00:49:42 I've been using pkg+https://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest_${VERSION_MINOR} to get the working intel kmod on 14.2-RELEASE. I've just realised that the Sydney pkg mirror at http://pkg0.syd.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest has same/similar directory for the kmods. Does this mean I can just use the Sydney pkg mirror and drop the default pkg mirror? 01:02:43 is there any chance pci-card realtek chip 8139d be compatible with freebsd? hardware.info shows 8139 and 8139l ... could not find 8139d yet... 03:17:24 Hi, I have neglected my FreeBSD 14.0 install. I would like to update to 14.2. Is this any different if I am still on 14.0 than the instructions for updating from 14.1? 03:34:37 AumShivaya: shouldn't be, just make sure you follow them carefully and create a BE beforehand if you're running ZFS 03:34:48 don't skip documented reboots 03:36:05 nope I am using UFS 03:36:41 It says when I ran freebsd-update fetch it is updating to 14-RELEASE-p11 03:36:59 So it is not directly updating to 14.1 or 14.2 yet? 03:47:57 no, you have to specify -r 14.2-RELEASE or something to that effect to get more than a patch update 04:03:51 Thanks kevans 04:04:30 What should I do, I already ran that command, do I just rerun it with those flags or something else, first? 08:04:24 is there any paste bin website you guys use in freebsd community? 08:05:36 i use termbin 08:06:03 i use privatebin/gist 08:29:24 per1cycle: there is https://bsd.to mentioned in topic 08:29:51 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UP9SzMFI/nvme.%F0%9F%92%A9 08:30:29 debdrup: I swapped out the potentially failing nvme devices, and I'm still seeing these issues under load 08:31:14 debdrup: in the same slot again. so it could be the controller itself 08:32:04 or it could be a ventilation/cooling problem 08:32:17 do you have 2 nvme in your board? 08:33:19 at this rate I'm ready to return the mobo and get something else, I have mirrored zfs because my data is important, and it should be able to do a scrub without disconnecting from the bus 08:33:25 no matter what the reason is 08:35:32 it could also be the nvme, there are a lot of reports of issues 08:35:48 anyway today I will attempt updating the firmware on the mobo, maybe that helps 08:37:56 its annoying to power cycle the whole box just to get the drive back 08:50:48 very latest firmware has fixes for my specific nvme, interesting ... 09:37:38 is anyone working on MPLS for FreeBSD? 09:41:00 i have run into a routing problem where i think MPLS is the best solution, and it makes me sad freebsd doesn't support this when openbsd does :-/ 09:53:35 ok thx dch 10:08:38 yes, it doesn't 10:47:31 ivy: you can ask on freebsd-net⊙fo just in case, always good to have documented requests for stuff we don't support 12:29:02 I've been experimenting with settings in /etc/rc.conf.d/ instead of everything in /etc/rc.conf - it makes scripted configuration management easier. Easier that is, if I can determine the correct file into which the setting must go. netif contains stuff like 'ifconfig_igc3' or 'ifconfig_vlan219_ipv6' - however, putting ifconfig_igc0="DHCP" doesn't bring up dhclient on that NIC. 12:36:26 We have a Chelsio 6225 with two ports, but only one of the ports work. The second one seems to cause messages like "sysctl_warn_reuse: can't re-use a leaf (dev.cc.1.rxq.0.fl.ba)!" - as if it tries to set up queues for both ports using the same device number. 12:37:43 Interestingly it works on a (very) old 15-CURRENT in our BSDrp routers, but not on 14.2 12:58:09 Oh look, now that I have the correct IPv6 assigned to the vlan interfaces on the gateway, many monitoring checks have gone from red to green. Shock. Horror. I need breakfast. 13:18:51 dvl: yeah, /etc/rc.conf.d has annoyed me since I realized we implemented it as only being read in for the daemon the conf is named after 13:19:06 it's quite different from my mental model of conf.d =\ 13:25:07 But what happens during boot, or if you do service -R, though? Will it read a file, run script, and then unset everything - or will it all accumulate if more than one service is being operated on? 13:25:22 In the former case it provides a minimum of isolation, which is good 13:25:28 In the latter case it's just an osbcure foot cannon 13:58:47 man, i miss periodic 13:59:13 (none of my linux comptuers have its equivalent) 14:13:18 nvme firmware update should be performed with clean device or it can be done with installed system on it? 15:42:34 LXGHTNXNG: I have using periodic to implement everythreeminutes < == FreshPorts uses that. 15:49:37 kevans: The problem for me is identifying which daemon uses the particular conf. 17:08:12 Hi, curious of people's thoughts about package update cadence. FreeBSD userland has quarterly and latest branches. Linux distros like Debian seem to be the only projects that champion absolute stability across the board. Is that silly? I am considering the merits of what it aims to do. 17:09:15 but it's also updated continiously 17:09:34 well, in terms of their stable release, not testing/unstable 17:13:47 I guess where I see Debian and FreeBSD similar is that BSD's core is basically LTS except obviously userland, whereas since Debian Linux has no separation of base and userland they just freeze everything, lol. 19:59:07 ivy: committed the fix for your ipv6 nexthop problem, but don't go get the wrong idea that I can be helpful sometimes. it's a fluke 20:08:24 ha... sad story 20:08:47 anyway, I believed that you can be helpful sometimes kevans ;-) 20:18:43 hi 20:19:09 please any helps to make nvidia 390 secondary driver with the latest 14.2 upgrade? Thanks! 20:27:11 my hardware: https://bsd-hardware.info/?probe=4672d15867 20:28:51 Posterdati: there is a PR about it, please take a look at https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=285139 20:29:36 mzar: thanks 20:30:33 mzar: mmmh, the problem is with 390 not 570 20:32:09 oh.. sorry to hear that 20:34:38 mzar: very strange bsd are famous for their reliability with older and oldest hw :) 20:35:00 I run OpenBSD and FreBSD on 12+ years old machines with extreme satisfaction 20:35:21 I have a Pentium IV with netbsd 10 too :) 21:05:20 yes, maybe you can install some older version 21:06:19 :( 23:02:11 funky 23:02:36 if I manually invoke xflock4, I get a lockscreen and things are great. If I let it lock naturally from closing laptop lid, it locks but won't draw anything over the screen 23:03:03 so I get to type my password and, with great paranoia, stare and make sure whatever was in focus isn't taking my password in 23:15:34 kevans: could be worse. a lot of linux lockscreens do this thing where if your screens turn off and you wake them up by typing your password, the application that was last in the foreground when the screen locked will take some of the input. 23:15:38 this happens to me on x11. it's not great. 23:15:42 for many reasons. 23:16:20 imagine locking your work desktop and the last thing in the foreground was a shell. someone can now potentially input shell commands if they're quick enough (or have a device that emulates a keyboard and sends quick keystrokes) 23:16:31 ew