01:58:27 hi friends, I have a problem. I'm on freebsd 14.1 and I'd likt to upgrade to 14.2 but the kernel module of virtualbox is not compatible with 14.2 as you read in the install message here: 01:58:32 https://www.freshports.org/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod#:~:text=To%20avoid%20crashes%20due%20to%20kernel%20incompatibility%2C%20this%20module%20will%20only%0Aload%20on%20FreeBSD%2014.1%20kernels. 01:59:08 how do I knwo when the new kernel module will be availaible in the package system ? 01:59:27 I don't want use the ports 02:16:11 mystic: The issue seems to be in relation to https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=219913 , this bug is now patched (not fixed, but shouldn't be an issue if you have < 1024 threads). The package is indeed available in 14.2, if you are still uncertain about its reliability on 14.2 due to the message on the package description, then I would recommend submitting a bug ticket on the 02:16:13 bugzilla for clarification of 14.2 suitability (and potential update of package description). 02:16:32 Alternatively, there's other virtualisation options (e.g. bhyve) 02:23:40 varsis: thanks. 09:44:12 hi, how should i send this patch? https://pastebin.com/PSHNradV email? bugzilla? 09:46:09 bugzilla i guess 09:46:11 quickrr: 09:46:16 thanks 09:56:56 where would the mail go? 09:57:05 i guess that would work 12:11:07 hey there everyone i was transferring 22 gigs of data from a zpool of mine to an ufs bsd volume and when the transfer was about to finish(was at 17 gigs i noticed the transfer just froze up), then i checked zpool status and noticed an I/O error and did a zpool clear, but the command is taking too long and i notice that it keeps writing to a disk belonging to the zpool, what could be the issue and how should i go around resolving, also s 12:11:07 ince the action was a move action are the files i was transferring but wasn't transferred due to the weird I/O error gone now? 12:19:00 zpool status says 13 data errors, but i can't see them right now because the pool I/O is suspended 12:27:08 it's so weird though, i was just transferring files normally, and for the pool to get suspended like that isn't something called rock solid would do 13:06:49 pool will suspend the io when there is no redundancy for broken data block 13:07:29 this is done to avoid your data getting inconsistent (some blocks written and some not) 13:09:47 that depends on failmode setting as well 13:10:52 yep. 14:04:05 what's the more or less used tool nowadays to manage backups through snapshots/send/recv ? 14:04:31 I was an happy zrepl user but it has unresolved issues with FreeBSD 14 14:06:33 can't choose between sanoid/syncoid, zrep, zxfer, zfs-replicate, ... 14:11:32 tsoome: wdym by redundancy and how did broken data blocks got created while a normal file transfer, and why does it keep logging "pc ZFS[xxxxx]: pool I/O failure, zpool=MA error=6" continuosly to /var/log/messages and consuming so much CPU resources 14:11:42 ah they left 14:18:10 slowly introducing freebsd at work. only on vms thus far, but I'm sure I'll get them to go native at some point. 14:18:55 currently setting up a fancy little setup with geli and gmirror for backups. 14:19:50 I'm running FreeBSD at work for 15+ years .. :) 14:21:09 small infrastructure (~15 physical servers, 50+ jails), but FreeBSD is powering everything! 14:21:20 i started at this job less than a year ago. first time i'm not only doing development but also administration. one of my assigned tasks is making the company depend less on MS shit. 14:21:51 yeah, personally i've been running my infra on freebsd since something like '09 i think. and since a year or two later also on desktops/laptops. 14:23:07 Nice assigment 14:23:10 i got pretty fancy stuff going, at least for a single person. all disks (minus /boot) on all machines including the hetzner dedicated machine are geli-encrypted and on both servers, everything is mirrored with gmirror. 14:25:33 ludo_: yeah, but sadly i haven't found a proper replacement for teams yet. xmpp clients are slowly getting there, but last i tested with a coworker (~half a year back) it looked like it'll be at least another year before there's any chance of it actually working. 14:27:39 and i still have to see about deploying .net webshit on *nix; that part might actually be way harder on freebsd because the .net build system has a built-in docker target. tho my longer-term goal is getting them hooked on python for webstuff. :P 14:28:27 did you try thinkgs like matermost? matrix ? 