02:16:27 I know 802.11ac is comming but I'm just curious to know why openbsd has had support for a few years now with the iwx driver and not freebsd 04:15:09 maybe the developer who has the motivation doesn't have the card 05:08:56 ahh 05:12:33 trying to pass thought a PCIe card to a bhyve, anyone have any experience with this? 08:45:54 <[tj]> crb: whats up? 08:46:29 <[tj]> I've never passed through graphics, but I have network cards and xhci controllers. The wiki covers the process very well 09:47:49 I don't really get how resolvconf is supposed to work. I wrote a resovconf.conf with "name_servers=2606:4700:4700::1001" and "name_servers_append="1.0.0.1". When I manually call `resolvconf -u`, those properly get added to the resolv.conf. But after a reboot, the file is back to only containing my hoster's nameservers. 09:52:00 how about using resolvconf=NO and manually managing resolv.conf? It reads to me like that is what you want to do in your case 10:12:32 nimaje: I suppose that would be an option, yes, thanks! Still, it's weird that resolvconf.conf seems to be ignored unless explicitly calling resolvconf -u. 11:13:15 yeah, no idea, probably a bug 15:24:43 is there anything particularly wrong about a cli util or command taking options that are numbers? like foo -1 ... 15:26:22 demido: no, this is extremely common with -4 and -6, not to mention ls -1 which has been around forever, xargs -0, etc 15:26:33 ok tyvm 15:26:43 try to avoid variables as number arguments though, like nice -10 15:27:03 huh? sorry don't get the distinction 15:28:00 "ls -1" is a specific flag called "1". "nice -10" accepts any number as a flag: nice -1, nice -42, nice -100, ... that's not flag, it should be an argument, like nice -n 10 (which is how it works nowadays) 15:28:21 ahhh ya. got it tyvm 17:16:36 The www/chromium build pulls in all LLVM versions as build- or runtime dependencies between 13 and 20. /usr/local is at 33 GB in no time. (not a complaint, just impressed) 17:21:02 Howdy folks, is anyone here using pf's os detection ability? I see that the pf.os file hasn't been updated in over a decade in both freebsd and openbsd's source 18:00:01 The www/chromium build directory is at 30 GB. The overall size of this VM, which already built firefox, doubled with the chromium build. (not a complaint, just impressed) 18:15:31 Is this a known issue I have to work around ? When I set net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=1 on the host, then I can't add or remove members from pf tables in a jail. When I try, the pfctl -tadd -Ttable someip would just hang, and pf.conf hangs when I try to add members inline (table { ... }). If I toggle net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge back to 0, all is good again, and then i can toggle it back 18:15:33 once more after modifying a table. A bit cumbersome though. 20:36:57 cracauer: erm, *all* llvm versions? why? 20:37:23 i've been happily building chromium with just 1 version, albeit not from ports. that really shouldn't be necessary 20:38:31 /14/13 20:38:35 err 20:57:17 dstolfa: I am just reporting which packages were pulled in for chromium or dependencies thereof. Chromium itself uses llvm19. 21:02:42 ah, ok. that makes more sense 21:02:45 thanks for confirming 21:04:29 I don't think it makes too much sense :-) I wonder whether there's a good tool to print a dependency tree from ports. 21:04:50 cracauer: well, the chromium part makes sense. i haven't built my own ports repository in a few years so i don't know if the ports part makes sense :D 21:05:12 my understanding was that chromium itself was pulling multiple versions of llvm, which to the best of my knowledge is unnecessary 21:06:03 To clarify further, this is from `make install-missing-packages`, which pulls in dependencies from packages. 21:51:27 radhitya: I dont recommend self hosting if you want stability and uptime, things break, internet goes down, ISPs block server traffic... headache. 22:47:10 IMO there's pros and cons to both and the sweet spot is usually somewhere in the middle. :) I appreciate some of the services I selfhost within my LAN and wouldn't want to rely on the cloud for everything, but for me, serving them to the wider internet is not an option because electricity usually goes down, etc in my area. 23:02:49 what do you self host? 23:07:22 A few services with one service per host: gitea, hydroxide (mail), vaultwarden, ollama (AI dev), and with plans to add some databases 23:36:35 polarian: thanks for the advice, but why not? so far, i dont have a problem :)