01:11:40 Howdy, folks! 01:13:53 I'm actually using ircii this time. 01:31:38 Hello, nicholaus04. 01:31:50 IrcII isn't so bad. 01:37:42 do any of you use pidgin for xmpp? if so do you know if i can just compile plugins from linux source and have them run? 01:38:06 i just realised that the xmpp part doesnt matter much 04:38:41 if there is a man page on-line for a particular application for freebsd, does that mean the application exists? Ex: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=amd&sektion=8&manpath=freebsd-release-ports 04:42:19 v 12:42:33 CrtxReavr: the acpi code in question is tracing the error messag I mentioned roughly every ten seconds so it keeps getting executed. I don't think that's pre-kernel. Were you referring to something else? 15:29:14 Anybody here know anything about DisplayLink drivers (udl)? 16:15:37 kpel, I mean it's a flag that needs to be set at kernel boot time. . . not something you can change without rebooting. 18:06:13 Hi guys! I am trying to upgrade from 13.2 to 14.1 using freebsd-update. After rebooting, I get a LUA error: "LUA ERROR: /boot/lua/core.lua:68: attempt to concatenate a nil value (field 'lua_path')" and "can't load 'kernel'" 18:06:40 However, if I just type "boot" it does boot into 14.1 18:11:11 Full error here: https://ibb.co/3fKcVgk 18:11:22 might wanna read the release notes, errata, and other fun things to see if there is a listed work-a-round or fix for that 18:12:44 what happens when you move core.lua to core.lua.OLD and reboot? 18:13:08 I find it odd that it is looking for a lua scripting language bit during the initial boot process anyway 18:16:52 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/problem-upgrading-from-13-3-release-to-14-1-release-lua-error-upon-booting-kernel.93737/ 18:19:13 sjk: that covers similar, and might be your fix 18:19:30 sponix2ipfw: yeah, I found that thread too. I tried copying /boot/loader.efi over, but then when I rebooted I was back in 13.2, lol! 18:20:16 well, it is much to my surprise that online docs tell me that lua is used in the FreeBSD final boot stages 18:20:32 lua is probably more "stable" than python though 18:21:29 But I had done a cp BOOTX64.efi{,.old} before hand, so I could just revert back 18:22:47 https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/problem-upgrading-from-13-3-release-to-14-1-release-lua-error-upon-booting-kernel.93737/post-658163 18:22:56 I would look into the code mod in that specific bit 18:23:10 seems core.lua needed a couple of lines added back into it 18:23:48 hrm 18:25:38 I'm NEW to FreeBSD though, and have never done a upgrade from one major release to another 18:26:13 I think there is some sort of "merge' process to be done on config files though 18:44:51 sjk: any luck? 18:50:12 yes! I tried copying /boot/loader.efi over to the efi partition's efi/freebsd/ directory instead, and that actually worked :D 19:11:07 good evening, I wondering if someone has got FreeBSD to work on EdgeRouter X ? :) 22:09:13 so comparing linux and freebsd uses memory when it's free instead of swap, but linux is starting to use swap before ram is used up. literally like half free and it's already using GB of swap lol wtf how did linux beat freebsd ffs 22:10:30 linux also by default overcommits memory so 🤷 22:12:21 what's that mean overcommit memory? 22:14:00 it means you can allocate more than you have 22:14:25 until oomkiller comes by and decides that you cannot 22:16:47 such feces 22:17:05 maybe that's why it's mem mgmt subsystem is so eager to swap, it's a bandaid 22:17:34 don't use windows server for serious stuff ok, but use linux? how did that happen. freebsd 5's problems? 22:18:07 i'm not certain what the point is that you're trying to make 22:19:04 sjk: glad to hear you got it working 23:53:21 l00py: that's vm.swappiness at work 23:56:45 Pushing untouched stale memory pages to swap aggressively is a good thing because it makes ram available for actual use by something that needs it. If it can do this ahead of time during otherwise idle system time then it is immediately available in the future when needed. 23:57:22 yeah. And FreeBSD overcommits too by default 23:58:26 uh, by default? you sure about that? 23:58:36 That's actually a weak point for FreeBSD. In Linux one can disable overcommit (I do) but on FreeBSD there this apparently can't be fully done. 23:58:53 rtprio, Pretty sure. Yes. And no way to disable it AFAIK.