05:21:06 <Posterdati> hi
07:18:30 <radhitya> hello o/
07:19:47 <radhitya> i have a question: would you drop your packet filter conf? i need an inspiration for my shell server
07:20:30 <radhitya> this mine: https://termbin.com/kkhl.. any improvement?
07:35:32 <LXGHTNXNG> if you want people to be able to access gemini services as users, you may want to add port 1965 to your services list: https://geminiprotocol.net/docs/protocol-specification.gmi
08:04:13 <radhitya> thanks LXGHTNXNG
08:22:35 <[tj]> does anyone know what control in kde will disable system sounds?
08:23:27 <[tj]> turning off notification sounds in system sounds didn't do it
10:12:14 <Posterdati> hi
10:12:33 <Posterdati> is anyone using xfce4 on 14.2 p2?
10:14:36 <nimaje> probably
10:19:56 <svragv> WQhat happened to the kde5 and kde6 ports?
10:26:53 <nimaje> unified into the kde port
10:39:53 <mage> any idea for https://gist.github.com/silenius/6cf5515bae8c4d20c06cc07dcd11c4e0 ?
10:40:18 <mage> I'm tryng to create a zfs dataset in a jail
10:43:25 <nimaje> but that one already exists? not sure why it's a permission error there
10:44:25 <nimaje> maybe because you have no create permissions for zroot_srv/data/jails
10:45:16 <mage> nimaje: sorry.. wrong paste
10:46:05 <mage> I've updated the gist
10:46:15 <mage> the dataset doens't exists
10:46:24 <mage> *doesn't exist
10:47:35 <mage> and I have the create permission on the parent dataset (zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync)
10:48:50 <nimaje> (hm, should you really see non-jailed datasets inside a jail?)
10:51:47 <mage> nimaje: you see the parent datasets of the jailed one
10:57:09 <mage> interresting:
10:57:10 <mage> $ zfs create  zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv
10:57:10 <mage> cannot mount 'zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv': Insufficient privileges
10:57:10 <mage> filesystem successfully created, but not mounted
10:57:57 <mage> this is with https://gist.github.com/silenius/b59805541270ead924dbec2e18297b56
10:59:20 <nimaje> mage: maybe https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-create-a-zfs-dataset-within-a-jail.62198/#post-359079 ?
11:01:18 <mage> yes I have all of this
11:31:49 <f451> is it stated anywhere how many sectors a drive can reallocate? something like percent overprovision?
11:53:21 <psycorama> maybe in the datasheet for the drive. but that would indicate you'll be able sue if it doesn't …
12:12:26 <voy4g3r2> so this PM just keeps emoting email responses.. and using AI chat summary because they are not capable of doing minutes for groups larger than 3.
12:12:52 <voy4g3r2> sorry for the noise.. mistake on my part
12:54:15 <f451> psycorama: or a way of telling by using dd or gpart or fdisk or similar
12:55:26 <f451> psycorama: or maybe something like "usually expected to have 16384" something like that
12:55:52 <psycorama> you can inquire into the S.M.A.R.T. values from the disk (smartcl). but these usually do not show how many reallocation blocks are left
12:57:49 <f451> thats correct
12:58:30 <f451> it did have 7 uncorrectable but dd managed to re-map those
12:58:46 <psycorama> spinning rust or solid state?
12:59:08 <f451> (well, not dd but a forced read/write made the firmware re-map them)
12:59:16 <f451> spinning rust
12:59:56 <f451> its all in a zfs array and it/s the 8th disk of raidz2
13:00:10 <psycorama> you can try to see if this value increases over time. once had a disk with 11 reallocated sectors, which ran fine afterwards for a few more years.
13:00:20 <f451> yeah
13:01:03 <f451> these disks used to live in a proliant in a server rack in a DC
13:01:14 <psycorama> it really depends on how much losing this one disk would hurt.
