03:54:26 Stupid question. 03:54:29 Why does devel/rust have so much C++ code? 04:09:03 CrtxReavr: it's built upon llvm? 04:13:19 Then what's it bootstrapping rust for then? 04:14:33 The Rust compiler ("devel/rust") contains a significant amount of C++ code primarily because the underlying infrastructure it uses, like the LLVM compiler backend, is written in C++. This allows Rust to leverage the existing optimizations and capabilities of C++ while still providing its own unique syntax and memory safety features at the language level. 05:06:37 CrtxReavr: they haven't rewritten it all in rust yet 05:46:58 Coming soon: OpenRustDK 10:45:05 . 13:33:45 CrtxReavr: llvm is a bit unstable across versions, so i believe rust bundles its own llvm because of that reason. even if you had llvm available already, rust will build its own and statically link it into rustc (you can check via ldd /usr/local/bin/rustc) 13:55:10 So, I have been away for 10 years and just got back at installing freebsd and I like to remember I could use make search name= in /usr/ports but I get make dont know how to make search, is there a new way of doing this? 13:57:52 i figured it out, im just rusty 14:52:50 Hello, i have been trying to configure networking on some box at $random_provider. configuring /etc/rc.conf with the parameters provided by their support do not seem to work. also, when running `netstat -rn` in order to print routes, i can see: `default GW_IP UGS vtnet0` (which seems fine, i guess?), but when trying to `ping 1.1.1.1` , i get the answer "ping: sendto: No route to host". 14:52:56 any idea how to debug this ? 14:53:15 i cant even ping the gateway, for what its worth 14:53:36 but i can ping myself with the public ip 14:54:09 (and pf is disabled) 14:54:52 rofl, ok, now i can see the support rebooting the machine. I guess they're doing some stuff on their end... 15:17:38 sorry for the noise, it was indeed something on their end :/ 16:15:22 ah damn I just noticed burn-in on the FreeBSD laptop I leave on and closed 24/7. Does FreeBSD not turn off the screen when the lid is closed? 16:22:32 console or xorg? 16:25:12 dlms: psearch in ports is super handy, needs running `make fetchindex` in /usr/ports tho. welcome back :D 16:27:29 leah2: console 16:27:47 zwr: typically not, you need to tell your laptop what to do on closing. 16:28:05 perhaps loading acpi_video can help 16:28:22 zwr I don't know whether this works for console (I will try it now ;) but I have these in sysctl.conf for my i915 laptop 16:28:43 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yDqKEQCq/laptop_suspend_resume 16:29:24 i assume they want to keep it running tho 16:32:15 leah2: aah good point yes 16:33:24 zwr: hum https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=233356 16:34:02 perhaps downgrading to the sc console helps 16:37:08 Hey 16:37:09 This is my first time installing freeBSD, so I'm not 100% sure if I’ve missed something obvious. 16:37:09 I’m trying to get X11 desktop working on my system. I have a rs880M (mobility radeon HD 4225/4250), and after installing `drm-kmod`, I tried loading `radeonkms`, but all I got was a flicker followed by a completely blank screen. Dmesg did report it  as successfully loaded, only glaring possible issue being  `fbd0: not attached to vt(4) console: 16:37:10 another device has precedence (err=17)`. 16:37:10 So I've now switched to drm-515-kmod which seems to work fine. Any advice or should I just roll with this for now? 16:37:11 thnx :) 16:37:33 going to try kern.vty=sc in /boot/loader.conf 16:42:47 Now that just booted to a blank screen, at least I have SSH access to fix it 16:49:52 I started xdm and closed the lid almost completely and that does turn off the screen. so I think I'll just make xdm start on boot 16:57:56 yeah 16:58:03 x should do dpms stuff 17:20:23 hi all, I'm currently browsing https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk to get a new home for my raidz1 (4 disks). It asks about RAID cards, for which I'd be tempted to just say "no thanks" ; but then it also says there won't be any SATA/SAS cables, and that sounds like a problem. Given that I already have 4 disks with a functional zpool on them, whan happens if I connect them to an H330/H730/H730p 17:20:25 card?.. Currently leaning towards an R530 or R730 chassis with 8 x 3.5"/2.5" spots.. 21:30:41 Howdy, folks! 22:20:51 you could always reflash it and use it with zfs 22:21:56 is freebsd better than arch? 22:21:57 xd 22:22:34 ximon: better how ? 22:22:53 HER so it is worseß 22:22:54 ? 22:23:05 ximon: depends really.. if you want to use something that only runs on arch... you wond be able to use windows or bsd to run it... 22:23:30 if you want to play all the latest games, windows is probably the best choice 22:23:41 so it really depends 22:24:40 ximon: if you want something thats really practical and usually works hassle free, go for ubuntu or similar 22:25:54 ximon: only you can decide if its best or worse for your/company use case.. 22:26:21 ximon: but in the end, its always the same... whatever floats your boat 22:28:55 ximon: its like glasses of watter.. one 200ml, another 500ml, another recycable, another plastic... which is better ? i have no idea... but you can drink water with any of them 23:07:22 Anyone know why I'm getting this everywhere when using pkg? 23:07:22 pkg: getgrnam_r(wheel): No error: 0 23:15:43 Is there a reason why window urgency on X11 doesn't work for me? 23:17:57 In other words, normally on some WMs on X11, a window being flagged as urgent would cause something to happen. (I.E: i3 would flash the associated workspace button on the status bar). 23:18:19 But for some reason, it doesn't work. 23:18:57 Any reason why? 23:32:51 Well, i figured out that window urgency works on my X11 setup, but i still don't know why WINE/Proton doesn't set the WindowUrgent flag on a window that called FlashWindow.