00:06:47 <CrtxReavr> Which package contains perl module IPC::Run ?
00:13:34 <rtprio> probably devel/p5-IPC-Run
00:18:54 <CrtxReavr> Thanks - found it in the ports tree with a 'make search'
00:49:25 <CrtxReavr> I need some grep help. . . trying to follow instructions with: grep -Po '(?<=,)[a-f0-9]{64}\s*$'
00:49:33 <CrtxReavr> Which I presume is Gnuish. ..
01:05:36 <ek> CrtxReavr: Maybe you're looking for -E or -e instead of -P since that is definitely GNU-ish.
01:05:54 <ek> The -o should be fine, though.
01:06:01 <mvee> are you trying to extract hashes or something else?
01:06:35 * CrtxReavr found pcre2grep in ports.
01:07:00 <ek> That'll also due.
10:34:14 <pjs_> Any issues with upgrading from 12.2 directly to 14.2? I think I've done 2 versions before without issues but figured I'd ask before I start lol
10:45:28 <vkarlsen> Should be fine, I've skipped versions several times. But pay attention to bootcode before upgrading your zfs pool (if applicable)
10:46:03 <pjs_> gotcha, thanks!
11:58:55 <clapont> hi, everyone! I wish you a merry Happy Christmas! :-)
13:38:26 <dansa> What's the relationship between CUPS and /etc/printcap?  Should I set up my Brother HL-L2360DW in /etc/printcap or should I ignore it completely and set it up with CUPS?
13:40:41 <dansa> The handbook suggests I could use /etc/printcap without CUPS.  So it seems there's the native /etc/printcap and there are others such as CUPS.
13:41:00 <dansa> Any recommendations?  I'm running the latest FreeBSD and my printer is the Brother above.
13:41:07 <dansa> It's a network printer.
13:57:22 <yamada> would you run freebsd preferable on lattepanda sigma or lattepanda 3 delta
14:44:49 <Nicholaus04> Howdy, folks!
14:47:35 <Nicholaus04> And yes, i'm actually connected to libera.chat, using Unreal Tournament 99's IRC client, running on a Debian chroot, that's running via Linuxulator.
14:47:53 <Nicholaus04> It's as weird(And stupid) as your gonna get.
14:48:32 <jauntyd> :)
14:48:47 <jauntyd> it works!
14:48:57 <Nicholaus04> Yep!
14:49:45 <jauntyd> refreshing to see someone doing something different, imo
14:51:06 <Nicholaus04> Also, the version of Debian that the chroot is based on is Bookworm.
14:52:48 <Nicholaus04> Though for extra stupid points, i might as well try connecting to Team17's WormNET IRC via UT99's IRC.
14:53:22 <Nicholaus04> Though, the problem is UT99's IRC doesn't support supplying a PASS (Which WormNET needs), so i can't connect.
15:11:33 <dansa> I see my lpr is actually a CPUS program.  It tries to talk to the CUPS daemon.  It doesn't even read /etc/printcap.  So it seems to me that the old lpr is gone.  Or was it gone because I installed CUPS if I did?  Could I remove CUPS?  I tried and it said it would remove emacs and firefox, but I need these.
15:11:55 <dansa> Any advice?
15:13:35 <Nicholaus04> It's mostly because firefox needs it for printing support.
15:14:11 <Nicholaus04> If it was removed, the libraries for such support would be gone, (Supposedly) borking firefox.
15:14:31 <Nicholaus04> AKA: No soap. :<
15:16:18 <dansa> What crossed my mind is that perhaps if I remove CUPS, I would get back the older lpr.  But I've no idea.  I'm just guessing and speculating.
15:16:34 <dansa> I have to decide whether I try to set things up for CUPS or go some older method.
15:16:45 <dansa>  /go for/
15:22:14 <vdamewood> dansa: What do you get from `which lpr` with CUPS installed?
15:44:50 <dansa> vdamewood: I get /usr/local/bin/lpr
15:45:28 <vdamewood> dansa: Does /usr/bin/lpr exist?
15:45:41 <dansa> It does!
15:45:51 <dansa> Looks like you figured it out!
15:46:27 <dansa> So, yeah, I'm likely using the wrong one.
15:48:19 <dansa> Thanks!  I'm now able to print text just fine.
15:52:29 <jemius> What the manual calls "slices" is effecitvely a way to create single pool from several hard drives, isn't it? I mean, without mirror features or RAID
15:52:30 <jemius> https://linux.die.net/man/8/zpool
16:03:41 <vdamewood> jemius: No. A slice is a subdivision of a fixed drive. Basically it's what everyone else calls a partition.
16:04:17 <vdamewood> In the BSD world, disks can be divided into slices, and slices can be divided into partiions.
16:08:24 <jemius> vdamewood, alright. So what do I want if I just want to "merge" two disks for a ZFS pool, without redundancy?
16:12:14 <CrtxReavr> jemius, just throwing your discs in the trash would be less work.
16:30:12 <dansa> :)
16:35:57 <dansa> Reading the manual of enscript (from enscript-a4) I understand that it supports lots of encoding but not UTF-8, sadly.
16:37:43 <vdamewood> jemius: I have no  Idea. I don't use ZFS or multiple disks.
16:39:02 <uskerine> Hi, I just changed the window manager to mwm so I launch the system with startx. However I noticed that by default the X server is not listening on port 6000. I want that as I redirect X11 applications in another LAN server. Where/How shall I touch?