13:01:51 <f451> theyre enterprise grade so id expect some hevty overprovision. was interested in finding how much there is
13:02:02 <psycorama> that would be nice, yeah :)
13:02:18 <psycorama> maybe try the F.A.R.M. values from smart
13:02:48 <psycorama> but i'm grasping at straws here :)
13:02:52 <f451> FARM? cant say ive heard of those
13:02:59 <f451> no worries :)
13:03:45 <psycorama> learned about them recently myself in the news. lately a lot of used disks were sold as new (enough) with manipulated smart values
13:05:41 <f451> yeah ive seen that once, a few years ago, supposedly reconditioned
13:06:08 <psycorama> `smartctl -l farm <disk>` has experimental support for seagate drives
13:07:00 <f451> yep - ooh these are seagate :)
13:10:09 <f451> FARM log (GP Log 0xa6) not supported
13:10:28 <f451> oh well. still, something new learned so thanks for that
13:10:40 <psycorama> sure :)
13:10:48 <mage> what is the difference between security.jail.mount_zfs_allowed and security.jail.param.allow.mount.zfs ?
13:12:16 <f451> mage: security.jail.mount_zfs_allowed is depreciated
13:14:50 <mage> ok
13:16:03 <mage> so https://gist.github.com/silenius/662b9bf4a623a5f8d39c59d9cf5e5b3c should be enough to be able to mount a zfs dataset in a jail ?
13:16:03 <f451> you can get a on-liner descriptor of any sysctl variable with 'sysctl -d variable'
13:16:30 <mage> for some reason I can't mount a zfs dataset altough delegations are OK
13:17:51 <f451> thats a good question. meaning, i don't know the answer
13:18:07 <f451> if the sysctl is set then yeah it should work
13:18:10 <tsoome> is the mountpoint present? if not, do you have permission to create it?
13:18:28 <mage> https://gist.github.com/silenius/49f58631d9e2e27e628861915b5b701a
13:18:39 <mage> tsoome: yes, and owned by user
13:19:16 <mage> (the gist is from within the jail)
13:19:33 <f451> poudriere creates zfs datasets and jails processes but poudriere usually runs as root
13:19:41 <tsoome> does jail allow to mount?
13:19:49 <tsoome> because you clearly do get: cannot mount 'zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv': Insufficient privileges
13:21:01 <mage> tsoome: https://gist.github.com/silenius/1b372074887a55187e5c7242c1969ccc
13:21:05 <mage> this is my jail.conf
13:21:59 <mage> it should be ok with allow.mount and allow.mount.zfs and enforce_statfs=1
13:22:34 <tsoome> zfs set jailed=on <volume name>
13:22:46 <tsoome> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mount-zfs-dataset-in-jail.90129/
13:22:53 <mage> it's done on the HOST
13:23:36 <mage> /jails/zsync/ zfs list -o name,jailed,mounted,mountpoint zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync
13:23:39 <mage> NAME                        JAILED  MOUNTED  MOUNTPOINT
13:23:42 <mage> zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync  on      no       /backups
13:24:26 <tsoome> ya, but you are mounting zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv
13:24:41 <mage> yes, but from within the jail
13:25:12 <mage> it's inherited after all:
13:25:12 <mage> /jails/zsync/ zfs list -o name,jailed,mounted,mountpoint zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv
13:25:16 <mage> NAME                            JAILED  MOUNTED  MOUNTPOINT
13:25:18 <mage> zroot_srv/data/jails/zsync/srv  on      no       /backups/srv
13:25:36 <mage> also it works as root
13:26:28 <tsoome> so it has to be something about user privileges still.
13:26:38 <tsoome> but what, I have no idea:D
13:27:04 <mage> (:
13:27:54 <f451> subscribe to freebsd-fs@ and post about it there
13:28:45 <mage> yeah ..
13:31:10 <f451> did you have both security.jail.param.allow.mount.zfs and security.jail.mount_zfs_allowed set to 1 outside the jail? also, what exact freebsd version
13:33:09 <f451> mage: have a look here https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mount-zfs-dataset-in-jail.90129/reply?quote=680657
13:33:34 <mage> f451: no, I thought allow.mount and allow.mount.zfs in jail.conf are enough?