14:28:45 we are running mattermost here with nextcloud 14:30:07 (although I would not recommend Nextcloud) 14:30:37 ludo_: hackerspace i helped found used mattermost for a while, but it never really kicked off. also doesn't offer video conferencing, at last last i saw it. 14:31:07 yeah, nextcloud can probably even do video conferencing, but i'm not advocating getting rid of MS shit and then deploying PHP ^^ 14:31:31 my first two jobs were php, i made an active decision to cut it out of my life :P 14:31:42 The problem with Nextcloud is that it's slow as hell 14:32:42 matrix does messageing + video cofrecing 14:32:45 yeah, also sounds like one of the biggest attack surfaces of any webthing. our main "server" is currently some small vm. neither gonna use zfs nor nextcloud on that sorta setup. :P 14:33:55 ludo_: i don't trust matrix' security and don't want to give false impressions of security. 14:34:27 was just giving ideas, as I don't like matrix either 14:38:11 aye. didn't mean this as any sort of attack in case it came over like that.^^ 14:43:33 mhhh, mattermost seems to have video conferencing now… it may not be decentralized or e2e, but this might be an actual replacement for teams by now. thanks for the reminder ludo_, wouldn't have thought of checking it again. 14:43:53 yw 14:50:59 hah mattermost is open 14:51:10 i never looked it 14:53:24 ketas: yeah, looks like a freemium model with FOSS base like grafana. 14:54:47 always a wee a bit suspect, but something something ideal world. 14:56:01 like nginx, asterisk, etc? 14:56:22 it could fuck up too 14:56:34 that model 15:01:50 yeah, it introduces a new balance: community vs. profit. many projects seem to strike the balance pretty well, but we regularly see companies abusing their position, too. 15:10:36 it gets particularly cursed when features and sometimes security patches become premium option 15:11:28 instead of just support 15:40:03 ketas: yeah, that's the sort of situation where a community fork is in order. 16:18:56 how much of a requirement is overwriting the entire .eli with dd actually? with data auth, i expect without it i'll see a bunch of "failed to authenticate", but things should still work and be rectifiable later by writing files on an existing fs, correct? 16:29:34 mage: fwiw, i like/use sanoid/syncoid. sanoid does regular snapshots, and i regularly pull them w/ syncoid via cronjobs. doesn't take long to get the hang of 17:43:12 how do i explicitly register an efi bootloader again? it was with one of the efi* tools IIRC… 17:46:50 oh, nevermind that. looks like this thing doesn't support efi… o_O 18:04:32 mhh, bios bootloader installed with gpart bootcode does nothing but spam "Loaded only 545k". i made the partition for it small (1M) so I retried and set it up as 128M, but still get the same behavior. any ideas? 18:06:11 (this is a vm running on windows+hyperv). trying the efi route just gave me a black screen, efibootmgr essentially claims efi isn't supported (tho gpart shows whatever "efimedia" is… 18:06:52 phryk: you have to troubleshoot and fix it 18:08:16 mzar: no, really? :P 18:09:01 error message isn't very specific tho and i never had similar problems before. looked into hyperv options if efi is like an option you can enable, but found no such thing. 18:31:35 oh, i have a very dumb idea. 18:33:55 SONOFA 18:34:16 it works after i made the gptboot partition even smaller than before. 18:35:22 my assumption is that the thing tries to load the entire partition into memory but has a "sane" limitation for that to 545k. made the partition 512k and i get beastie 18:49:41 phryk: thanks for solving, of course freebsd-boot partition should not exceed 512k 20:26:06 there must be a way to break hw.snd.default_unit up so you can have speakers on one device active, and a mic on another. 21:48:58 Ober: there is 21:49:34 Ober: audio/virtual_oss 22:44:27 Hey there! I'm trying to run jdupes on large datasets, but on occasion the process stops. Currently when I use PS, it shows it in status "D+" 22:44:36 I've found in most cases that I can resume the copy operation that I've suspended in the background for a short while, and the fdupes process will resume. 22:44:45 All I can figure is that the disks are going into a power save mode, but I've never set any modes that I can remember (base install goes back over a decade, but is up to 14.2R) 22:46:55 top shoes the process status as "range" 23:44:00 wipt: yeah, sounds like the processing is waiting on I/O - so as you mentioned, something to do with either the disk going to sleep for some reason, or I/O is maxed out 23:47:55 wipt: you can check the disk status (and more) with camcontrol --> https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=camcontrol&sektion=8&manpath=freebsd-release-ports