> hernan604: you got the 7g one?
00:30:51 <hernan604> 7g ?
00:31:01 <ramses> with grapichs in
00:31:05 <hernan604> yes
00:31:10 <hernan604> laptop
00:31:17 <ramses> new model?
00:31:25 <hernan604> i dont think its that new
00:31:29 <ramses> ok
00:31:51 <hernan604> ryzen-7-pro-7840u
00:33:49 <hernan604> its actually AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS with Radeon Graphis
00:33:59 <hernan604> and that thing just froze
00:34:12 <hernan604> when i checked cpu info
00:34:17 <hernan604> its frozen
00:34:21 <ramses> hm
00:34:29 <hernan604> had to switch to another
00:34:40 <hernan604> could it be bad RAM ?
00:34:48 <ramses> check the iso downloaded?
00:35:19 <ramses> or just give it another run
00:35:28 <thedaemon> Is it supported in drm-616-kmod ?
00:35:58 <ramses> or that ^
00:36:15 <thedaemon> My 6750XT wasn't working well (at all) in 515
00:36:26 <thedaemon> but 616 compiled from ports works
00:36:29 <hernan604> will check
00:36:38 <hernan604> ok
00:36:48 <hernan604> i hope its that
00:37:31 <hernan604> oh, im using dwm actually
00:37:34 <hernan604> not i3
00:37:58 <hernan604> not that it should make a difference
00:38:45 <hernan604> i had the option... intel or amd... i thought... lets try amd this time...
00:38:53 <hernan604> now only problems =p
00:43:07 <thedaemon> too New is never a good idea. I suffered the same XD
00:43:08 <trench> hernan604: microcode?
00:43:23 <hernan604> microcode ?
00:43:26 <hernan604> whats that
00:43:52 <trench> pkg pkg search microcode
00:43:55 <trench> doh..
00:43:58 <trench> pkg search microcode
00:45:12 <hernan604> interesting
00:45:16 <hernan604> will use that too
00:45:51 <thedaemon> pkg drm-616-kmod did not work for me, I had to build from ports..
00:45:53 <thedaemon> just saying
00:46:28 <hernan604> thedaemon: yes, i just pulled portss from git.. i dont see 616
00:46:34 <trench> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/amd-ryzen-7000-series-support.88435/
00:46:38 <hernan604> but i will find it and install
00:51:12 <hernan604> wtf... i ran another command | grep and the thing just froze again
00:51:57 <hernan604> its not exactly frozen, but the keyboard seems to be non functional .
00:52:02 <hernan604> the mouse works, i can click stuff...
00:52:11 <hernan604> but any key i press, nothing happens
00:52:16 <hernan604> freaking weird
01:17:01 <hernan604> added microcode, drm-61
01:17:34 <hernan604> havent tested anything yet.. but when i open a terminal and type: sysctl -a | grep temperature
01:17:41 <hernan604> i lose my keyboard
01:17:51 <hernan604> its like it gets disconnected
01:18:04 <hernan604> makes no sens
01:18:29 <hernan604> mouse works, im able to select text, click on another desktop and swith to the other desktop
01:18:39 <hernan604> but keyboard is gone
01:18:59 <hernan604> ctrl+c dont work, capslock dont work, nothing works
01:22:10 <hernan604> thedaemon: looks like firefoxx and tradingview are working a lot better with drm-61-kmod
01:22:31 <hernan604> feels like im on itel again
01:27:58 <hernan604> wow
01:28:04 <hernan604> now it froze and rebooted
08:38:15 <meator> Hey. I wish to retrieve info about a specific PID from C. Can you point me to the relevant manpage/system? I have concluded from my research that the use of procfs on BSDs (or only FreeBSD?) is discouraged.
08:41:36 <paulf> some packages (like jdk?) require procfs but you can't count on it being there
08:42:08 <paulf> generally you need to use sysctls, but it all depends on what info you need
08:43:31 <meator> Process' command name or command line (/cmdline and /comm in procfs) should be enough for me for now.
08:46:18 <paulf> if you look at the source code for ps you should be able to find that
08:47:56 <MelMalik> man 3 kvm_getprocs ?
08:48:34 <nimaje> man procfs states "Users are advised to use libprocstat(3) and kvm(3) instead."
08:49:36 <meator> Portability across BSDs/darwin is also a concern for me.
08:51:03 <MelMalik> Then check the developer manuals of those respective operating systems. This is not something portable as far as I can tell.
