01:16:32 <voy4g3r2> haha.. nginx was NOT running on poudriere system, that was causing the error
01:26:10 <ek> voy4g3r2: The Nginx service on the host!?
01:26:14 <ek> Cobra Kai!
01:26:25 * ek checks to see if there's a new season
01:57:00 <jpb> anyone running xen dom0 on 14.2?  or any 14?
02:10:34 <voy4g3r2> ek: yes there is a new season.. just closed it out
02:10:49 <voy4g3r2> ek: running on the poudriere host, in a jail
03:09:55 <johnm> have yet to watch any of the cobra kai show
03:10:20 <johnm> voy4g3r2: +1 for using a jail, they are awesome
03:10:28 <johnm> freebsd++
04:54:41 <demido> for running bhyve vms on ufs are nocache and direct good disk options to use? or better to skip those and use virtio-blk driver?
05:51:53 <demido> oh wait i can use them both with virtio-blk nice
11:02:32 <levitating> I am using blacklistd for SSH with default config
11:02:39 <levitating> for some reason some IPs appear whitelisted
11:02:57 <levitating> for instance from just last night
11:03:03 <levitating> blacklistctl dump -a shows
11:03:04 <levitating>  134.209.120.69/32:22	OK	169/3	2025/02/16 09:37:16
11:07:36 <levitating> oh that is a actually a blocked entry!
11:07:44 <levitating> crazy that is somehow reached 169 nfails
11:07:48 <levitating> I also have one with 30 nfails
16:52:10 <mzar> levitating_: see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=236312
16:53:44 <levitating_> thanks mzar, the part about BAD_USER I was already tracking, this was resolved upstream
16:54:54 <mzar> yes, we are working on this, see also https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/blacklistd-and-sshd-not-acting-immediately-according-to-logs.82523/
16:57:22 <levitating> Yes I replied to that, second to last reply :)
16:57:49 <levitating> I am on 14.2 so I am sure it'll be a while before I can see the change, unless I backport it myself
16:58:25 <levitating> though blacklisting some users like "admin" should also help
16:58:46 <mzar> it has never been implemented
16:59:55 <levitating> ah, that was just something kurt manually patched into it? interesting
17:00:11 <mzar> yes
17:14:19 <cybercrypto> Hey there... is this oracle zfs license - impacting by any chance FreeBSD zfs? (I guess FreeBSD is using openzfs).
17:15:17 <cybercrypto> Is openzfs linked/related to oracle anyhow?
17:16:30 <ivy> cybercrypto: all versions of ZFS are based on the Solaris ZFS code released by Sun under the CDDL, that copyright is now owned by Oracle
17:28:40 <tsoome> The license itself is CDDL. The original code was signed by Sun (now Oracle), meanwhile, there are a lot of updates and changes, which are done by other entities and marked accordingly. This is pretty much the same by any other [free/open] license, you can find respective notes in FreeBSD code as well.
17:51:16 <cybercrypto> So why openzfs cannot be merged into linux-kernel (they clain it is license conflicts)  and we have (btw:one of the most powerfull) zfs implementations built in FreeBSD? Is this going to conflict somewhere/sometime? like Oracle raising issues?
17:58:06 <cybercrypto> even this company (ixsystems) is moving away from bsd... this is concerning both due to the 'oracle issues' and also due to that zfsol is baby software compared to builtin zfs in bsd.  really complex and messy.. wondering.
18:00:25 <tsoome> because of GPL;)
18:01:17 <tsoome> and freebsd switched to OpenZFS some time ago.
18:02:30 <cybercrypto> tsoome: does it mean that openzfs is 1000% free from oracle?
18:04:10 <tsoome> thats nonsense claim. there is no such thing as 1000% and you can not revoke someone from their contribution.
18:05:43 <cybercrypto> my typo, i meant 100%. And I kind refering to openzfs also be based on original solaris zfs.
18:06:01 <tsoome> yes, of course it is.
18:06:17 <tsoome> so what?
18:06:32 <ivy> theoretically, Oracle could make some sort of claim that the original license grant under the CDDL is invalid, but at this point that seems unlikely... how long has it been now, 15 years?
18:08:19 <tsoome> You may want to speak with license lawyers about what can or can not be done - such discussion here is rather pointless.
18:08:38 <cybercrypto> ivy: and tsoome: fully agree, thanks.
18:10:28 <tsoome> But, you can also play with idea that Oracle (or any other corporation) might acquire say, ixsystems, and therefore will become owner of their copyrighted material;)
18:11:53 <tsoome> but the fight about what may or may not be in linux kernel is just about fight between GPL and free world.
18:14:12 <cybercrypto> tsoome: good point
22:38:22 <demido> i dont have swap. so if my free mem gets to 0 will inact be used before crashing?
23:08:27 <rtprio> how much ram do you have
23:32:39 <demido> 48G
23:32:45 <demido> 37G inact
23:32:54 <demido> 2.7G free
23:33:08 <demido> 21M laundry fwiw
23:35:47 <rtprio> what's the system doing?
23:35:55 <demido> hosting a few vms, nothing else
23:36:02 <demido> each vm is also given 48G of wired ram
23:36:09 <demido> (box has 192GB total ram)