16:40:10 <uskerine> (I already checked the Handbook without success)
17:04:37 <uskerine> hi again, not sure if anyone answered the question on Xorg listening on tcp
17:04:43 <uskerine> if not, at least, where in the forum shall I post?
17:11:21 <CrtxReavr> uskerine, have you indeed confirmed that your X server isn't listening, or is your sshd not configured to allow X11 tunneling?  Or maybe your client not configured to do it?
17:12:34 <uskerine> My X server is not listening, checked with netstat -an | grep LISTEN. Why sshd is involved here? I do not want to involve sshd, it is the old plain good TCP X11 forwarding
17:13:09 <uskerine> everything was working before but I was using CDE, I do not recall what I touch (that uses dtlogin though)
17:13:20 <uskerine> so I just need where to find the configuration file
17:14:38 <spmzt> Hi, I want to update a patch for a revision in reviews.freebsd.org. but when I choose to update diff, It only allow me to create new revision. What should I do?
17:17:53 <uskerine> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/which-file-configures-xorg-to-listen-on-tcp-port-6000.96221/
17:30:26 <CrtxReavr> uskerine, you really don't want ot use "old plain good TCP X11 forwarding."
17:30:31 <CrtxReavr> Would you use telnet?
17:30:52 <uskerine> rlogin
17:31:05 <CrtxReavr> You see, that's exactly my point. .
17:31:09 <uskerine> Yes I do want to use that, it is a LAN environment and it is convenient
17:31:58 <CrtxReavr> ssh was actually designed from the start as a drop-in replacment for rlogin. . . the orignal name of the binary is 'slogin' and it uses most of the same syntax. . . I'll bet you'll find it's still hard-linked to that name of your FreeBSD installs.
17:33:02 <uskerine> I am rebooting to do a test
17:34:04 <CrtxReavr> https://bpa.st/2P3Q
17:34:29 <uskerine> so I modified /usr/local/bin/startx to include -listen tcp as defaultserverargs, but I am wondering if that is the expected way to do it when you want to specify server arguments
17:34:50 <uskerine> I guess it is not, since that shall be modified once you upgrade the system ?
17:35:11 <CrtxReavr> BTW, if you're finding the enryption overhead of tunneling X11 over ssh is impactful, then you can try adding a -C to your ssh command to enable compression.
17:35:43 <uskerine> Thanks CrtxReavr that is an interesting trivia on ssh history. I know ssh but in LAN environment rlogin and plain DISPLAY forwarding is easier to me
17:36:41 <uskerine> Even if you do not find the question appropiate (I do not see why, but anyway), the question stands in its general form. How in FreeBSD 14 do you specify a default argument when launching Xorg, which file shall be modified?
17:37:54 <CrtxReavr> Should be a setting in Xorg. . . I feel like it used to be turned on by default, at least for local host.
17:37:57 <uskerine> defaultserverargs="-listen tcp"
17:38:27 <uskerine> I modified that line to /usr/local/bin/startx, but modifying a file in /usr/local/bin does not seem right
17:38:53 <uskerine> now it works, but I guess if the package containing that file is updated, my change will be lost
17:40:09 <CrtxReavr> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/where-to-put-listen-tcp.93981/
17:42:24 <uskerine> I will try that thanks
17:42:46 <CrtxReavr> Look for an option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
17:42:58 <CrtxReavr> Been a while since I had a FreeBSD workstation.
17:42:58 <uskerine> I actually tried before but with X not Xorg and I got a weird long time to launch
17:43:11 <uskerine> I am going to try now
17:43:33 <uskerine> I actually want this to launch X programs from jails in a server located in the same room
17:43:34 <CrtxReavr> If it works, and is just delayed, then I'd look at DNS issues.
17:43:41 <uskerine> that is why rlogin is easier than sshd
17:44:09 <CrtxReavr> Though. . . I would still strongly advise against NOT tunneling X11 over ssh. . . you should always defend in-depth.
17:44:32 <uskerine> well, it is me and my cat here. Not that much to defend
17:45:19 <CrtxReavr> Hey. . . you do you. . . that attitude keeps me in a job, so thanks!
17:46:42 <uskerine> same weird 10 seconds delay, that does not happen when modifying the startx directly
17:46:56 <uskerine> anyway I prefer that , I keep the workstation session opened for days
17:47:37 <CrtxReavr> BTW, to enable your X11 server for use on a workstation, look at the ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys
17:48:19 <CrtxReavr> Typing 'startx' is for losers.  If you're going to use X, then use X.
17:51:03 <uskerine> you are expected to put a login manager there
17:51:19 <CrtxReavr> Indeed.
17:52:04 <CrtxReavr> I think Xorg installs xdm by default. . . you can also modify it to use whatever login manager your chosen DE includes.
17:57:51 <CrtxReavr> Looks like xdm is now installed by ports/x11/xdm
18:33:50 <uskerine> exit
23:22:19 <zip> my machine is running a load average of 0.00, sitting there toasty warm, occasionally having network cutouts. I've been trying to get it to do some funky ipv6 routing and enabling a couple jails, but turning everything back off doesn't seem to fix things. Does anyone have any suggestions for next debugging steps?
23:22:28 <zip> Nothing seems to show up on a serial terminal for either iftop or top