08:51:21 <meator> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs#4.4BSD_and_derivatives implies that I should use sysctl.
08:57:14 <meator> `sysctl kern.proc` appears to be relevant.
08:58:57 <meator> `kern.proc.all` is an "opaque variable".
09:04:14 <paulf> macOS and FreeBSD may have similar sysctls since they have some shared heritage, but macOS has a lot of extra stuff
13:21:20 <violette> Hello! I sent this a few days ago on #freebsd-embedded, but i didn't get a response.
13:21:21 <violette> I'm trying to boot freebsd on a mac air m2, but there seems to be an issue attaching the generic timer. I get `could not allocate irq for required interupt 'phys'` ; and `generic_timer0` attach returned 6`.
13:21:24 <violette> I am able to boot openbsd, and from what i have seen, it doesn't seem to be caused by the different arm architecture (armv8.4 for m1, armv8.6 for m2). I have this issue on 14.2 and 15.0, altough 15.0 seems to have other gpio-related issues.
13:21:25 <violette> I'd like to help, but i really dont know where to begin with, and cannot find interupt doc that corresponds to the generic_timer.c' irqs. Has anyone got any pointers?
14:04:01 <oxbar> What’s the best way to search FreeBSD ports or docs .. I want to use git log with and pipe to less so I can search stuff.. looking for the latest commit for packages I’m looking for. Also I want to compare branches .. main and quarterly? Any ideas ?
14:06:50 <ivy> oxbar: if you have a ports.git checkout you can do 'make index' followed by 'make search <field>=<value>', see ports(7) for syntax
14:07:47 <ivy> if you want to find the latest commit for a file you can just look at the git log for that file, perhaps i don't understand what you're trying to do there
14:27:58 <oxbar> ivy: thanks.. I want to see the last fit log of sysutils/cbsd do I do git log -p sysutils/cbsd ?
14:28:06 <oxbar> Something like that
14:28:40 <oxbar> Cgit.FreeBSD is easier but just wanted to know if I could do it from the cli
14:31:57 <ivy> oxbar: you don't need -p, but yes that should work
15:06:18 <oxbar> ivy: question it keeps showing me the log of /usr/ports directory or the git main branch even when i do git log --oneline sysutils/cbsd does that mean nothing has changed ?
15:08:54 <ivy> oxbar: this seem to work as expected for me: https://www.le-fay.org/tmp/7d/gitlog.txt - can you show the command you're using and the output?
15:10:38 <oxbar> https://dpaste.org/x1Ct0
15:10:48 <oxbar> i know its been updated a few times but i can't see it
15:14:46 <ivy> b0dbd49d8 is newer than the most recent commit to sysutils/cbsd, but i don't know why it's showing that in your git log output... is there anything unusual about how you cloned ports?
15:16:34 <oxbar> --depth 3 ?
15:17:19 <oxbar> show i delete /usr/ports and do a --depth 1 ?
15:17:36 <ivy> oh, don't use --depth if you want to see the history, the whole point of --depth is it removes the history from your local repository
15:18:05 <oxbar> aqw
15:18:08 <oxbar> aw*
15:18:12 <oxbar> i will start over.. Thanks
15:18:31 <oxbar> im like sratching my head
15:27:44 <oxbar> ivy:  last question.. if i want to compare main and quarterly is that possible ? its probably a dumb question but i just like to know what chagnes are didfrent from latest and quarterly whats been held back or whatever else
15:28:16 <rtprio> yah it's possible
15:28:40 <rtprio> git checkout main; git diff [your quarterly tag]
15:29:17 <oxbar> nice
15:29:21 <oxbar> i need to learn this stuff
15:38:08 <lts> oxbar: https://learngitbranching.js.org/ is a great place to start
15:38:37 <oxbar> bookmarked!
20:36:31 <haroldp> if `service -e` lists base named (/etc/rc.d/named) after ports named (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/named) which one will it run?
20:40:55 <ivy> haroldp: what version of FreeBSD are you running?  as far as i know, there has not been any base named for a long time
20:41:58 <haroldp> 13.5.  hmm, might be leftover from an update
20:42:16 <ivy> do you make `make delete-old` after updating?
20:47:14 <haroldp> must have missed in in this jail
21:23:21 <mzar> named was removed from the base along with the startup script (/etc/rc.d/named) at times of 10-CURRENT, over 10 years ago
21:26:51 <nimaje> pretty sure if some rc script is in base and in ports the base version gets renamed along with the rcvar to avoid conflicts like it happend with unbound (local_unbound)