02:14:17 for ports, is the "showconfig" target supposed to honor FLAVOR? i'm seeing behavior that suggests it doesn't, but i'm not sure if i'm doing it wrong. 04:28:15 this isn't good, eh: Inspecting system... sha256: ///usr/lib32/libasn1.a: Input/output error 04:38:10 dvl: I have a change to allow tunnels to be configured as transient that would help with something like this 04:38:47 openvpn would theoretically set TUNSTRANSIENT in some scenarios so that it just kind of goes away on last close 04:39:34 it's still in review, I don't remember where I left it off at 10:38:22 are there cases when bind(2) should return ENAMETOOLONG ("A component of a pathname exceeded 255 characters, or an entire path name exceeded 1023 characters.") instead of EINVAL ("The addrlen argument is not a valid length for the address family." 104 for unix domain sockets, so even less than the 255 for a path component)? why does that limit of 104 even exist? 11:05:14 before indefinite length arrays were introduced, sun_name was char [104]. that + the sa_family_t, plus padding padding 11:10:14 addrlen could be <= sizeof(sa_family_t) 11:44:34 hrmm i think ENAMETOOLONG comes from namei(9) 11:45:55 it would presumably catch cases that aren't caught as EINVAL in uipc_bindat 12:16:56 but sizeof(struct sockaddr_un) should be smaller than 255, so EINVAL would be returned before that by the check for to large numbers in soun->sun_len 12:49:30 Hrm, are the package clusters struggling with rust 1.85.0, or have they just not gotten around to it yet? It was added 24 Feb 2025 07:55:52 UTC. I have no idea how often the builds run, so pardon me if I'm being too impatient :) 12:55:08 Hello Friends, I am faced with an issue, I wanted to install RStudio but it conflicts with MariaDB 11.45 which I installed and need it. It saying it needs to remove MariaDB 11.4.5 and stay with MySQL 8 to install RStudio, I find it very odd. Is there way around to it, so that I can install RStudio without removing MariaDB11.4.5 Here is the output https://dpaste.com/9SUZR7CAE 13:00:19 You probably need to build RStudio yourself, and explicitly set your default mysql version in make.conf or wherever that is done these days 13:01:03 Hm, it's not immidiately obvious how RStudio depends on mysql or mariadb .. I would try to "pkg lock mariadb114-client" 13:01:10 e.g. DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=mysql=1011m to set mariadb 10.11 as default 13:01:43 Or yeah, build from ports with custom settings .. RStudio is marked as BROKEN though 13:04:05 Wow, it's both old and fraught with issues. Just look at the makefile.. 13:22:16 Ltning, dh thanks, I will leave RStudio for now thanks anyhow 13:24:00 <[tj]> rstudio is super common thing for students to use, we should probably have a good port 13:25:04 thanks [tj] Yes I like RStudio, but I also need MariaDB 11.4.5 which is LTS hence I do not wanna compromise that 13:25:27 I am installing R Commander for now and so far its installing okay 13:37:48 Ltning: some of the package builders are occupied with 13.5-RELEASE builds 13:38:10 according to https://www.freshports.org/lang/rust none of the architectures & branches have it 1.85.0 yet 13:40:28 R Commander which is R Library successfully installed ... Very Pleased 13:40:44 I must admit FreeBSD is better than Red Hat 13:42:14 Ltning: afaik the builders do a full rebuild about every two weeks and incremental rebuilds (which often take about two days) in between that in a loop, so it can easily take four days from commit to something showing up in the repos, but how long the incremental builds take depends on how much the commits in between affect and the builders are also used for expruns 13:42:26 I got pretty much all I need successfully installed and configured with minimal issues, these are Java OpenJDK21, Python3, R and R Commander, Apache2, PHP (have not configured yet), MariaDB, PostgreSQL, BSD even comes with pgAdmin client which is amazing, VS Code, Eclipse, NetBeans, Intellij 13:43:35 It would be nice if DBeaver (SQL Client), VokoScreen (Screen Cast Software), and RStudio (without MySQL conflict) can be ported 13:44:09 even Node.js latest version I got it installed with no issue 13:57:40 as far as I can see the conflict is because databases/soci depends on any version of mysql and mysql 8 is the default version in the ports tree (so that gets used there), you would have to build your own pkg repo with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=mysql=10.11m to solve that 13:58:49 nimaje: Ltning: historically the builders just `poudriere bulk -a` continuously more or less; they don't really purge what they have periodically, but /something/ will cause