13:35:32 <mage> I set security.jail.mount_zfs_allowed to 1 on the HOST but I still cannot mount
13:35:36 <mage> this is 14.2-RELEASE
13:35:51 <f451> dunno. covering all bases. look at that link i posted where (sort of?) your issue is solved
13:36:20 <mage> I've done everything from the post
13:36:33 <mage> maybe it's a regression in 14.2
13:36:52 <f451> huh. i dunno then. here i'd post to the mailing list
13:37:12 <f451> 14.2.0 and not 14.2-p2 ?
13:38:13 <mage> -p2 yes
13:38:37 <mage> I'll try @fs
13:38:44 <f451> yeah. post to fs-freebsd@
13:38:56 <f451> sorry freebsd-fs@
14:02:25 <Posterdati> hi
14:02:55 <Posterdati> please help, there's no file manager (thunar) in the xfce4 for 14.2 p2... Is it possible to fix that?
14:02:57 <Posterdati> thnaks
14:08:23 <nimaje> in the last build of the pkg repos many packages failed to build and much more were skipped because their dependencies failed to build (see https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2025-April/007557.html ), probably thunar belongs to the skipped ones, so only waiting for new repos to be build or build your own pkg repos with poudriere
14:09:05 <SKull> Posterdati: 'pkg install pcmanfm'
14:15:18 <Posterdati> SKull: ok
14:18:58 <Posterdati> SKull: still no thunar
14:20:55 <Posterdati> SKull: ok done, thanks!
14:21:02 <armin> SKull: You could at least *mention* this is a workaround that installs a completely different application, not a fix.
14:21:02 <hernan604> Posterdati: install it ?
14:21:17 <Posterdati> hernan604: there's no more thunar in 14.2 p2
14:22:00 <hernan604> oh nice =p
14:22:17 <hernan604> use mc
14:22:27 <hernan604> at least, thats what i use =p
14:32:38 <thedaemon> pcmanfm is great anyways :P
14:37:00 <wsky> i've transfered ocver 50GB via my freebsd vps today :s
15:01:55 <SKull> armin: ok. addendum: pcmanfm is a workaround. it has few dependencies, isn't tied to any DE and 'Just Works'.
15:02:24 <SKull> wsky: do you have a limit in place?
15:26:46 <wsky> Skull yeah
15:35:25 <armin> SKull: fair. :)
15:48:52 <SKull> wsky. i think i have 2TB. As long as I don't sync all my Nextcloud Data to more than one device a month, I'm good :]
15:49:41 <SKull> oh. wrong. i've got 32TB. so i'm good in any case.
16:12:28 <ivy> the output of "kyua debug" (and also "kyua report") for atf-sh is deficient and useless, it does not show the commands it ran or their output
16:12:44 <ivy> cc: kevans
16:59:42 <skered> Nice. 277959 is in 13/14!
19:36:24 <Posterdati> hi
19:37:21 <Posterdati> SKull: please help, I have a problem with xfce4 desktop: no icons, xfdesktop is not running. How can I fix that? Thanks!
20:07:13 <nimaje> Posterdati: why do you tag a specific person with that question?
20:28:04 <Posterdati> please help, I have a problem with xfce4 desktop: no icons, xfdesktop is not running. How can I fix that? Thanks!
20:28:49 <Posterdati> I did not modify the previous message and reused part of it :)
20:42:11 <dh> Do you have xfce4-desktop installed?
22:59:36 <CorvetteZR1> hello
23:00:47 <CorvetteZR1> i used to be able to play reVC (GTA Vice City remake) with linux emulation before, Freebsd 13.2 and 14.0
23:01:14 <CorvetteZR1> i'm on 14.2 now, haven't tried it in a while.  but when i go to play it now, i get the main menu but when trying to start the game, it crashes with a segfault
23:01:22 <CorvetteZR1> i see this in dmesg: linux: jid 0 pid 1636 (reVC): syscall inotify_init1 not implemented
23:01:22 <CorvetteZR1> pid 1636 (reVC), jid 0, uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
23:01:51 <CorvetteZR1> is there way to fix it?  how come inotify_init1 not implemented all of a sudden; i hadn't gotten this error before
23:02:43 <CorvetteZR1> i'll probably get this in other games as well, i haven't tried yet, but since Everspace also uses libstdc++ in linux emulation, it'll most likely also fail with this...
23:02:54 <CorvetteZR1> pls help, i want my games to work :)