a nearly full rebuild every now and then based on dependency relationships 13:59:23 so it depends on where it's at on the current build cycle and what all has changed since the last one 13:59:49 with something like a rust bump, you may very well be rebuilding most of the ports tree (including some of the bigger ticket items like browsers) and that's going to take a while 14:02:00 nimaje, i am not a sysadmin 14:03:01 I can run RStudio in Debian, its no big deal 14:42:47 its same thing again mysql conflicts with mariadb 14:43:06 can we not remove mysql 8.0 to avoid conflict then 14:43:13 besides who needs mysql 8.0 14:43:40 i was trying to install korganizer and it says same thing, conflict with mariadb 14:59:58 as said, the default version for mysql is mysql 8 in the ports tree, so everything that uses mysql will use mysql 8, you could change that to mariadb 10.11 with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=mysql=10.11m but for that you would need to build your own pkg repo, or maybe you can argue on bugs.freebsd.org, that the default version should be changed 15:04:26 nimaje, way over my head but I understand, its all good, those packages like korganizer, RStudio I can always run in Debian 15:04:46 but FreeBSD is really good for my Java Web Application purpose 15:05:12 My aim is to utilize FreeBSD as server 15:05:21 java, javascript server 15:10:26 Bushmaster: there's always running software in a jail when it has conflicts. Jails are the main reason I came to FreeBSD. I stayed for the ZFS (and the community) 15:12:09 scoobybejesus, thanks, sorry I am not sysadmin, its little too much to understand 15:12:21 but thanks for being communicative 15:20:38 who |more 15:33:19 scoobybejesus: are you satisfied with the jails ? what about ZFS and community ? 15:46:16 Yeah, I would never have learned what I know now without jails. I can experiment and experiment, document what I'm doing as I go, and then repeat from the top to make sure all my instructions and notes are current and explain everything to my liking. I can quickly iterate at home on a good box, and then deploy to a slower VPS when i have the process perfect. Jails are amazing. And thin jails over ZFS are doubly amazing 15:46:46 And the community has always been helpful when i've gotten stuck, even when my stuff isn't always Freebsd-specific, though i try to keep on topic 15:57:55 root@yuki:~ # service apache24 status 15:57:56 apache24 is running as pid 20501. 15:57:56 root@yuki:~ # 15:58:20 and in browser localhost says It Works 15:58:26 but no page 15:58:37 i thought there is default page 16:19:03 can i redirect syslog message somewhere to ttyv6? so it does not pollute tty's i use ( usually from 0 to 2 ) 16:40:26 angry_vincent: i think you could change the entry in syslog.conf, to be /dev/ttyv6 instead of /dev/console, if that's what yo mean 16:57:59 Yes 16:58:01 thx 19:26:43 quick pkg question... 19:27:07 you cna set configure options with pkg? 19:27:26 like `pkg -o=..`? 19:27:41 no, there are flavours thouh, preconfigured packages 19:27:55 oh flavored... ok... ty mzar 19:28:07 you can configure options building package from ports on your own 19:28:44 yup... was tring to avoid that since i dont have ports tree on this box.. 19:28:54 and it's f'g cargo build 19:32:27 are default options not fulfilling your needs gman999 ? 19:34:31 no... i just pinged the maintainer... 19:34:36 since should likely be the default 19:34:41 this is for security/arti 19:34:46 the Rust version of tor 19:35:12 it's still experimental stage.. 19:35:21 and prob a long time before production 19:35:35 OK 19:36:00 ty mzar. 19:37:25 gman999: there are no options to configure in this port 19:38:23 i see that from the Makefile... but there are with the source code apparently 19:47:04 OK, you can submit patch to the port, if you want to improve it 19:56:24 the only rust diff i'll ever send will be to convert it to C or delete it. 19:56:45 i can't even determine the source to see the configure options! 19:57:41 so what's the issue ? 19:58:27 sorry for the noise. i maintain a bucnh of openbsd ports and have hacked on freebsd ports for a long time. the only issue is the frustration of dealing with cargo/rust. 19:59:21 no worries, frustration is never issue, keep smiling and install some rust packages 20:43:38 This is _not_ an attempt to throw shade -- just switched over from netbsd/ffs to freebsd/zfs and I'm seeing significantly improved performance on identical hardware. 20:43:53 :clapping hands: 20:44:21 * Afterglow hands wavefunction a beer 21:05:01 * scoobybejesus sees wavefunction collapse from too much beer 21:05:59 That... that sounds about right, yeah 22:51:38 d